User talk:Celestina007/Archives/2022/March

Re ACC

 * I've sent an email, instead of posting here, as it relates to the ACC tool. Just wanted to clarify things regarding some of your defers to the CU queue. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:27, 28 February 2022 (UTC)


 * , Replied mate! Celestina007 (talk) 16:56, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

State Spamming?
See Special:Contributions/Ebubechukwu1, and dig down for their editing colleagues. I hear quacking ducks Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 19:12, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , to be honest, I’ve observed this for a while now, I’m not so sure now but I think it started as a contest or something along those lines until what it has morphed into I would take a more pedantic look into it today now. Celestina007 (talk) 19:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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22:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Hey there
I've followed you for quite some time and your efforts at pointing out socks and paid editing. I wonder if you could take a look at something and just give me your advice as to what you see?

In conversation on User_talk:Torterra_Ketchum_5999, made a claim that an IP editor is in fact, even acknowledging they were blocked but edits on Wikipedia as an IP to "help others". The editor,, has been asked to either confirm or deny whether they are a paid editor which includes direct payment for article creation or simply an employee of Magic Moments Motions Pictures. Something that, at this point, they have not addressed. I will admit that, in both cases, the circumstantial evidence is there. @Torterra could just be a fan but they do seem to have some inside knowledge. In the case of the IP, it is possible they edit within a range of IP's but their knowledge of Wikipedia, as evidenced on User talk:Shinnosuke15 is alarming, including being directly addressed as Amkgp. Amkgp had a history of editing while logged out even before being blocked and it continued after they retired User talk:Amkgp. Also disturbing is @Itcouldbepossible's attempt at canvassing through this conversation. . Thanks for looking at it and offering insight. -- A Rose Wolf  17:22, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello there, this is an interesting one, yes noted a long time ago that Amkgp was in the habit of logging out to edit on AN as an IP. I’m not really sure I understand what is going on here but if  is stating categorically that the IP is Amkgp and goes on (to subliminally) hail Amkgp as an editor who “helps others” then that only makes it worse for Amkgp, as invariably they would have been evading a “block” which is abysmal I must say. As you noted, this, is really all shades of strange, but I believe this anomalies should be given special treatment at SPI, if Amkgp's behavioral pattern can be juxtaposed with the named editors then I think a loud quack can be sufficient enough for a clerk to endorse and a sysop to evoke an indef block. Celestina007 (talk) 23:00, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Whoa!!! I just cannot imagine things would have gone so far. Anyway, it is best to clear misconceptions before they go to far. Well, let me tell you celestina that AMKGP has been evading a block since really long. I cannot link all the diffs, but the fact is true. And I am not hailing Amkgp in anyway, and there is not a reason to do so. But, I said the quoted thing because, its really true that he helps newcomers, and same goes for me.
 * Now, let me clear what the thought that you are having, that I am a sockpuppet of Amkgp. First of all, do you know that I was once blocked, by Blablubbs? Maybe you didn't. Now let me tell you why I was blocked. Well, this Amkgp we are all now taking about and whom you think I am a sock of, he filed a spi case against me, stating at I was a sockpuppet of DasSoumik. He provided some evidences, and that got me blocked for good. Later, Yamla unblocked me, with full consent of Blablubbs, because the technical details did not match at all. Thanks to her, because the evidences that he provided against me were enough for an indefinite block. Now why did Amkgp suddenly go crazy on me. The fact is that he created Ambarish Bhattacharya during "one of their loutsocking stints" as Blablubbs says on his talk page reply, which I have already linked previously. Now why would you think, I would have gone for deleting my own creation, which is applicable if you call me "the sock of Amkgp"? Secondly, why will I (if you consider me to be Amkgp) file a sockpuppet investigation case of another account that I created, especially when I know that the reasons I am giving would block me? Wouldn't it be counter productive to create an account, and then nominate my (if you think I am Amkgp) own article for deletion, and then file a sockpuppet investigation request against that account? I can give you more evidences if you want. I complain extensively about Amkgp on my talk page, and even ask administrators to block off his whole IP range. Then why will be doing that? Why will I be blocking myself (again if you think "myself" to be Amkgp)? Here Amkgp gives me a warning for one of my wrong edits which I had made while reverting vandalism (whereI myself had vandalized the article in an attempt of reversing vandalism, which I think can happen, because at that time I was new), then can you explain me why I (if you thing I am Amkgp) would be giving me a warning? I also give a stern reply to Amkgp, where I threat him, that I will complain against him at WP:ANI, if by any chance he does anything that I don't like. Again, why will I threat myself to complain at WP:ANI? You may not have answers to this questions, as you just made a wild guess against me, with just one evidence (that too a diff), and without investigating the matter in detail.
 * But, slowly I understood that Amkgp is not bad and would not be troubling me, and I saw that he follows me everywhere (which I did not like at the beginning), and helps me out when I do wrong editing (like messing up with wiki tags, or markups), and he even helped me reuse a reference in one of the articles that I had been developing. See this. And also he left a note on my talk page, on how to reuse references properly. And also he used to make good faith edits while editing, like adding citation to unreferenced things, and also adding trp details (along with citations), to Bengali TV shows. And from them on, I understood that he is good, and tries to help others out if he can. And that is why I said "helps other", with which you are thinking wrong things about me.
 * Well now to speak the truth, I never knew Rose Wolf would get so much violent, with such a small thing. Wonder what he /she has done? He / she has brought up the issue on Blablubbs talk page!!! Now really, that is somewhat funny. Anyway, I wrote a huge message just to make things as clear as possible. You can also put yourself in my place and think what you would have done is such a case. Imagine, I calling you a sockpuppet of someone else, just relying only one or two things. Ok, to sum up, I apologize for any misunderstanding that may have been caused. I think RoseWolf would be able to understand what I said, and clear any misconception that they might have of me. May you have a great editing career ahead. Thanks and regards. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 14:20, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @, I’m afraid I do not understand you, my sole comment pertaining to this ordeal is this very one you are literally replying to, no where did I ever state that you were a sock of anyone, so I’m puzzled as to why you’d think I’m assuming or thinking that you are Amkgp, in-fact it was you who has expressly stated twice now that Amkgp is evading their block to which my advice to ARW was to take this to SPI, this is easily substantiated as my advice (is literally above), thus my amazement as to why you are making statements such as “” what are you saying? who called you a sock? and where? I’m assuming good faith here but please do not cast such aspersions next time. Celestina007 (talk) 21:20, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I apologize for opening this up to you, Celestina. I have no idea where this editor is getting the baseless claim that any of us have said they are a sock puppet of anyone. I am not at all concerned with this editors past with a potential block evader. I am only concerned with what appears to be multiple issues all around this particular subject which is disruptive to our collaborative effort. We have a potential editor with an undisclosed coi creating articles only related to a specific television production company in India but to this point has not said anything confirming or denying this. We have an