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20:59, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Southcoastdeaffc (19:11, 2 April 2022)
Hi, am new here what to do --Southcoastdeaffc (talk) 19:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello, i note you asked this question three days ago, I haven’t been available for a while now, so please when ever you ask me a question and I don’t reply that very day please go straight to the WP:TEAHOUSE and ask the question there. Alright, about your question, you see, what you want to do is do a self analysis, what brought you here? Why do you want to become an editor? What topic areas interests you? The first two questions are rhetorical and as for the third, you may or may not share with me but insofar as you have an answer to all three then navigating to the relevant topic areas and editing there wouldn’t be a problem, the idea is for you to start small, for example; correcting grammatical errors, spelling errors and easy endeavors like that. Also, please see WP:GETTINGSTARTED & WP:TUTORIAL, you should have read both before anything else. Furthermore, testing your editing skills before editing (any) live article in any capacity is a great idea. Please see WP:SANDBOX, that is basically a place to test your editing skills. Check out WP:5P too & that is pretty much how you start learning. It’s simple, please keep asking questions as much as you like until you are satisfied. Celestina007 (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Prince Julius Adewale Adelusi-Adeluyi
Hi! If you have the time/inclination, mind an eye on this? It came to me via SuggestBot and I'm not clear whether it's UPE or just someone promoting their CV. I trimmed the worst and my gut is he's notable, but it's hard to make heads or tales of. Thanks either way. Star  Mississippi  20:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Not Celestina but whewwwww lawd, that article is total garbage. Notable or not, that's some serious spam sourced to blogspot. CUPIDICAE💕  20:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh and it's a copyvio. Fun. CUPIDICAE💕  20:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I giggled at whewwwww lawd, so much more polite than what I said when I saw it. Thanks to you,@Timtrent for flagging copyvio. I'll wield the rev del brush but wouldn't be opposed to it disappearing as a G11 as that was clear intent. Star   Mississippi  20:18, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Honestly it was a g11/g12 candidate. As it stands now it's basically an unsourced resume, so I say delete it. PS: the nice words I said were not the ones I said out loud ;) CUPIDICAE💕  20:20, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Star Mississippi was mainly @Praxidicae. I just nuked a paragraph! 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:21, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Depressing. This gentleman seems to satisfy WP:NPOLITICIAN, but it needs stubbing more. I may have a go in a minute 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:26, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * but I'm sure he was such a nice altar boy!
 * I swear we need character limit for new articles. There are many articles that need to into great depth, but bios are so rarely in that category. Misguided new editors cram every factoid they can in, which leads to more frustration. Thanks both, and Celestina for hosting this conversation Star   Mississippi  20:35, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I have reduced it, as has Praxidicae, to a stub. Regrettably the remaining references are dead links. All they have to do, all, is to assert and verify notability, then leave it alone 🇺🇦  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:39, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ,, , Sorry for the late response, of recent I have been more withdrawn than usual, alright straight to business, Star, In my honest opinion I think I agree with Praxidicae that the article could was a good candidate for G12/G11 and could have been disappeared under any or both of the aforementioned, and to answer your question Star, from my experience, article's as this are more of a CV/Resumé article than it is UPE, as it stands we have an article on mainspace that has 0 RS/ (or any source for that matter for WP:v purposes) which is just bad. An archetypical example of an article that shouldn’t be on mainspace. If Timtrent says they meet NPOL then someone can at least add a source that substantiates the veracity of the claim to the article. I believe I’m a tad bit too scatter brained (right now) to be the one to do it. Thanks Star for bringing this article to my notice, at least I have added it and the creator to my watchlist. Celestina007 (talk) 22:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm being pedantic. An article about something that is inherently notable is entitled to be here even with no references. I find that bizarre, but at the same time reasonable. Wikipedia is a paradox at times.
 * I will take no part in any deletion discussion if anyone chooses to nominate it to go. I have pruned it too hard to be seen as neutral. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:14, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , I respect that, Please let me clarify that I did not imply that since it was you who stated that it met NPOL hence it should be you who provides the relevant source, no, that was more of a general comment aimed at no one. Furthermore an unsourced biography or a biographical article sourced to dead links are very much discouraged, hypothetically speaking if an article on a supposed inherently notable individual(who is still alive) were to be created, and moved to mainspace and left without sources, irrespective of NEXIST or whatever a WP:blpprod may apply. Lest I digress old friend, a biographical article must be sourced at least WP:v thinks that. However I’m really indifferent about this, having said, if it were nominated for deletion I would !vote to delete, but I respect your work ethic nonetheless and I also appreciate what you & Praxi did. Celestina007 (talk) 22:48, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, as always, for your .02 on these matters. I understand what @Timtrent is saying. We're in a moment of but vague wave at policy at AfD of late which is annoying when something should be sourced, but is allowing to fly when it's not, because vague wave and sources exist because this position is notable. But that's a rant for another time.
 * Likewise grateful for the work done to solve the issue, which was a mess in mainspace that was not helpful to the reader. Star   Mississippi  01:28, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I never said I approved of the weird "notable items that are not sourced may have articles" concept, and Celestina, I truly never thought you suggested I ought to find a source. I imagine someone will send it for deletion at some point. I approve of that because it will allow the community to decide. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)


