User talk:CentrOS

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Godcasting
Please note that this article has been deleted yet again and the page is now protected from re-creation. You wrote on the article page, "To not have an entry for Godcasting shows an anti-religion censorship by Wikipedia and I think this might be best brought to the media's attention." This is not censorship; the article was deleted appropriately in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy, primarily because the term is a neologism and no verification up to the standards that we require has been provided. If in fact the term has made it into the mainstream, you should cite reliable sources on Talk:Godcasting and I and other administrators will re-evaluate and restore the page. If you feel the deletion has been out of process, please visit Deletion review and make your case there. Regards,  howch e  ng   {chat} 07:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

"Vandalism"
Please be careful what you call "vandalism". A content dispute, even when you strongly disagree, does not warrant calling your opponents edits vandalism. Friday (talk) 18:06, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I understand where you're coming from. But vandalism has a specific meaning in wikipedia terms.  See Vandalism for more info.  Friday (talk) 18:22, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries
I noticed you've been putting ' ~ ' at the end of many of your edit summaries. You don't need to 'sign' your edit summaries, your name and the time will always appear in the edit histories of any page :-) --Malthusian (talk) 10:27, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Who the hell made you God?
My votes on WP:DRV count just as much as yours do, despite your contention to the contrary. Note that proper DRV process is to wait five days for a vote to finish, you did not do so. If at the end of five days, the decision is made that the article be undeleted, it is also policy to list it at AfD immediately, as was done. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:42, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

My vote counts as much as anybody else's does, making your vote 5-2, not 5 to 1. I could have said, "keep deleted because I don't like the editor", and my vote would still have been valid. And don't ever edit my Talk page using such confrontational language again. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:50, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Lots of people like me. The right people. The people who are here to make valid entries to an encyclopedia, not vandalize it, and not the people pushing an agenda. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:52, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Take a deep breath
Two things that you need to know.

Firstly, you've had the roughest welcome of any new editor I've ever seen (admittedly I haven't been around forever). It won't always be like this.

Secondly, don't let other editors incivility bait you into responding in kind. Civility is one of the five pillars of Wikipedia and violating it will never reflect well on you. --Malthusian (talk) 23:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that the article has been 'trashed'. Ben gave very detailed reasons for the edits he made (under 'Let's clean it up') at the article's talk page. If you don't agree with him, reply to him there.

Remember the warning on every edit page: "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it."

Try not to let the unnecessary hostility some editors showed to you and 'your' article prejudice you when someone makes changes that are actually well-intentioned and well-thought-out. --Malthusian (talk) 20:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

*shrug* I don't think I'm going to be able to change your mind. Wikipedia's collaborative style isn't for everyone; it's in human instinct to defend what we create. Maybe if you'd had a more forgiving welcome it would have better disposed you to it, but the past is the past. We're certainly not going to change our policy on ownership of articles to win 'respect' from 'scholars' or anyone else.

For what it's worth, thanks for the contribution you've made. It got there in the end. --Malthusian (talk) 22:55, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you should try to forget that you created the original article, and imagine how a casual reader would see the Godcasting article as it is. It still says what godcasting is, what godcasting can include, and that the Pope has a godcast (which I think cements its notability). That which Ben cut out mainly consisted of speculation and statistics on how popular godcasting is. Perhaps he went a little far - Godcasting is obviously a growing market so some mention of that might be relevant - but the essential material is still there, and you were the one who researched and wrote that.

The reason I'm saying this is because I want you to stay here. You write well, can back up what you write, and obviously have some knowledge that can benefit Wikipedia (my own begins and ends at Scandinavian heavy metal albums). All you have to do is accept that some of what you write will be removed or edited, and that doesn't mean that people don't value your contributions. Personally, if someone edits my articles, I'm happy - it means that someone cared enough about what I wrote to to improve it. --Malthusian (talk) 02:41, 15 January 2006 (UTC)