IP editor that has stated they have used multiple random IP addresses to edit for the past 9 years engaged in placing warnings all over said users talk page for the same exact edits which border on WP:HUSH concerns to me. This same IP has been accused of being an editor that has been indefinitely blocked from editing, a claim they have only just now said is untrue but never refuted it in any of the other cases where they were accused. If that is the case then the accuser owes the accused a big apology as they have repeated this claim over and over. And you have this editor that claims that I have gotten "violent" because I sought the guidance of an experienced editor in this community which had no ties to this situation at all and that of an admin which has had some ties to it on the periphery but I believe can discuss things objectively as they haven't taken sides in this particular case. I am dumbfounded, perplexed and disturbed by the aspersions cast here by @Itcouldbepossible and I humbly ask them to apologize to you for these accusations. I will restate this. I do not believe this is a small thing. the integrity of Wikipedia is under assault from all angles. Whereas we can not treat Wikipedia as a battleground and we are to assume good faith, something I have called for on multiple occasions in regards to these editors, we also must protect the integrity of the encyclopedia by educating ourselves and others on the core principles of Wikipedia and how to execute them properly as a community and when necessary take the steps to ensure said principles are being followed through collaboration, dispute resolution and enforcement mechanisms. -- A Rose  Wolf  16:32, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , ARW, you do not need to apologize, your actions have been in accordance with policy, I am no stranger to both ad hominem or editors casting aspersions, since closed the last ANI case I was involved in concerning my approach to unethical editing, I have consciously always chosen my words very carefully when conversing with editors thus I pay no mind to aspersions being cast on me as I know I haven’t erred, however if it continues I know the best route to follow to handle such cases. Back to real business, honestly I appreciate and understand perfectly your frustrations when you have raised concerns about a particular editor and the relevant institutions do not take action, for example, see this, they note the behavioral evidence is there, but technical evidence isn’t (oh well, I’m no Checkuser or clerk but I can tell you expressly how Checkuser works, through email) I do not necessarily blame sysops for this sort of inaction(s) rather i believe it’s a systematic problem, in the past, some bold sysops who took “bold” actions, paid dearly for it, thus sysops are (extremely conscious) or (are very conservative) about taking bold actions, and this isn’t necessarily a good or bad thing but oh well (it is what it is), if you have reported a particular editor for their problematic actions be it at COIN, AIV, AN, or ANI, and nothing was done, what you want to do is, if the pattern is re-occurring is file a new report show diffs and in your new report reference the former report you made, wait for input, then propose a sanction. That usually works. Another way may be to email the Checkuser team directly, although sometimes I prefer working with Arbcom when it involves personal data, and even sometimes even if personal data or outing isn’t a problem, I find them efficient. Celestina007 (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Excellent advice! This is why I came to you. Thanks again. -- A Rose Wolf  19:29, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * , ARW, please continue your goods works, I’m always available(even via email) if you need more in-depth responses to nebulous statements I have made. Thank you for your good works ARW, we are grateful to have you here. Celestina007 (talk) 19:36, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * @Celestina007 Ok Celestina. I did not cast asperations on you just like that. You said this anomalies should be given special treatment at SPI, if Amkgp's behavioral pattern can be juxtaposed with the named editors then I think a loud quack can be sufficient enough for a clerk to endorse and a sysop to evoke an indef block. What did you mean by 'named editors'? You are talking about indef blocking, whom were you taking about blocking? You were saying about a loud quack. Who is your opinion is loud quacking here? Natually, I thought you were referring all those to me, since only I am a 'named editor' here, who is involved in this matter. That is why I said that you were thinking I to be a sock of Amkgp. Or what else? Did I mis understand you? If yes, then please correct me. Miscommunications can always happen.
 * Ok, in the second case, I accept my inefficiency in choosing words, and the I accept that 'violent' does not go here. It was not wrong from her part to ask experienced editors for help. I just wanted to mean, that she was taking matters too far, when they could be solved more easily. Next you are talking about emailing the Checkuser team, which I don't have any problem in, but my question is if you don't suspect me to be Amkgp, or whoever, they why are you telling about Checkusers? These things are not really clear to me. Again, it could be the fact that I might have misunderstood what you have written, so I am seeking you to clarify what you write.
 * And regarding this 'Amkgp matter', I am not sure if he is Amkgp or not. I always think him to be Amkgp since he filed my SPI case when I sent one of their articles to AFD. And that was again from that 2402:3A80 range. Though the range is big, but he always used it, but there can still be many others who uses that range. So again there, I cannot say it surely that he is obviously Amkgp. Secondly, it was only on TorteraKetchum's talk page where he denied the fact that he was Amkgp, and no where else. I had accused him to be Amkgp in many places, but he denied none of them. So naturally, when one doesn't deny an accusation that has been placed on them, then we can accept the fact that they accept what is being said. Right or wrong?
 * Anyway, I think all this dispute type thing should stop here, since we are just fighting for nothing relating to us. And all this trouble started when the IP, issued his view even after issuing an warning. So, please lets stop here.
 * And, I might be as well as wrong, about the identity of the IP, so I think I owe him an apology.
 * Respected Mr. / Mrs. 2402:3A80
 * I Itcouldbepossible, am really sorry for calling you Amkgp repeatedly, and insulting you here and there. I thought you were so, because you had never denied the accusation before. But, you are really Amkgp, then let me tell you that even if your edits are good faith, and you are trying to help other, and keep Bengali TV show related articles vandalism free, but you are actually evading a block. But, if you really aren't Amkgp, then I am really really sorry for calling you so, and saying all the things I said above. So, please forgive me.
 * Yours sincerely
 * Itcouldbepossible.
 * PS: I am sorry Celestina for writing all this here, but I think it is the best place to write, since you can also see my apology. I am the IP editor will also see this, since he follows my contributions. ItcouldbepossibleTalk 07:21, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Jean D'amour Mutoni
Unilateral move to main space after you draftified it. Another "Entrepreneur", but may just be notable Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 11:25, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , ah! I see our famous “entrepreneurs” are at it again. I’m currently at my place of work so I’m unable to do much & probably may not bother to use any anti spam tools on this one, checking for cross wiki spamming might be worth it but I don’t believe I have the mental energy to pursue this one, contacting a trusted editor at WP:RWANDA to do a source analysis might be a move I’d be willing to take as soon as I log out of work for the day. Celestina007 (talk) 13:21, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I tend to forget that I am retired! I was never, though, an entrepreneur!  Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 13:25, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I encountered a BLP recently who at the time was a "serial entrepreneur", I wondered if he had been convicted or something. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:41, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , oh my days. I’m literally chortling as I type this. Celestina007 (talk) 18:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe a typo by the kink of cornflakes? Cereal entrepreneur, perhaps? Nick Moyes (talk) 21:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

