User talk:Cesdeva/Archive 1

Invitation for WikiProject India/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2014
Hello! I see that you've joined our assessment department. I invite you to take part in WikiProject India/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2014 if you're interested. We started in November 2014 and were supposed to finish by the year end but unfortunately, there were very few of us and as of now, we've completed 65 percent with a slow and steady pace. I hope we finish it as soon as possible and need all the help we can get. Oh, and barnstar awards are handed out at the end of the drive depending on your score. Sincerely, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:07, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Asian 10,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like South East Asia, Japan/China or India etc, much like The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Asian content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon which has produced near 200 articles in just three days. If you would like to see this happening for Asia, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Asia, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant! Thank you. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:27, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Re-initiating INCOTM
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Re-initiating INCOTM
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Invitation to join the Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Incubator/Indian military history
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Wiki Loves Indian defence services
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Purba Bardhaman district
Thanks for the interest you have shown in the article on Purba Bardhaman district. I will shortly get back to the points raised by you. - Chandan Guha (talk) 15:30, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Cheers Chandan Guha. I don't normally leave comments on talk pages its just that as you know there is a lot of potential in the article(s). Bifurcations can be a pain, heck i remember the headache that the Andra Pradesh/Telangana situation gave me. Cesdeva (talk) 18:06, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I have revised the Purba Bardhaman district, as best as I could. Please have a look. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 22:52, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red World Contest
Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India)
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It is being planned to organize Wikigraphists Bootcamp in India, please fill out the survey form to help the organizers. Your responses will help organizers understand what level of demand there is for the event (how many people in your community think it is important that the event happens). At the end of the day, the participants will turn out to have knowledge to create drawings, illustrations, diagrams, maps, graphs, bar charts etc. and get to know to how to tune the images to meet the QI and FP criteria. For more information and link to survey form, please visit Talk:Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Supporting Indian Wikipedia Program resource distribution
In 2017 - 2018, the Wikimedia Foundation and Google working in close coordination with the Centre for Internet and Society (CIS), Wikimedia India chapter (WMIN) and user groups will pilot a program encouraging Wikipedia communities to create locally relevant and high-quality content in Indian languages. This program (Code name: Project Tiger) will:
 * (a) Support active and experienced Wikipedia editors through the donation of laptops and stipends for internet access and
 * (b) Sponsor a language-based contest that aims to address existing Wikipedia content gaps.

The objective of the program is to provide laptops and internet stipends for existing editors who need support to contribute more actively. 50 basic model Acer Chromebooks and Internet stipends for 100 contributors are available for distribution. Provided resources are the sole property of the beneficiaries and should be used for the betterment of the movement.

If you're an active Wikimedian, and interested to receive support from this project, please apply. It will take around 10 minutes of your time, and will ask descriptive questions about your contribution to Indic Wikimedia projects.


 * Apply at: Supporting Indian Language Wikipedias Program#Apply for support
 * Last date for submitting applications is 11th February 2018, 11:59 IST.

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Discussion made on Rajahmundry Talk page
Thanks for the discussion on the Rajahmundry talk page but I am just trying to present fact regarding the name change which occurred officially and also I accept that this clearly didn't go yet into all the people's minds. Just trying to understand on how does this work and also when do you think that this kind of change can be reflected in wiki page? -- Kind regards, Sagavaj (talk) 16:42, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. So basically once the name 'Rajamahendravaram' is used the most often in reliable sources (as defined by WP:RS), then we are able to change the name of the article. The amount a term (or name) is used is called its 'weight'. I can't say when this will happen and it could take years. I know it is frustrating.