 * ,, indeed you both are apt. Allow me use this opportunity to once again thank you for attending to Nigeria related articles that appear disingenuous, I really do appreciate the vigilance, and do not take it for granted, the creation of dubious looking articles from the Nigerian space and editors engaging in less than ethical practices have been appropriately addressed and dealt with accordingly due to hard working editors like yourselves, , , , , , , , , , there are a lot more people that I’m not remembering right now, the truth is if it was I who did the (initial shouting) by (Pointing out a possible Nigerian organized syndicate engaging in a systematic creation of dubious Nigeria related articles & engaging in less than ethical practices such as sockpuppetry),  it was via the help of you individuals that my dream of obliterating any form of UPE practices in Nigeria is gradually becoming a reality and at large our collective dream of totally obliterating unethical practices not just in Nigeria related articles alone but from the entirety of the English Wikipedia, Truly to have served in this capacity with you lot has been my greatest achievement. Thank you, we are eliminating this sort of unethical editing, there is still work to be done but we are indeed seeing exponential progress. Celestina007 (talk) 13:45, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * There's an exception to "an article about something that is inherently notable is entitled to be here even with no references. I find that bizarre, but at the same time reasonable. Wikipedia is a paradox at times." -- this is a BLP, and needs a RS. But it does list two; however, at least for me, neither of them work.
 * But there's another exception--we don't accept spam for any subject, and no matter how notable; if it fails NOT ADVERTISING, it will be removed unless someone fixes it. The question then, faced with the original, is whether it is worth fixing. Beyond a certain amount of spam, I'll delete even in my favorite field, notable professors, unless they are actually famous. As a politician, he may qualify as notable, but certainly not as famous. There is of course no rule requiring any of us to fix an article, or decide not to fix an article. I've fixed  many and had others tell me I shouldn't have bothered,  and I've seen many fixed where I would have said the same.  It might be different if we had time to work on them all.   DGG ( talk ) 23:19, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , you said it best and indeed have summarized accurately the whole situation better than I could ever attempt to. Celestina007 (talk) 13:26, 7 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I also want to appreciate &, there are a group of editors who may not talk too much on mainspace but behind the scenes, they are toiling really hard to see the collaborative project is spam free, I want to appreciate a sister and friend  as well. Thank you all. Celestina007 (talk) 13:45, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Whip Gate - Incidents During the Biden Administration
There are now five Wikipedia articles that link to the articke above. Thanks for the heads-up

"Join Us At Anti UPE/Spam"
I'm intrigued by your userpage piece on anti UPE. I see the group on meta that you suggest editors could join as being a cross-wiki effort that requires involvement in sister projects. Is that correct? Do you think there should be an en.wiki specific home for anti-spam such as a wikiproject? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , that is indeed correct, anyone interested in dealing with cross wiki spam/undisclosed paid editing is welcome there. Hey CSC, could you please elaborate on the latter part of your message? I say this because we already have WP:WPSPAM. Celestina007 (talk) 14:23, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, I made a typo. I meant anti-UPE. You've written some good advice on your user page but I think it would benefit a wider audience on a WP: page as an essay or guidance in a wikiproject. I've reported UPE to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org but it is only accessible to checkusers and isn't read that often. I've reported it at COIN a few times before, but COIN seems powerless to do much unless an admin passes by who is interested in UPE. Maybe if there was a project, or even a category it would be easier to identify "Administrators willing to investigate UPE". Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:47, 7 April 2022 (UTC)