New to Wikipedia
Hi Celestina007,

It's glad to be assigned as a mentee to you. I am new here and have little idea how to begin on projects.

I know I must go by the tasks that your message asked me to volunteer with, but should I first begin by editing pages related to topics from my local area?

I would like to know your opinion on this matter and more on how to get better started and contribute to make Wikipedia a better place and myself a better writer.Bprs68 (talk) 02:50, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , Hello, and welcome to the collaborative project, also, thanks for leaving me a message, hey, can you confirm it was “I” you were assigned to? I do not see you listed as assigned to me, but that is no problem as I can perfectly be of help, although I do note something on the logs, and I presume you mistake or misinterpret some technical work I did for you, as automatically meaning you are assigned to me, however, like I stated earlier you are free to ask me any questions you want to.
 * From your first question, I think yes you are at liberty to do so, but start slowly, check for those type of articles and look out for minor errors such as spelling or grammatical related problems and feel free to remedy such. Hey! did you see WP:HI & WP:TUTORIAL yet? If yes, good job! and if not, checking those out is a good idea as a (general prerequisite to editing on mainspace) if you want to just “play around” a bit to check out how good your editing skills are developing/have developed, please see WP:SANDBOX. So yes that’s what I think, I need to also mention that at this stage bookmarking the WP:TEAHOUSE page is a brilliant idea, generally the idea is to ask & ask & keep asking, I recommend asking at the TEAHOUSE as a good idea because a plethora of editors are there to answer your questions round the clock, this is good because if you observe, you’d note that it took me a little while to see and reply to this message due to my day job, but the TEAHOUSE never sleeps. Welcome to collaborative project once again. . Celestina007 (talk) 14:28, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Paid user
Hello sir, how I can report you an active paid user who created a few pages? I already sent an email to info-en email but how I can send you the details?
 * Hey there IP user, I’m not sure I can be of much help, i can only presume it may contain sensitive data, if you have sent it to over to info-en, I might take a look at it, unfortunately I really can’t do more than that right now, as I’m not sure I wield the mental energy for that at the moment. However, thank you for your contributions and thanks for stopping by. Celestina007 (talk) 14:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm pinging @Smallbones here, because I'm pretty sure I remember him inviting editors to report to him about paid users. Dutchy45 (talk) 09:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey Dutchy45, I’m not sure pinging or anyone, is a good idea. If the message the IP user sent to info-en contains sensitive material, discussing it on mainspace especially if it may contain information that may reveal a users identity is a very egregious transgression. See WP:OUTING. Celestina007 (talk) 22:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I don't see the problem. Smallbones is such an experienced editor, he knows better than almost anybody on WP how to handle a situation like this with sensitivity. Apologies if I"m wrong, but your reply makes me question if you know who Smallbones is. He is the editor-in-chief of the Signpost. Dutchy45 (talk) 01:29, 4 March 2022 (UTC)


