User talk:Cerasam

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Hello there!
Hey, and once again welcome to Wikipedia! I received your request for mentorship and I'm happy to say that I'd be glad to help you where I can. If you could tell me a little about your experiences with Wikipedia, the things you've edited and the people you've met along the way (don't worry if this is "nothing" and "no-one"!) and we'll get on with the business of learning how this place operates! Take care, nice to "meet" you, welcome again. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Help
Mary Cerasa Cerasam (talk) 20:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I am not really sure exactly what I am doing here, so I'm sorry if I am doing something wrong, but we had to start our first paragraph for our public policy topics, and I am not sure how mine sounds. I put it into my Sandbox but I do not know how to provide the references ( which are from Ebscohost) and I don't want to post it until I'm sure that it is okay. My topic is Media transparency. Thank you for helping!

Cerasam (talk) 19:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Check out Referencing for beginners-- SPhilbrick  T  19:54, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Cerasam. I think it's a very good start to an article, though not quite ready for mainspace yet. You'll need to put in some sources, and explain different aspects of the topic. Have you had citing sources on Wikipedia explained to you? I like your writing style though and I think this could be a great article. I see The Rambling Man is your mentor, did you consider asking his opinion? He's very good at such things too. I'm also one of the Online Ambassadors, so if you ever want another opinion on something you're working on, feel free to leave me a message at my talk page. (Duplicate of your other page, look how many people want to help you!)  Worm    TT   19:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You'll also want to check out the existing article: Media transparency. You might find that it works best to edit the existing article, and improve it. If your assignment is to start a new article, you'll need a different subject, as the article exists.-- SPhilbrick  T  19:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Your mentor is The Rambling Man? Wow, you are in good hands.-- SPhilbrick  T  20:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello! What's going on?  How can I help?  SPhilbrick and Worm That Turned have beat me here, (thanks you two!), but anything I can do to help?  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

(after several edit conflicts, LOL) For referencing, here is a short tutorial by Chzz supplementary to the one SPhilbrick provided (click on 'show'): {| class="wikitable collapsible collapsed" ! How references work

Simple references
These require two parts;


 * a)

Chzz is 98 years old.

He likes tea.


 * b) A section called "References" with the special code " ";

Named references
Chzz was born in 1837, in Footown.

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates
You can put anything you like between, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals.

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.
 * }

Consider using citation templates as well. (Another tutorial for that here:Referencing for beginners with citation templates)

For writing lead paragraphs (or 'lede' in American spelling), this might help you as well: WP:LEAD. Good luck.-- Obsidi ♠ n Soul  20:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

You know, that fact I have to fight to help someone really makes me proud to be a wikipedian. I'll duck out, I think you've got enough help and I have really important time to waste. Worm   TT   20:14, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Amazing, that in the short space of a less than an hour, so many good, experienced and, most importantly, kind editors come here to help! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:16, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you to everyone for all of your help! My teacher is making me put my paragraph onto the actual Media transparency page which I am nervous about.... I recently added more to my paragraph and attempted to cite my work. I am still a little confused but hopefully will make more improvements soon! Cerasam (talk) 19:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't be nervous, and if you're confused about anything, leave me a message. I may not be able to respond instantly but I'll do my best! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Mainly I am unsure if I have included the references properly...I tried to put them on the actual page, but they look different from the previous one so I'm not sure if I have done something wrong... Cerasam (talk) 19:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, well firstly you don't need to add as the existing Reflist template does the job of listing out all the references. The references you have added (the ones with really should be added into the main body of text next to the prose they are referencing.  The way you've added them at the moment, they're more like external links.  Have a look, and let me know what you think. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Feedback
Hi Mary. Just thought I'd pop by to give you some feedback on your recent edits, so I'm looking at this diff (a diff shows the change from one version of an article to another, this one includes your eight edits to Media transparency):
 * 7/8 of your edits had an edit summary, good work but try to make it 8/8. You can set a reminder in your preferences if you think that'll help.
 * You have added a lot of text (good!) but do look to see if some of it can be "wikified" i.e. adding useful links to other articles which may enhance a reader's experience.
 * Good to see you using references, but try to use a cite template like cite web as well, this provides good, consistent formatting and once you get the hang of it, is easy to implement.
 * "ensure it's effectiveness" grammar fail! That should be "ensure its effectiveness".
 * Don't mix date formats, you have "2 August 2010. Retrieved on 2011-2-15", this should either be "2 August 2010. Retrieved 15 February 2010" or "2010-08-02. Retreieved 2011-02-15" but not a mix of the two.
 * The two refs you've added under the "references" heading are really "external links" or "general references" so should be in another section. Have a look at John Wark (a featured article and see how the references section is split in general and specific.
 * You don't need to add the tag, the reflist template does that for you.

Hope these help, feel free to get in touch with me if you have any specific questions or queries. All the best! The Rambling Man (talk) 13:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Update
Hey Mary, I hope all is well. I've just been looking at the Media transparency article and thought I'd mention a few suggestions:
 * 1) The lead is big, it really should be a summary of the article itself rather than contain a considerable part of the article.
 * 2) Avoid linking common words like education, these are commonly known to regular English speakers so there's no need to link them normally.
 * 3) WP:HEAD gives advice on how to format section headings. You have a number of headings with non-proper nouns capitalised, this should be avoided.
 * 4) Not sure what the difference between a "Case Study" (should be Case study) and an "Example" is...
 * 5) The "See also" section is massive. See WP:SEEALSO for some hints on what's expected here.

Feel free to give me a shout if you need any specific help. All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 17:45, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Mary. Just popping in to say good work with your edits so far. Is there anything you need any particular help with? I would recommend that you find more references for the Media transparency article you've been working on, just four for that much prose is a not really adequate. All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 17:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

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