 * , you raise a valid point, and i understand you perfectly when you say COIN is powerless except an admin passes by & yes more often than  seems to be the only one taking action AFAIK in that aspect. I also understand you when you say sometimes sending a mail to the relevant parties isn’t always effective, I understand what you are saying first hand. You are also correct when you say a Wikiproject for UPE May be helpful you are indeed apt but I honestly do not even have the mental energy to start to develop such at the moment, i am mentally fatigued to be honest. Furthermore you are also apt about making my views to be more visible to the community I have written some essays and I have some about three essays saved and drafted on my electronic device but unfortunately I do not believe i have the mental will to create them into proper essays at the moment,  has indeed suggested  this very same ideas you are suggesting. You have raised very salient points but I really don’t have any mental energy for much, combining my day job plus Wikipedia of recent hasn’t been easy for me thus the much I can do like this write ups on my UP, I try to do so, you are really making a lot of sense as  has literally been the only admin who is an ARV for UPE, and your ideas can indeed reduce their workload, UPE isn’t an enjoyable place to work as it is mentally draining, sometime in the past I spoke to MER-C and he told me he hasn’t the energy or time to attend to UPE matters and I totally understood what they meant at that point in time, you have made great points but tbh I have grown a little weary, this is ephemeral but as of now I am mentally tired, that is the reason I appreciate,  & , they do not tire in their bid to tackle spam/upe. Lastly the part where you mention “Administrators willing to investigate UPE” that would be a great idea if administrators aren’t being stifled or pilloried, I feel bad for sysops at the moment, and I totally understand why many aren’t interested in UPE which is as controversial as they come, judging from antecedent, almost every admin who attempted to tackle UPE almost ended up de-sysoped & some outrightly de-sysoped, my thinking is an idea ,  and  gave me last year which is basically taking down all articles from possible dubious editors and in time this would frustrate them out of business, so far so good. Once again thank you for the bright ideas. Celestina007 (talk) 16:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Please take care of yourself and your mental health, Wikipedia will still be there when you have your energy back. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:01, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , that’s so kind of you, it’s not so much that querying or carrying out my duties is a problem in-fact as we speak I’m addressing two articles I believe may be disingenuous this & this what I was trying to say is I don’t have the will power for anything “big” right now but it doesn’t incapacitate not impede me from executing minor anti spam/UPE/COI work on mainspace, you know, just like I am handling the aforementioned sketchy looking articles. Celestina007 (talk) 21:48, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , I unfortunately have to say that I am indeed getting tired--and bored-- in my work to tackle spam. This is not what I became an admin to do; I became a admin to rescue articles that had been overlooked or inadequately written, and the admin function I expected to use the most was viewdeleted sand undelete. But I now delete about 1000 pages a year, and undelete only about 400--not counting the thousands of pages a year I look at, but delete by letting G13 remove them. I have been gradually restricting the subject range I will even look at--I now just do professors plus the few on medieval or ancient history. But even so I am increasingly falling behind. In an effort to keep the work to what I can handle, I no longer try to fix the questionable - if it's basically good enough I will pass the Draft and hope they get fixed at afd; if they need significant work, I will ignore them and let them get deleted until someday someone  will be prepared to do it properly.  One exception: If theres a paragraph or two of junk, i will remove it, to givei t a better chance., our hope to continue is in new people. The current ones likeme and even you can keepat it forever.  DGG ( talk ) 07:44, 8 April 2022 (UTC)