 * , which is immaterial to dealing with reporting undisclosed paid editing I’m afraid. Please UPE is a sensitive topic area, do you mind stepping back from this? Or you may choose to contact Smallbones directly at their talk page and not mine? If you click here it leads you to their talk page, prior doing so you may need to read Reporting undisclosed paid editors/editing. Furthermore see WP:OUTING & our privacy policy. Celestina007 (talk) 09:51, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Request for help
Hello Celestina007, I read the signpost and I noted in article "10 years of tea" you said you enjoy teaching, so I was wondering if you can help me out? I have a fairly technical problem. I'm not a new editor (4+ years and 6000+ edits across the projects). Ofcourse I would understand if you're too busy. Dutchy45 (talk) 09:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , hey there, are you having technical difficulty? Might I interest you in visiting VPT I believe that is a better venue for obtaining technical guidance. Celestina007 (talk) 17:24, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will do! Dutchy45 (talk) 01:30, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing closed
An arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:


 * is warned against a battleground mentality and further incivility.
 * Rp2006 is indefinitely topic banned from edits related to living people associated with or of interest to scientific skepticism, broadly construed. This topic ban may be appealed after six months have elapsed and every six months thereafter.
 * is reminded to remain collegial in editing and interacting with others.
 * is warned to remain collegial in editing and interacting with others.
 * GSoW is advised that a presence on English Wikipedia, perhaps as its own WikiProject or as a task force of WikiProject Skepticism, will create more transparency and lessen some of the kinds of suspicion and conflict that preceded this case. It could also provide a place for the GSoW to get community feedback about its training which would increase its effectiveness.
 * Editors are reminded that discretionary sanctions for biographies of living people have been authorized since 2014. Editors named in this decision shall be considered aware of these discretionary sanctions under awareness criterion 1.

For the Arbitration Committee, &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 05:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Discuss this at: 

Another Victory for Anti Spam/UPE + Obliteration of a Nigerian UPE Ring
Following this report which I filed after observing due diligence and making use of my vast anti spam tools, it appears i was apt as usual, almost all members of the UPE ring have been blocked. It is indeed another victory for anti spam Celestina007 (talk) 21:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Creation of New Article on Jennifer Uchendu
Good day, Celestina how do you do. Regarding the creation of a new article on Jennifer Uchendu, I have seen it has been created before and nominated for deletion. I request for reconsideration of a new article and following all rules about been notation, reason for requesting for this is due to the ongoing edit tha thon in progress of wiki for human. I await your responses.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dammy Kaka (talk • contribs) 15:04, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , not sure that’s a good idea. Please see this. Celestina007 (talk) 15:35, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Mandava Sai Kumar
Hello, It seems the timing was same of the placement of tags on Mandava Sai Kumar, I had opened a discussion on his page as the Times of India profile seems he has some sort of work profile available, please feel free to correct me Thanks Suryabeej      ⋠talk⋡    18:32, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello there, please see WP:CSD. Celestina007 (talk) 18:35, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * @, I’m not sure I’ve interacted with you before now, I probably have and I can’t remember, but for the longest time, not only have i admired your username, I literally have admired everything about your personality and how you edit and this has been from 2016 when I registered, thanks for the Barnstar, I also want to commend your activity at the WP:APAT PERM venue. Celestina007 (talk) 06:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * A major thanks to who gave me a chance to serve in this capacity as well. Celestina007 (talk) 06:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Redirects
Hi Celestina007 I was wondering if you could help me with something, I’ve seen your edits and I want to know how to create redirects. Could you please create a redirect from Charity Shop Sue to Shane Meadows as this is a tv series he has written and produced. Thanks Rockchick09 (talk) 21:30, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello there I’m afraid that wouldn’t be attainable. Celestina007 (talk) 22:21, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi can I ask why not? I have read the rules on redirects and If a series isn’t notable enough for a page on its own why can’t it be redirected to the creator which mentions the series on his page. ThanksRockchick09 (talk) 23:17, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , because at the point you made the request/left the message on my tp the title was a red-link(yet to be created) thus It was literally impossible at that point. all that is sorted now. Peace Profound. Celestina007 (talk) 20:37, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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Email
Please respond at your earliest convenience -- TNT (talk • she/her) 17:13, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , Replied TNT Celestina007 (talk) 18:43, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Gokulsedai on Suagpur (04:38, 16 March 2022)
Hi --Gokulsedai (talk) 04:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello there, my name is Celestina007, you have been assigned to me and forthwith you have become my responsibility, you are free to message me anytime you feel like it and ask me every question you have pertaining Wikipedia. I have gone ahead and welcomed you on your talkpage and have left some useful links that would prove helpful to your editing career, my job is to see to it that you fulfill your utmost potential so please I’m always available. If you find some of the links I provided to you on your TP to be confusing just let me know or just ask a specific question. Thanks for joining the collaborative project we are glad to have you. Celestina007 (talk) 08:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Suwagpur is real please chage the name in this place Suagpur to Suwagpur - Hello please publish my page. Gokulsedai (talk) 08:50, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , I’m sorry I am unable to do so, on Wikipedia we work with what is verifiable please see WP:V and not truth. How do we ascertain verifiability on Wikipedia you might ask, we do this via the use of reliable sources please see WP:RS thus if you want to move that article to a different name you should provide some reliable sources that establishes the fact that the article's WP:COMMONNAME ought to be “Suwagpur”. Please See WP:CITE & WP:REFB to aid you in sourcing.
 * However, I want to add that this sort of editing is something we might want to drop for now and circle back to after you must have read some of our basic policies and guidelines. I’d like for you to begin by reading WP:TUTORIAL & WP:GETTINGSTARTED. I am currently at work thus I might not be available to answer your questions in the next 30 minutes to 1 hour, so if you have any pressing questions you might want to ask, please directly do so at the WP:TEAHOUSE or contact directly. Celestina007 (talk) 10:52, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, Celestina007,