 * 'Official' is a subjective term. What one person sees as 'official' might not be seen the same way by another person. A good example would be the American revolution, which I am sure you are familiar with. The people of the 13 colonies didn't see the British as 'official', but the British believed they themselves were the 'official' authority and ruler. It's all about viewpoint and Wikipedia takes a neutral viewpoint. I hope that clears things up. Kind regards, Cesdeva (talk) 17:21, 20 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi. I get that official is a subjective term but the real question is that do we need to take local people opinion or majority people opinion? You can see in all Telugu articles (which is the local language in that city) and among local people using that name but it is not yet common with English speakers as I mentioned in the talk page previously that they didn't yet get into the name completely. I know this since I am from that region. So, you say that this still has to stay because majority people still weren't able to get used to that name? Again, I know that whenever Wikipedia speaks about reliable sources, it always sees the sources in English since it is however gonna be the English article. Anyway, I am not gonna support further in that wiki name change and I don't know exactly the process to be continued next and would be helpful if you could help me in that. -- Kind regards, Sagavaj (talk) 17:52, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Also thanks for the helpful opinions regarding the matter. -- Kind regards, Sagavaj (talk) 17:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Once consensus is certain then what will probably happen is nothing much. The discussion will just go stale. The term 'Rajamahendravaram' will likely be removed from the article's infobox and the lede will be reworded to be more neutral. The usage in the article has to reflect the title.
 * Reliable sources are often newspapers and these tend to be at least regional and often national. Perhaps the broad coverage diminishes the weight given to local usage. I don't know how   reliable sources determine what name to use. Another editor will likely know. Cesdeva (talk) 20:04, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * @Sagavaj . Just so you are aware, an uninvolved editor may turn up and close the page-move discussion on the Rajahmundry talk-page. They will summarise the consensus and might place a protected template over the discussion. This isn't always the case as sometimes it's hard to find someone to do this. Cesdeva (talk) 20:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, I did notice. I think I did paraphrase it. The point is the sources of information (also the amount of information) are so limited. How to tackle this? No matter how much you paraphrase, the content, by virtue of its size, will appear to be copyright only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anom1987 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The section I removed was identical prose and copyvio. I've mainly left the tag up while I contact an admin to revdelete the revision history prior to the fix. It shouldnt take too long.


 * I understand your point about limited sources, and I can see that you've paraphrased to an extent, but the remaining prose can still be worded better.


 * I have an edit window open from earlier as I was converting the refs to cite-web templates, so I'll see what I can do with the prose while I'm doing that. If you hang tight for a bit we'll avoid edit conflicts.


 * Thanks, Cesdeva (talk) 19:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC)


 * and then i found a tonne more copyvio... Cesdeva (talk) 22:00, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

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Article on Indu Malhotra needs edits
Hi, Indu Malhotra article needs serious editing. Is there a way to collaborate with editors working on India related articles. Anom1987 (talk) 19:22, 29 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, yes.


 * If you need help (or want to someone to collaborate with you) you can post a message at the bottom of this page. It's the India Noticeboard and many editors from Wikiproject India will see your note.
 * Make sure you link to the article using square brackets like this 'Indu Malhotra' and mention that it's a BLP (Biography of living person) article. When there is unsourced material on a BLP article then that is also a legal issue.


 * Things have been a little quiet there lately but someone might help.


 * If you have general questions about how to do something then you can ask at the Teahouse. They are very friendly and helpful and there is usually someone around to help.


 * I'm always happy to help too but I'm having issues with my mobile phone at the moment so I probably won't be able to respond or edit during the next few days.


 * You can also ask individual editors on their talk page (like you already did here).


 * Hope that helps.


 * Kind regards, Cesdeva (talk) 21:23, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

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WikiProject Portals Overview, May 04, 2018
Thank you for being a member of the Portals WikiProject, and thank you for all the work you have all been doing on the portal namespace. To see the activity, check out the watchlist.

This is our 3rd issue, see previous issues at the Newsletter archive.

Top priority: Main list of portals needs updating
The top, and one of the most visible parts, of the portal system is Portal:Contents/Portals, which is intended to list all (completed) portals on Wikipedia.

About half of the missing existing portals have been added since this WikiProject's reboot (April 17th). Thank you to RockMagnetist, TriNitrobrick, Polyamorph, PratyushSinha101, Ganesha811, Bermicourt, Javert2113, Noyster, Ɱ, Lepricavark, XOR'easter, and Emir of Wikipedia, for working on this.

We are half-way to completion with this. We need everyone to chip in until it is done. Instructions, and the list of missing entries are at Portal talk:Contents/Portals.

I hope you'll join me there. ("Many hands make light work").

Thank you.

Membership
We're at 66 members, with more joining daily. We even have 6 WikiGnomes!

Special thanks
I have awarded Certes with a portals barnstar on his talk page for his work on the new excerpt templates that are revolutionizing the portal system (Template:Transclude lead excerpt & Template:Transclude random excerpt). If you'd like to show your appreciation, please feel free to stop by his talk page and add your signature to the barnstar itself.

Thank you Certes. You are enabling this WikiProject to get the right things done, fast.