 * , I love that you mention this, we old heads are getting fatigued from combating spam, although mine is ephemeral and I can never be permanently tired of fighting spam as it utterly disgusts, motivates and reenergizes me, however our hope is in the newer editors, we are now at an impasse as I am yet to see a new generation editor with a knack for anti spam, furthermore this weakness you feel isn’t from combatting UPE alone (although combatting UPE is very stressful) but I believe it is editing in general, please read this it just goes to show how editing in general can tire one out. Celestina007 (talk) 15:07, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Domfarolino (02:53, 12 April 2022)
I just made my first edit. Does it not need to be reviewed? --Domfarolino (talk) 02:54, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello there, not quite, your first edit doesn’t necessarily need to be reviewed by anyone, however, reading a few of our policies and guidelines and practicing your edits in your own WP:SANDBOX are quite helpful as a prerequisite for editing any article already on mainspace. Celestina007 (talk) 18:59, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from FilmFanMG (08:07, 12 April 2022)
I understand I can edit Wikipedia pages but can I create one because there isn’t some that I think are important --FilmFanMG (talk) 08:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello and welcome, please it would benefit you more to start slowly and begin to learn the policies and guidelines of this community prior thinking of article creation, contrary to conventional belief, article creations aren’t hard but aren’t easy either. Celestina007 (talk) 19:10, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from SinhaAarush (12:03, 12 April 2022)
Hello, (((Looking at our logs, it seems your IP address is either shared or part of a large range that has been blocked to prevent an abusive user from vandalizing our site. Unfortunately, while this adequately protects our site, it does affect a large number of innocent users. You can, however, still edit while logged in with an account. I'm assuming you don't have one already, so you can request one at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Request_an_account To speed this up, it's a good idea to check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth to make sure that the username you want is not already taken. Apologies for the inconvenience this causes, but I assure you large blocks like this are a last resort.)))

The above statement was given by https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Deepfriedokra

I had a conversation with the previous owner of this mobile. I think he used multiple accounts and gave unsourced content.

I just want a protection for using the presently blocked IP address. As he told me his account want searched using IP address. I am a editing addict so I need protection. I am not responsible for the works of the previous owner. I will violate any Wikipedia Rules as I am a old editor. --SinhaAarush (talk) 12:04, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello and welcome, sadly, I don’t believe I can be of any help as unfortunately I can’t make heads or tails of what actually it is you are trying to say, courtesy ping to, in case they want to comment on anything. Celestina007 (talk) 19:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, my. You've opened a can of worms saying you know the previous owner of the device you are using. That raises the question of how intertwined to two of you are. (Let's not go there.) Did you create this account or did the nice folks at account creation? If the latter, then you should be fine. If the former, the question is whether your editing convinces the Community that there is some connection that needs looking into. If not, ISP's reassign IP's fairly often. At one point, the IP my phone was using was blocked. Not that I can ever use the thing to edit. I'm gonna assume good faith and not worry about those things and tell you not to worry either. (Don't state the IP.  That's a private matter, and we do not link IP's to accounts openly.) -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 19:32, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank You @Deepfriedokra SinhaAarush (talk) 06:08, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

awb
Hi friend! I think some of your AWB settings may be a little off, as I saw you tagged some disambig pages as stubs and orphans. The pages in question are K94, K96, and K99. Curbon7 (talk) 03:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * yes indeed, sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused & yeah i do agree you are indeed Twitter famous. Celestina007 (talk) 19:05, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Expose Facts (09:58, 15 April 2022)
Hi,