I feel the need for some Celestina007-style positivity and inspiration. How are you doing these days? Biggest news here, besides the war, is that our mask mandate lifts here on Saturday. I've been wearing a mask for so many months, I'll feel naked without it! Stay well! Liz Read! Talk! 01:30, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , you know Liz, I was going to call you a night owl and talk about how bizarre it is that we both hardly sleep, then it hit me, i presume it’s barely 6pm in the city you reside in and it is 3:07am! in my city, so I guess I’m the one doing the night-owling, and the joke is on me :) I’m doing good Liz and thanks for asking, hope you are too. About the mask, I can relate, but you could always choose to put it on regardless. Good health and peace of mind are paramount and take preeminence over any other thing. Here’s a little fun fact for you before I get back to Netflix binging, I’m a firm believer in always putting on a mask and getting vaccinated, here are some fun facts which would make you chortle. (a) most people from my city have never worn a face mask since 2020 till date as they believe the weather is too hot for the virus to survive thus they are auto immune. (b) The covid vaccine is seen by most people in my city as the biblical “mark of the beast” / “Anti-Christ”. I swear I’m not even saying this to make you laugh, take a look. Oh boy! I love my city and their hilarious and unique perspective(s) and approach to most things. Nice to hear from you Liz, please do stay safe always.  Celestina007 (talk) 02:13, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, if COVID-19 is seen as the "mark of the beast", you'd think they'd do whatever they can to not catch it! I'm a cancer survivor so I am still wearing my mask although my elderly mother couldn't wait to stop wearing hers! She's more vulnerable than I am because of her age but she's a survivor and I think her attitude is "If I lived through wars and depressions, a virus isn't going to kill me". I hope I have her spirit when I'm her age! Take care, Liz Read! Talk! 23:33, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , I’m sorry about that Liz, over mail we have discussed about ailments. By all means please continue to wear a mask, I cannot remember a time from 2020 till date were I haven’t worn one. Coincidentally some of my relatives share the same philosophy as your mother does, although their excuse or, rationale is “ Jesus Got us (Spiritually) protected so we can’t catch the virus” & I’m like what??? But truthfully, even though I wear the mask all the time, I still pray for my health and pray for world peace. Tbh, I’m also spiritually inclined but that doesn’t give me an excuse not to put on one. Honestly I always wear one. Your mother's spirit is a strong one, i like her spirit, I have no doubt that when you are her age you’d have the same spirit, perhaps even stronger. Celestina007 (talk) 00:26, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

is an interesting-looking account. Not sure if there's socking, or just UPE, but I haven't got enough to go on. Maybe one to watch, with your all seeing eye?! Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks for stopping by, I would look into it. My all seeing eye you say Nahh not mine but that of all the editors engaging in fighting spam. Let the record reflect, , , , , , ,  , ,  and a plethora of other editors who aren’t coming to my mind at the moment, They are also just as hardworking as I am in our fight in obliterating spam and UPE. I would give you a feedback about the account you have reported to me. Curb give 30 minutes to look into this. Oh and yes indeed we are always watching and looking out for Spam/UPE. Celestina007 (talk) 15:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ and dealt with. They are clearly an spa for promotional purposes only. I agree with you that socking & UPE might be a factor here, in-fact I explained this in WP:TRIO. After this response to you, I’m putting on my anti spam lenses to look for more vital information. Depending on the complexity I might encounter, in 60 minutes i should have completed an extensive search and would give you the details. Celestina007 (talk) 16:25, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * well, I believe they're explicitly not here to build the encyclopedia. I personally suspect given their article Wofai Samuel and Edyreuben uploading this image as an own work on 22 December 2021, several months after Amos was blocked for sockpuppetry. I might be wrong but that's what came to my mind. ─  The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  17:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * See this and look at the articles history more. There you find one editing User:Eddysocial/Spax (producer). That is to say, this Edy might be Eddysocial? It is possible. ─  The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  17:14, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , Very brilliant work there. @, we are probably dealing with socking and undeclared paid editing. The user is a WP:SLEEPER or a sock account and may be that of and is probably connected with the editors named,  & . The aforementioned editors have a history of engaging in less than ethical practices and all of the aforementioned accounts have been indefinitely blocked. I have flagged the account. This is one giant sock farm or UPE ring engaging in Meat. I have forwarded the WP:NOTHERE evidence to . Celestina007 (talk) 17:30, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 100% of their Commons contributions are now up for deletion as copyvios or improperly licenced files. It's always pleasant to find things like that Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 17:59, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This is quite infuriating I must confess, I have indeed dealt with this sort of (probable) spamming in the past, the idea is usually to inundate the reviewer with citation overkill so much so that the reviewer sees it and just “walks away”. I am however thick skinned and would follow this up to the point where no REFBOMB is present. I’m currently removing their ref bombing, I think at the point this report was made the article had about 75-80 references with some of them blatantly unreliable and some sheer rehashing of other existing sources in the article. Celestina007 (talk) 18:08, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