By the way, the templates have already gone international. After being told about the templates, Mossab wrote:

"Thanks You very much!. Those are fantastic and great templates! I transferred them to Arabic Wikipedia and they do a magic great job. I worked to improve portal anatomy here and i do every thing i can to improve it and i am very sad for the nomination for deletion of portals :(. I am glad to be member on WikiProject Portals and i added my name with pleasure. Kind regards"

RFC
As you know, the (April 8th) proposal to delete all portals and the portal namespace inspired the reboot of this WikiProject. RfCs typically run for 30 days, which means there are 5 days left including today, before the RfC will be closed. The !votes are predominantly "oppose", but many editors have shared their disappointment with the portal system. We have our work cut out for us in correcting the problems of the portals to address their concerns. Complaints ranged from being out of date and lacking maintenance, to taking up the time of editors that they felt (due to low traffic) would be better spent improving articles.

Anti-WikiProject drama
This past week has been somewhat stressful for me, with more than a little conflict...

It culminated with my being reported at the Administrator's Noticeboard "for spamming and canvassing". This is the second time I've been reported there during the RfC; the first one was for posting notices of the deletion discussion (the RfC) at the top of all portal pages.

The accusations were 1) Posting notices of the deletion discussion (the RfC) at the top of all portal pages, 2) Adding an Article alerts section to the Portals WikiProject page, and 3) posting notices (invitations) about this WikiProject on user talk and portal talk pages.

None of which fall under the Wikipedia definitions of spamming or canvassing.

Thank you, Lionelt and Lepricavark, for coming to my rescue. I don't know how the discussion would have turned out if you had not spoken up.

The discussion was closed as "no action necessary".

After that, the person responsible posted their thoughts to my talk page. Here they are, with my response:

"Congratulations, it appears your relentless targeted advertising of the RFC, your beating the RFC Supporters with a stick by posting countless times there, your dishonest insistence that Current Events was on the chopping block, and your obstruction of clean up efforts at MfD are paying dividends. Have fun playing with Portal space where no one will read your work. I'm sure someone will eventually clean up the mess when your interest wanes. Cheers. Legacypac"


 * Thank you. I accept your congratulations on behalf of Wikiproject Portals and the portal-loving community – it was a team effort. In addition, I'd like to clarify some things about your claims above...
 * Each page nominated for deletion must have a notice at the top of its page, per the deletion guideline. Not to have one there, would be unfair to those who use such pages, and would constitute a secret deletion tribunal. We don't do things that way on Wikipedia.
 * As new facts became available (e.g., a motivated and thriving WikiProject to support the portals, new building blocks, etc.), it was appropriate to post the developments to the RfC, to support informed decision making.
 * Proposals are literal, not figurative. The proposal specified "all portals". All means all.
 * The fact is, the rebooted WikiProject is cleaning up the mess, rather rapidly. By updating and upgrading the portals, rather than getting rid of them.
 * I think I'll be hanging around for awhile, but the project is more than likely to achieve critical mass and may outlive us all, due in part to the development of tools to assist editors in building, upgrading, and maintaining portals that are fully dynamic and self-updating.
 * Portals are more fun to work with than ever. Thank you for your role in making this happen. You made us try even harder, and inspired us to pull together as a team. You'll have a warm place in our hearts, forever. The Transhumanist

Automatically refreshed excerpts
The main advancement we've made so far is applying selective transclusion Transclusion is template technology, showing a page on another page. Selective transclusion shows only part of that page. We use it to show excerpts that always match the source. The two templates we have so far, are Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.

Obsoleting subpages
Excerpts are migrating toward the base page of each portal, and where this is done, a subpage is no longer needed.

Template:Transclude lead excerpt will be able to be used to put the intro excerpt directly on the portal page, rather than on an intro subpage, once we adapt a portal design to accommodate this.

Template:Transclude random excerpt is currently being used on 1st-level subpages, and eliminates the need for 2nd-level subpages. (Many portals have 2 levels of subpages).

There are about 1500 portals, but there are around 148,000 subpages in portal space. Further discussions are needed to develop designs and components that do not require them.

It is my hope that the portal of the future will be a single page, or close to it, pulling in excerpts from specified dynamic sources (like category pages), filtered by ratings. This would obviate the need for subpages at all (except for maybe the header and footer subpages, which store a portal's settings). A more likely near-term solution would be subpages with a list maintained by a bot, or editors using semi-automatic tools.