I want to know what can I do? If I saw a Wikipedia user altering information on a page & the altered information is fake and not real. How do I report such user? How to prevent vandalism from such users? --Expose Facts (talk) 09:58, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , you report vandalism at WP:AIV after you must have warned the editor in question. Celestina007 (talk) 10:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Blocks
How do I avoid getting blocked That guy in the corner of the room (talk) 18:25, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Simply stop making stupid, pointless, disruptive edits. Theroadislong (talk) 18:31, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Like what That guy in the corner of the room (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Like your edits to this talk page. CUPIDICAE💕  18:53, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * 💀💀💀💀💀 That guy in the corner of the room (talk) 22:58, 16 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Oh well since they were so fascinated about blocks, and trolling me, the good ol served them an indef I guess their Easter presents came right on time. Celestina007 (talk) 02:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm a week early. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:38, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , wowwwww! Celestina007 (talk) 19:08, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Even handed handed even
RE: your query about GenoV84's false assertion that Editors aren't allowed to remove sourced informations with references from the encyclopedia — WP:DUE and WP:ONUS are, in fact, largely intended to mitigate that flawed notion. As an aside, Islamic scholars (or any other religious scholars) are still scholars in the field of religion and theology. Mine or yours or GenoV84 (whoever)'s view as to the value of that scholarship notwithstanding. It is consensus which determines that. Consensus in the wider scholarship as well as project-wide, and wherein hopefully, the two align. El_C 19:47, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , E, I do understand you and like i mentioned to them I didn’t even bother looking into why they were at ANI, I see you have served them a two week time out, well that’s too bad for them, but their edit summary caught my interest as I did see it word for word somewhere in 2016 and since then never saw it again, let me correct something, (they aren’t pinged) wasn’t being outrightly dishonest but more misrepresenting information as the latter part of that statement reads "if the information is from a biased source" or something along those lines, Infact, the reason I sought the source of the information was because I knew dishonest editors were going to invariably use that as an excuse to write garbage on probably paid jobs but since I found the latter part of that statement I now know in entirety what that statement meant in the relevant context, thus why I refer to their actions as a misrepresentation or misinterpreting information, Look I’m in agreement with you, heck! Even WP:Unreliable source dispels such notion my goal was to find the source of the statement, they did show me the source of it and I’m appreciative of them for that and that’s that for that. I’d take a closer look into their ANI and see what all that noise was for. Celestina007 (talk) 20:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm not following a lot of that. But, though I said that their misrepresentation of policy is concerning, that wasn't the main reason for the block. Anyway, just trying to answer your question by explaining why that isn't a thing, why it wouldn't be workable. El_C 20:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , and I do firmly agree with you that indeed it isn’t a thing & such a notion is absolute rubbish. Celestina007 (talk) 20:56, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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23:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

RE: Badri Lal Yadav
Just letting you know I moved this article you draftified back to mainspace, as the issues that led to the draftification (i.e. broken formatting) were fixed, and it is notable. Curbon7 (talk) 00:29, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Good one. I don’t think anyone mentioned anything about notability, ironically the mere act of drafitication means the reviewer believes the article can be mainspace worthy in the future, if certain things are addressed so yeah like I said good one. Anything else? Celestina007 (talk) 01:17, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Uploading Images to Wikipiedia
Hi I have been in wikipedia for near to 1o months. I have got majority ideas on editing and still working on my sandbox to improve. The only problem I'm facing is uploading images. I basically do the articles on Malayalam movies. I wish to upload the images that are shared by the crew members or production house official social media pages. Can you please guide me in this? Uploading images from social media. I have gone through many articles and I can't understand it fully.Paavamjinn (talk) 17:44, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

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22:54, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Bikash patel office on User access levels (15:11, 26 April 2022)
Hi how are you dear friend --Bikash patel office (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

this tamzin RfA
The Whatever, high atop The Thing... let it rest :) but then, what shall I joke about? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:20, 25 April 2022 (UTC)


 * it seems you're on an unexpected wikibreak; i hope you're all right, and back soon! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , You are so sweet, Yes indeed, it was impromptu, I lost a family member so I travelled to U.S, Utah specifically to pay my last respects. Celestina007 (talk) 12:10, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear that! :( I hope you're doing all right, and I'm glad to have you back here. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 00:00, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , Thank you for your show of love, I’m equally glad to be back, I’ve really missed you all. Celestina007 (talk) 00:03, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * you may want to turn off the MOS:CURLY quotes? oh my god, you tempted the wrath again. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 00:05, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , I’m not sure I’ve used curly quotes throughout our interaction, but again I’m a mobile editor so I’m not oblivious of the fact that there is a distinction or variance between both interface and how they appear, be that as it may, I really can’t turn it off via my mobile, perhaps (if in existence, a script may do the trick). I’m a bit too scatter brained Atm to think straight. Ah! TLC, I promise you it wasn’t  my intention to tempt the wrath believe you me. Lmao. Celestina007 (talk) 00:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