 * , as suggested above by the this indeed looks like an alternate account of, I’d check for overlaps and file an SPI request based on the evidence I might “dig up” I’d also juxtapose the account with that of  and check for overlaps as well. Celestina007 (talk) 18:17, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Go for it! Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 21:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Notexactlytaylorswift (16:25, 17 March 2022)
i want to make a page about the Potato bean kelp of the new forest, how do i do this? --Notexactlytaylorswift (talk) 16:25, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , I am so sorry for replying late as I’m actively executing other things, please can you kindly not create any article just yet? Please read WP:TUTORIAL & WP:GETTINGSTARTED before we discuss anything about article creation, please pedantically read them, or, an alternate is this; how about you just read WP:YFA and when you are done reading it let me know. Celestina007 (talk) 00:45, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah ok, i wont make anything just yet. thanks Notexactlytaylorswift (talk) 12:53, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

More Progress At Anti Spam & Warning
A report was made to me yesterday by. Immediately I got to work, as I did so, dedicated anti-spam editors, & most especially who did a beyond brilliant job which I must commend them for, joined me in tackling this and in the end, it was a win for anti spam as  executed their duties perfectly. “” shouldn’t be mistaken for a gimmick that much I can definitively & expressly promise you, there isn’t any single spam or dubious-looking article that goes by, without at least one of our dedicated editors at anti spam flagging the article. Furthermore, WP:WPSPAM shouldn't be mistaken for a gabfest without action, because you best believe that we take serious actions. Having said, we are a peace-loving people who want the reputation of Wikipedia to remain unbesmirched, we aren’t actively hunting for spammers or undisclosed paid editors, No! that isn't what we do, we at anti spam edit in sensitive and contentious areas which has led to conflicts amongst the suspected dubious editors and one or more of our editors at anti spam, we know conflicts, we have seen a great number of conflicts, we do not want conflicts, but if you have come to cause conflict by creating dubious articles,  engaging in meat puppetry, engaging in cross wiki spamming, creating sock accounts, engaging in undisclosed paid editing at the English Wikipedia and its sister projects or in any way attempt to harm our reputation, we at anti spam can promise you one thing, you would never accomplish that, and if you persist after several warnings, that you would be indefinitely blocked is not only a promise we always keep but an inevitable eventuality. Celestina007 (talk) 21:29, 17 March 2022 (UTC)


 * They do seem to present themselves to us! Maybe we are all unbelievably attractive? Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 23:18, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , haha oh my days!!! 😂 Celestina007 (talk) 00:11, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

You've got mail
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 * , Replied Captain! Celestina007 (talk) 20:05, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Poco Lee
I had just finished analyzing the references in the article in order to take it to AFD and then you moved it to user space. You moved it to user space rather than draft space because there is already a draft. When there are both a draft and an article by the same author or by associated authors (same employer or same human), it is sometimes due to ignorance but at least as often due to gaming the system to prevent moving the article to draft space. If it turns up in article space again, please don't move it again because I am ready to take it to AFD. There are a lot of sources and none of them are significant and secondary. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:58, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * But thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)


 * No, not quite, see WP:UFY as an alternative. Now, it technically couldn’t be moved to Draftspace as the draft was already in a Draftspace of a different account as you mention. So it wasn’t technically possible to move to draft, leaving it on mainspace would have been a bad idea also thus the reason it was userfied. For the SPI report, See here. Do what you must, honestly it is my candid belief that the article doesn’t appear to be legitimate. Once you create the AFD I’d weigh in and if a source analysis is required of me I’d do that too. Gaming is a factor here, probable COI, as aforementioned if you are having troubles with any of the sources, please do ping me. Celestina007 (talk) 02:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ntheking (17:10, 19 March 2022)
I want to write on my poem collection,please help --Ntheking (talk) 17:10, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello and welcome, my name is Celestina, and to answer your question, I’m afraid Wikipedia doesn’t work in the way other websites do, that is, you cannot arbitrarily write about something and publish it, we are a collaborative project and we only publish material that is deemed notable, see WP:NOTABILITY. Furthermore another problem is we do not encourage the act of publishing materials in which the editor or author of the article has a conflict of interest in the article they are publishing, see WP:COI in this case this would be you publishing your book or poem as you have a vested interest. I’m sorry that this isn’t the response you were hoping to get. I am moving ahead to welcome you officially on your talkpage in that welcome message you’d see a number of links to relevant policy and guidelines that would aid you in understanding what Wikipedia is all about. You are at liberty to always ask me any questions any time you feel like it. In due time of your book/poem is notable enough a volunteer would create and publish it. Celestina007 (talk) 19:40, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Mohammed ibrahmraza hassanal on Articles for creation/Submitting (20:46, 19 March 2022)
draft title problem --Mohammed ibrahmraza hassanal (talk) 20:46, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , could you please tell me what the problem is? do you want to submit an article or do you want to change the name of a draft article? Please what precisely is the problem? I need to know the specific nature of your problem in order for me to determine the best approach to use in solving the problem. Celestina007 (talk) 20:55, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from AwesomeAlex261 (15:43, 18 March 2022)
can people see the page(s) i put out? --AwesomeAlex261 (talk) 15:43, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello there, by “pages” I presume you mean articles? If yes, then, it depends, if you share the url of an article you created then yes they can see the article, but conventionally if it has not been reviewed by a new page reviewer it takes about 90 days for the article to be indexed by google. Feel free to ask me more questions if you need further clarification. Celestina007 (talk) 20:11, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks AwesomeAlex261 (talk) 15:37, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