New portals
Since the reboot, a new portal has been created:
 * Portal:Limited recognition

Please watchlist these pages
Some central pages in the portal system. The more eyes on them, the better.


 * WikiProject Portals
 * User:The Transhumanist (there's a fair amount of portal project traffic on my talk page these days)
 * WikiProject Portal/List of all portals/Page 1
 * WikiProject Portal/List of all portals/Page 2
 * WikiProject Portal/List of all portals/Page 3
 * WikiProject Portal/List of all portals/Page 4
 * Wikipedia:Portal:Portal Example portal. And funny.
 * Portal:Contents/Portals
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Culture and the arts
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Geography and places
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Health and fitness
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/History and events
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Infobox
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Intro
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Mathematics and logic
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Natural and physical sciences
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/People and self
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Philosophy and thinking
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Portal nav footer
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Reference
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Religion and belief systems
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Society and social sciences
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Technology and applied sciences
 * Portal:Contents/Portals/Topic

Wrapping up...
There's more in the works, like a rating system, further redesigns, etc. Keep an eye on the discussions on the project's talk page. They should start showing up there soon.

Hope to see you there. Sincerely,    &mdash; The Transhumanist   06:22, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

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Shortcut to WikiProject Portals is WP:WPPORT
The shortcut to its talk page is WT:WPPORT. &mdash; The Transhumanist  09:47, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Portals update, 11 May 2018
We've grown to 73 members, and morale is high. Thank you for joining. Here is some news, and some tasks...

The RfC will be closed soon...
2018-05-11: preparations are being made to close the RfC. See Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure.

When there, be sure to notice the consultation link.

We're trying to get a prototypical single-page portal developed in time to show the RfC closers before they make their final decision. You can help. It's Portal:Humanism. So far, we've applied selective transclusion (automation) to excerpts, and have made the following sections without subpages: intro, selected article, selected biography, categories, related portals, wikiprojects, things to do, and wikimedia. Eight down, 4 to go, plus 2 formatting subpages (not sure we can migrate those). Automating every section, would also be nice.

Main objectives
Our main objectives currently, are:


 * 1) Replace static excerpts with selective transclusions, so that the excerpts always stay fresh (that is, match the source content). We are now doing this on the portal base page as much as possible, to reduce the number of subpages that are needed. See #2...
 * 2) Migrate the functions of subpages to the portal base pages. There are around 150,000 subpages in portal space. We aim to make these obsolete by using templates and other calls from the portal base pages.
 * 3) Improve portal design to make portals self-update. Semi-dynamic sections update from a static list, as used in Transclude random excerpt. Fully-dynamic sections would update from a list maintained elsewhere on Wikipedia, like a category. We haven't found a way to do this yet, other than to create a bot (which we will probably need to do).

Maintenance pass #1: Upgrading the intro section
The intro section of many portals transcludes an "Intro" subpage that has an excerpt in it.

We're replacing that with a selective transclusion directly in the intro section, bypassing the subpage. Though, there's a little  more to it...

For instructions, see: WikiProject Portals.

Please skip Portal:American Civil War, as that is specifically being maintained by hand.

Maintenance pass #2: Obsoleting the Wikimedia subpages
One of the sections on many portals links to sister projects on the subject. This needlessly takes a subpage. The subpage can be made obsolete by using the template Wikimedia for portals directly on the portal base page.

This has been done for several hundred portals so far.

See WikiProject Portals for instructions.

Maintenance pass #3: calling the category tree from the portal base page
Certes figured out how...

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For more information, see the thread WikiProject Portals (it does now).

More to come...
In the meantime, see ya around the portals! &mdash; The Transhumanist  15:20, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

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Linked images
Hi, I was wondering if you'd give me your opinion on using linked-images as buttons within Portals? I've quickly drafted a few here and they don't look too bad. What do you think? Thanks, Cesde v a  (talk) 23:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * They look nice. I don't get the economy one. Is the garden metaphor a reference to Being there? What are the copyrights? Are they commons images?  Concerning their use, I am curious how you plan to use them. They are links to articles rather than to other portals.  What section would they go in? Just curious.   &mdash; The Transhumanist   04:02, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I released the images under CC-zero, as I manipulated my own unpublished photographs instead of an attributable commons image. That's the limitation here.


