User talk:CentralTiger74

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Edits to Arkansas Razorbacks, Arkansas State Indians, Dunbar Magnet Middle School
Welcome to Wikipedia! Some of your information provided on Arkansas Razorbacks, Arkansas State Indians, and Dunbar Magnet Middle School were removed for several reasons or has an unreferenced tag has been placed at the top of the article. Some of your edits did not follow Wikipedia's core policies and have been reverted or changed. The policies that were not followed include: neutral point of view, no original research in articles, and verifiability. To prevent an edit war, if you questions about the reverts made, please respond back on my talk page. Please remember to observe Wikipedia's core policies. Reorion (talk) 03:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I was part of that class at dunbar, so I know how it felt and how the true story went. And the Arkansas and Arkansas State article is true about Arkansas never playing Arkansas State in football.


 * Even if it was true, you still need to follow Wikipedia's policies. Your edits need to have sources backing up your claim and has to be notable enough to be listed in Wikipedia and include a neutral point of view. Reorion (talk) 21:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry about argueing, but there are no sources that explain about Dunbar, but that's why I am trying to put the article up there. So people can read it and know about it. And about Arkansas and Arkansas State, Arkansas never says anything about it, because they are afraid that people will want to watch them play. They want to avoid the subject.


 * The Wikipedia inclusion standard is verifiability, not truth. Even if something is 100% true, if you cannot back it up with reputable sources, it will be considered original research and will be vigorously removed from Wikipedia. We don't want to waste your time or our own, so I encourage you to find a reputable source that you can cite. If there isn't a reputable source, I'm sorry, but the viewpoint (even if true or reasonable) does not belong in Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a soapbox, not a blog, and not a forum; it is an encyclopedia. Thanks. Jonneroo (talk) 05:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Arkansas
Division I is divided into Division I-FBS (the division with Arkansas, Virginia Tech, Washington, LSU, etc) and I-FCS (Appalachian State, Delaware, Northeastern, Sam Houston State, etc). There are hoards of "division I" schools that are in the same state and don't play. As for "division I-FBS", which is what I think you really mean, there are a handful of them that I can think of off hand that are not rivals and do not play against each other. UMD and Navy, for example, are the only two teams in Maryland and until last year, they had not played in 40 years. Syracuse, Buffalo, and Army are all in New York and they very rarely play each other and are not rivals. Middle Tennessee State has played Tennessee exactly once in history. Plenty of the California schools don't play each other. South Florida has never played the University of Florida. UAB has never played the Crimson Tide and has only played Auburn once. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples of schools that do not play teams in their state. --B (talk) 04:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

But in arkansas there are only two schools, is what I ment, and they have never played in the entire history of football.
 * That's a true statement. UMD and Navy are the only two Division I-FBS schools in Maryland and they are not rivals, but they have played football before.  One Wikipedia policy to keep in mind is no original research.  In other words, it's important that this detail be something that reliable sources have mentioned, not merely something that you are noticing in the schedule.  Arkansas St has only been I-A for 15 years so it's important to find a source that discusses that it is actually an Arkansas policy not to play ASU as opposed to merely that they have never gotten around to it in the short time they have been in the same division. --B (talk) 05:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Here are some websites that have opinions from people (and I have heard that Frank Broyles had a policy not to play schools from Arkansas; and I know he's gone as the athletic director, but he's still "volunteering" isn't he?):

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arkansas/114437-hook-em-horns.html

http://media.www.asuherald.com/media/storage/paper898/news/2004/02/05/Opinions/Hogs-Ignoring.Home.State-1767236.shtml