The wisdom in striking through
Nice edits at the RFA. Every one of us gets excited sometimes and reacts when we should hesitate. Me especially. Thanks for striking through and offering understanding where you chose to self-identify as a real human being. Thanks again. I like writing with people who frequently demonstrate good judgement, even when it may take them look less than stellar (perhaps especially so). BusterD (talk) 21:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the kinds words BD, I really do appreciate it. Thank you also for the good and arduous tasks you perform site wide. Celestina007 (talk) 21:09, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It is likewise always good to see your date stamp. I feel like a total amateur (and quite lazy) compared to some around here. Plus there are people who should swing the mop, but have due to their boldness may never be handed the mop. When trusted people own up to their humanity it makes this pedia a nicer place to create (and a larger community of trust). BusterD (talk) 21:19, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , this indeed is very much correct. My thinking is, ego plays a major factor in editors refusing to own up to their mistakes or take responsibility for their actions, I for one, always make it a point of duty to acknowledge my errors and tender my apology to the relevant editor. If individuals could keep their ego aside when editing here, as you correctly put it, it does indeed make the collaborative project a nicer place to create / work in. “Sorry” is a magic word, apologizing is indicative of maturity, I really don’t know why people would let ego rob them of an opportunity to learn and grow. Celestina007 (talk) 21:38, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, (to me) that last assertion is a new way of expressing this. Sounds like something a Shaolin monk might say on 1970's tv show. Or one might hear at twelve step meeting. BusterD (talk) 21:44, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , lmao, the part where you say “” got me & yes! you are apt that is literally what a Shaolin monk or a mystic guru would definitely say. Coincidentally I used to be a chela(student) of an oriental sadhguru. Celestina007 (talk) 21:56, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

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Question from AwesomeAlex261 (15:51, 22 March 2022)
hello Can I create multiple articles and put them on my user page --AwesomeAlex261 (talk) 15:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello and welcome, I’m sorry for the late response I’ve been indisposed in the last 40 hours it so happens that my blood pressure is elevated, things have stabilized now, Alright! So to answer your questions, no you may not, I am afraid that wouldn’t be a good approach, what you may want to do is use your WP:sandbox or WP:Draftspace to “Draft the new article” then upon completion, submit it via the WP:AFC method. Having said, might I ask you if you have read WP:YFA, WP:GNG & WP:RS? If not please put all ideas of creating new articles on hold, read the aforementioned, and when you are done, do well to let me know. Please it is important that you read the relevant links I have pointed to you pedantically. Celestina007 (talk) 11:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * OK thank you! hope you feel better!  @Celestina007 AwesomeAlex261 (talk) 14:51, 25 March 2022 (UTC)


 * , thank you for the kind words, my health has indeed improved, please when you are done reading the aforementioned please let me know, if you find reading all the links too cumbersome, please just read WP:GNG after which I beseech you to message me, telling me you have done so. Thank you once again and remain safe. Celestina007 (talk) 16:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Question From Ebubechukwu1
Good morning sir/ma,I'm Ebubechukwu a new editor from Nigeria and have been directed to your talk page to learn more about Wikipedia notability guideline because literally all the article i created get moved to draft for just one that reason.I'll be so glad to learn ma/sir. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebubechukwu1 (talk • contribs) 06:27, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , I note this by, please do not take second chances for granted. To be honest, In order for me to answer your question I need to understand precisely why you are binge creating articles on Nigerian government agencies almost all of which are non notable? Pinging if they have any questions or inputs they’d like to make. Celestina007 (talk) 12:17, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ebubechukwu1 I have precisely the same question. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:20, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Responding here so it's in one place. there's nothing to be forgiven for. It takes a while to learn but please take 's and my advice about draft space. Regardless of whether you have a COI, and I'm AGFing that you don't, it will help you. Star  Mississippi  19:01, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @ So Please do feel free to answer this concerns raised when or if you feel like it. Celestina007 (talk) 16:40, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Good evening ma/sir.I'm working on a project concerning Lagos state parastatals and Ministry called WikiLagos and i Wanted to give my contributions to the project.
 * I'm sorry about the way i replied @Star Mississippi.
 * Thank you. Ebubechukwu1 (talk) 17:20, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ebubechukwu1 I think it would be advisable for you to use the WP:AFC process, whcih has iterative reviews.
 * This process is not compulsory . I cannot insist that you use it. What I can do is suggest that you will receive a benefit from using it. You will have drafts that are good enough accepted. Those that are not yet good enough are pushed back to you for more work, and can be re-submitted. Those that will never be accepted on the grounds of lack of notability will be rejected.
 * This will save you work and save you from disappointment. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:43, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Sel polisi (23:53, 26 March 2022)
Hello how can i create an edit for my grandpa that passed away --Sel polisi (talk) 23:53, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , Oh my! I’m sorry to hear that. Per your question, there are certain things to consider, have you read WP:NOTABILITY? Have you read WP:GNG? If you have gone through the aforementioned, and you feel your grandpa was a notable individual, we then face another hurdle which is; Wikipedia frowns at creating articles on someone or something  you are too close with . Please see WP:COI. There are two ways to approach this, the first is to read WP:COIDISCLOSE, then ensure to submit the article using the AFC method. Another manner is called WP:RA, when you go there just include the name of your grandpa (assuming he is indeed a notable figure) and someone here would create the article accordingly. I’m sorry for your loss & I’m deeply disheartened by your current predicament. Celestina007 (talk) 00:55, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