turning off curly quotes depends on the device :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 00:49, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , Oh boy this made me laugh, you just had to bring west wing into this. Celestina007 (talk) 00:52, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Please look at Peter Obi
Tag team probable vandalism: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Obi&action=history 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:08, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems like it has been taken care of. Reading Beans Talk to the Beans? 05:13, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Some flowers for you, dear
Hello, I've missed seeing you around the past week and am wondering how you are doing. Here are some very happy and healthy pink azaleas for you from my tiny urban garden. Netherzone (talk) 22:54, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , NZ, thank you so much I’m indeed okay. I lost a family member in Utah so I travelled to U.S to pay my last respects, I’m back home now though. I really appreciate the show of love and concern, I appreciate the flowers too. Thanks love. Celestina007 (talk) 12:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * So sorry about your lost, my condolences. Karissa 247 (talk) 12:24, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Celestina007 (talk) 12:35, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm very sorry to hear about your family loss but am glad you were able to travel to Utah to pay your last respects. It sounds as though your relative was surrounded with love. Utah is such a beautiful place, I hope this beauty was somewhat restorative. The stars at night, the big sky, the land...it's understandably why that area is often referred to as God's Country. Take good care. Netherzone (talk) 13:03, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , It is indeed, the inexplicable aura of love did Infact radiate and resonate throughout the entirety of my being. I really cannot thank you and all other editors who have constantly been mailing me enough, all of the messages and show of love and support rejuvenated me. I’m really appreciative of the love. I do not take it for granted. Thanks NZ, you’re such a sweetheart. Celestina007 (talk) 17:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

RE: MAKAYLA MALAKA
Hello Celestina,

Trust you are well.

Do you mind checking my draft work on Makayla Malaka as I have made some changes in the referencing as you advised earlier. Thank you.

N.B: I am yet to submit the article.Karissa 247 (talk) 12:22, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Honestly please just stop. You are very close to becoming an SPA promo account, seriously just stop already. No matter the adjustments you claim to have made the sourcing is absent. I have painstakingly analyzed the sources for you elsewhere what else do you then seek from me? Alright can you show me here any three sources that satisfy RS & GNG? Celestina007 (talk) 12:34, 29 April 2022 (UTC)


 * , I’m assuming you haven’t seen the message above thus I’m pinging you to draw your attention to it, in summary I’m saying the article and it’s sources are one giant pre packaged sponsored material, but for the benefit of doubt can you go through WP:RS and show me any three sources discussing the subject of the article which satisfies RS & WP:GNG. Celestina007 (talk) 16:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

SunShine

 * Thanks love. I appreciate you. Celestina007 (talk) 18:06, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I hope you are doing well. :) ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  18:07, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , I am indeed, many a night I worried about the state of the encyclopedia and how my absence may allow for certain things to occur but thankfully, whenever this crossed my mind, I was relieved whenever I also remembered Praxidicae, yourself, , were active & more than capable of holding the fort. Celestina007 (talk) 18:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * “People want to be free from Firawn, however it is more important that we try to be free from Firawnism”. — Manazir Ahsan Gilani —per . Interestingly, I saw your essay and thought asking you, would you consider my above source as "unreliable" and some sort of indication towards "UPE", because it does contain the "Guest author" tag but it does mention the author's name. ─ The Aafī on Mobile   (talk)|undefined  18:53, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , are you familiar with what an op-Ed source is? It seems as though the source you provided is a quintessential example of a good op-Ed source, if the byline reads guest editor and they proceed to provide an author, then as aforementioned that is example of a good op-Ed source, but it is my candid opinion you stay away from both op-Ed sources or any form of opinion piece(s). They hardly ever count to notability. Celestina007 (talk) 19:50, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Never, not never, worry about Wikipedia.
 * It is here to be enjoyed, not worried about.
 * We will never beat them all, but those we beat we will enjoy beating. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:09, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , some teachers enjoy beating, yeah ... ─ The Aafī on Mobile   (talk)|undefined  19:11, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @AafiOnMobile You add a new dimension to UPE hunting 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:18, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , wise words indeed old friend. Celestina007 (talk) 21:46, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Aside from Nigeria, some relaxation
Would you, and any talk page stalkers who wish to, please look at Dorothy Hewett. I have alienated the creating editor with difficult to receive advice with good intent and wish not to interact with them further. Indeed, I am not sure I am likely to be listened to. I have no desire to influence you further, except to say that I believe the current main editor would benefit from friendly and positive advice in order to enhance their time on Wikipedia 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:32, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * , would look into it mate. Celestina007 (talk) 21:48, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If there is advice required it needs care in the giving of it 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:54, 29 April 2022 (UTC)