User talk:Cerejota/Archives/2009/August

Opinion request
When I first wrote the Flag of Puerto Rico article years ago, it was titled "The flags of Puerto Rico" and was intended to be just that, an article about the flags of Puerto Rico. However, with time someone (who made a mess with the edit history) came along and changed the title to the current one.

I am thinking of two options per consensus.

1. Leaving the current title, "spliting" the article, keeping only the story of the "Flag" and it's evolution and creating separate articles about the "municipal" and "political" flags and have them interwiklinked in the "See also" sections.

or ....

2. Changing the title back to "Flags of Puerto Rico", its original title and keeping the article as it is, which would be less troublesome.

or ....

3. Just leave it as it is. Your thoughts will be highly appreciated. Tony the Marine (talk) 01:25, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Tony, I was WP:BOLD and changed it back to the original name. Que me caigan chinches, sin co***** me tiene ;) --Cerejota (talk) 15:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * My brother, you have my 100% unconditional backing. It was the right thing to do. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm going to re-write and shorten some of the introduction. I'm going to start off with this opener which I believe sound just about right:

"'The flags of Puerto Rico represent and in some cases symbolize the believes of it's people. The most common used flags of Puerto Rico are the current flag which represents the people of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, municipal flags which represent the different regions of the island, political flags which represent the political believes of the people and sports flags which identify Puerto Rico as the country represented by it's athletics during competitions.'"

and work everything else into it. How does it sound to you? Tony the Marine (talk) 19:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Run a spell-checker ;), but besides that I like it.--Cerejota (talk) 21:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

2012 Election Need Your Feedback
I noticed you were a regular editor on the 2008 election page. Myself and other editors are odds on some edits we are trying to make to the page. Since you have already been involved in probably similar discussion, we would greatly appreciate hearing your feedback on the 2012 election discussion page under the Republicans and Ruled Out discussions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Republicans.3F

David1982m (talk • contribs) 20:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC).

Criteria
This is in descending order of importance.

1) Must have been a community member for at least four years or so. Sorry, but it does matter to me that you are a committed individual that have seen the growing pains.

2) Must know more than one language - WMF handles dozen of languages, and while the linguafranca is English, the intelligence and cultural awarness that comes with learning languages is very important. If someone is so incurious to not be a polyglot, I probably do not want in the board.

3) Their statement -lets see what they are saying.

4) Gender balance - Gave preference to the single female candidate. Call it affirmative action, but she meets the above criteria.

5) Non-angloamericans over angloamericans - Also affirmative action. Systemic bias needs to be countered at all levels. The internationalization of views and funding sources helps with that.

Candidates will probably not get a vote from me if they do not meet the first three criteria, with the third being a subjective evaluation (ie if I like, they get a vote). The fourth criteria is automatic #1 as there ar eno other female candidates. Criteria five means I vote for the non-angloamericans first. All things being equal its the statement that decides.

Actual vote

 * Kat Walsh (mindspillage)
 * Ting Chen (Wing)
 * Domas Mituzas (Midom)
 * Samuel Klein (Sj)
 * Ralph Potdevin (Aruspice)
 * Jussi-Ville Heiskanen (Cimon Avaro)
 * Gerard Meijssen (GerardM)

The rest are "8", with two exceptions: The Far-right activist which is blank, and Relly Komaruzaman who did a really crappy statement and so got "9".

The vote was easy for Wing, who us the most solid candidate pound for pound, and Kat the only woman, but it was hard choosing the rest, but I do want to rank instead of blend the middle votes, because I do care.

The Far-right activist
Kevin Riley O'Keeffe (KevinOKeeffe) is a Far-right activist. But there is no way to not vote.

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 * Nice balance. Only one question: Did you make sure that all the candidates you voted really gave reliable information? Because, as far as I am concerned, Aruspice's register was not in 2004 but in 2007. Furthermore, he was warned against giving such wrong information and still decided to keep it. This contradicts your criteria. I found Aruspice's behavior a little bit dishonest. He didn't even answer to most of the questions. Finally, a couple of users who you didn't include in your list speak at least more than two (even three) languages and have had the confidence of their communities. This is only my opinion, --79.145.23.234 (talk) 21:37, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Dear, Cerejota. I respect your decision but I disagree with you in that: 1) you gave preference to candidates with at least four years of experience (however, Aruspice's register in 2007 doesn't meet this requirement); 2) there is at least one candidate who speaks over three languages (English being one of them). Since you shared with us your criteria, I would like to share mine with you. I strongly agree with you concerning both Relly and the extremist candidate. Nevertheless, when it comes to the Spanish candidate, I find his speech persuasive. I find it close to Wing's aims, indeed. There are some differences regarding language and short-time priorities but they have a similar POV. Both respect diversity, both advocate for small projects and both are dialogue defenders. With all this I want to say that I support Wing, Walsh, Klein and Gongora's candidacies because I find them reliable enough. Apart from this, in my opinion, a user doesn't need to be 4 years in a project in order to be really trustworthy. I know many users who have been blocked several times for disruptive behavior and all of them are supposed to have been involved with WM since 2004 or so. What I appreciate is someone who has been able to achieve the confidence of his/her community/ies. In this sense, an user who has been part of the ArbCom for one year, who has been administrator and bureaucrat for at least more than 2 years and who has recently been appointed as checkuser in another community, deserves all my consideration and respect. I know that perhaps I cannot be neutral because I am an active user on es.wiki but this is just my opinion, which doesn't intend to reflect a reality nor influence your wise and, as I said above, respected and personal decision. Kind regards from, MiguelAngel fotografo (talk) 23:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

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ANI stuff
You may be interested in Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents Why ? Well, if you look at the 3rd paragraph starting 'A year and half ago' for some reason brewcrewer has decided to use 2 diffs linking to comments you made. I thought someone should let you know. Personally I thought it was a very odd decision given that Tundrabuggy was subsequently identified as being a returning banned CAMERA group editor. Anyway, whatever.  Sean.hoyland  - talk 04:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

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Sorry so late in saying welcome!
I am really glad that you added the Article rescue squadron template to your user page, I am not sure if anyone welcomed you before, so I am taking the opportunity to welcome you now.

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 * Sorry it took so long to say welcome, even though you had the box forever!
 * If there is anything I can do to help you out, please let me know. I have been here for 4 years now, so I know how things are supposed to work, and how they unfortunately really work :)Ikip (talk) 23:49, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the warm welcome ;)--Cerejota (talk) 01:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope to see you soon. Best wishes, have a great weekend. Ikip (talk) 01:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Fantastic pictures
You have got to check out the fantastic pictures of old-Puerto Rico here:. The good thing is that the majority of them are pre-1923, when there were no copyright laws and can be used by anyone in our project. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:12, 28 August 2009 (UTC)