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Draft: Rhea Fossils
Hey Celestina007! Thanks for helping me with that article! I have another one which I helped make, called Rhea Fossilis. Could you help me get it published?--Puffin Crazy (talk) 18:45, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , hello there, it seems as though both in draftspace and in article name space that the article is not present could you cross check and see if you missed something? Celestina007 (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Puffin Crazy - You mean Draft:Rhea Fossilis. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:59, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You haven't submitted it for review. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I just submitted it for review. Puffin Crazy (talk) 15:13, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Nothing will happen
Though I have followed some accounts to (eg) commons 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:22, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I don’t know, maybe, maybe not, but yeah it’s probably going to be closed with a warning to them. To be honest I don’t know if it’s a natural predisposition or an affinity, id say it’s the former as I’ve been combatting UPE since 2016 even before I knew what “UPE” meant. Thus far there is no editor I called dubious who didn’t end being dubious, perhaps only on a few editors was i wrong, I remember making a report to ArbCom about an editor I suspected of being sketchy and it took two more years before they realized & this is what I had seen over two years old prior. I know dubious when I see dubious if it’s s natural talent I really don’t know, I remember sometime ago I wrote somewhere on how to spot UPE, it was so mind blowing told me expressly to remove it less I inadvertently teach them how to BEANS, & I replied Kudpung telling them that BEANS or not they weren’t getting away with it. In the end I removed this method because of the respect I have for him, I mean he is the original anti UPE editor and wrote and created NPP thus my respect for him is more than words can explain, forgive the digression Timtrent what I’m trying to say is that it is my belief or opinion that  isn’t genuine, I might be wrong but that is how I feel, I’m recusing myself from that discussion. Celestina007 (talk) 22:02, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the kind words, Celestina. Would one of you please consider running for adminship to plug the hole I left? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:58, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , it really is flattering to hear you say I should RFA but I think I gave (One of our finest at anti spam) the reason I’m reluctant to, perhaps our friendly neighborhood anti spam editor  can change their views on adminship and RFA. Celestina007 (talk) 18:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I must apologise if I gave you that impression Celestina007, its most certainly not the case 😊 ~TNT (talk • she/her) 18:41, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * @, I could have sworn this was a nudge for me to consider RFA. Celestina007 (talk) 18:50, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I completely misread your message above Celestina007, I am so sorry! I thought you were suggesting that I wouldn't want you to run! ~TNT (talk • she/her) 18:59, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , I figured as much, here’s something funny, yesterday I took pain killers due to my knee injury and and I remember the doctors expressly telling me to just go to sleep immediately, I figured I’d just do some minor work on Wikipedia, I swear to you I was trying to converse with and it seemed like rocket science to me, my brain couldn’t just coordinate properly, if you ever want to laugh please  check my contribs, I think I made every spelling and grammatical error ever known! I felt so ashamed of myself this morning re-reading them😂. On a more serious note it’s a shame after almost a year the reason I couldn’t RFA then is still the same reason I can’t RFA now, someone needs to be a “sysop without the tools” in order to combat the dirty game of UPE. Celestina007 (talk) 19:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to change my own views, my friend. I find the checks and balances by my not being an admin are better for Wikipedia. Have the minor disadvantage of not having admin goggles, but that is trivial. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:51, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Chukwudi Onuamadike (Evans)
Last year we had some discussions on my user talk page about whether the page Chukwudi Onuamadike should be moved to a title such as Evans (kidnapper). I understand that Evans was indeed convicted of kidnapping (see, for example) last month. So if you want to move the page to Evans (kidnapper), I believe that would be appropriate now. If you do so, please make sure to update the lead so that it says that he is a convicted (instead of "alleged") kidnapper. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:11, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, I do remember the conversation. I was going to decline this, because in the back of my mind, I felt like doing do so would be interpreted as doing a controversial page move but seeing it was just you who expressly wanted it to retain its current title(now previous) and now that you are asking for it to be moved, it doesn’t appear so controversial (at least to me) Alright then I shall proceed as you have suggested. Celestina007 (talk) 00:27, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , ✅ thanks for bringing this to my notice. Please do stop by more often. Celestina007 (talk) 00:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)