 * The links were just arbritrary. They could, as you said, be used to link to other portals. Alternatively they could link to a sub-page, which is what I was thinking. A portal for a state for instance could have buttons linking to sub-pages that have a transclusion of the lede of 'Economy of X' or 'Religion in X' et cetera. I know that sub-pages aren't trendy at the moment though.


 * I've never seen that film, maybe I should. The seedling was a subtle reference to Gross Domestic Product. I have pictures of some beautiful old German paper money, but I didn't have the energy to look into the copyright surrounding making derivates from that.


 * I'm intent on eventually overhauling Portal:India, which despite being a 'featured portal' just repeats the same lede on it's subpages and has lots of fluff lying around. Perhaps I'll make some buttons for there and we'll see how they look/function. I figured out that the 'cell-padding' is what causes the India portal to needlessly render so massively. Cesde v a  (talk) 09:08, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps it was some markup on a sub-page causing it. I can't remember now lol, it was a few days ago when I was fiddling around and noticed it. Cesde v a  (talk) 09:22, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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Signpost interview on WikiProject Portals
Hello! I would like to ask you a few questions about WikiProject Portals for the WikiProject Report in the upcoming issue of the Signpost. The questions can be found here. Feel free to leave feedback or further information! Zarasophos (talk) 16:11, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

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That 'tadpole' on the reference desk.
Hi, just to let you know in case you hadn't seen it. I have posted the correct answer. Best to you. Richard Avery (talk) 09:59, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 May 2018
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Hey...
Any feedback you would like to provide would be most appreciated. Do you have any suggestions on how the newsletter may be improved? &mdash; The Transhumanist  01:14, 25 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't have any suggestions sorry, I enjoy reading the newsletters however. Cesde v a  (talk) 19:59, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I just read your interview in the Signpost...
Thank you for your kind words. Sincerely,  &mdash; The Transhumanist   02:22, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

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Well, that sucked
JlJ001 was one of the main participants. Too bad he turned out to be an LTA. :( I'm not sure if we should want him to come back in a different guise or not. Strange case. :\  &mdash; The Transhumanist   20:01, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm at a loss for words really. He was invaluable and great to work with. Cesde v a  (talk) 22:49, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Portals/Newsletter archive
I can't believe you said that. :)

Hurry up and get AWB access, so you can help us out. There is a ton of stuff to do.

There's far more AWB work than I can handle (see my recent contribs for AWB edits). I've been posting notices, sending newsletters, portal base page editing, placing templates, etc. There is so much, I have no life! And I haven't even scratched the surface. The Associated Wikimedia sections on portals are taking run after run.

Here's an example of some of the AWB work we need done...

You don't have to wait for approval to start using AWB
Don't take that statement out of context. :)

AWB has many features that you can use without being logged on or registered.

So, you should install it, and start familiarizing yourself with its interface.

Some of the features that work without being logged in include list maker, list comparer, and its database scanner. All very powerful, and worth having the program just for any one of those. The filter feature (built into all three of these features) is especially nice.

I very frequently copy/paste lists made in AWB to sandbox pages, then convert the lists to links for processing via search/replace, then process them using tabs, etc.

Working with lists is one of the two main skills needed for using AWB effectively. The other is regex, which is also supported in WP:wikEd. &mdash; The Transhumanist  01:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

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Enjoy. &mdash; The Transhumanist  07:58, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

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Mobile viewing of the portals
Dear Cesdeva,

You mentioned your concern over mobile device accessibility of the portals.

How much of the portal system have you tested?

What have you found so far?

What do you recommend for the Flex columns template?

Flex columns is used on the following portals:


 * Portal:Scotland
 * Portal:Western Australia
 * Portal:Australian roads
 * Portal:Limited recognition
 * Portal:Monaco
 * Portal:Lithuania (this portal also has excerpt slideshows)

I look forward to your reply. &mdash; The Transhumanist  17:36, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

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AWB task request: please help with the backlog
Hey...

If you have AWB laying around, please dust it off and crank it up! ;)

We have a growing backlog!

There are now portals. Of those, are of the new design.

Many of the new portals are orphaned or near orphaned, and need links pointing to them:


 * 1) A portal link at the bottom of corresponding navigation footer template. E.g., Template:Machines for Portal:Machines. See examples of a portals link at the bottom of Template:Robotics and Template:Forestry.
 * 2) A Portal box in the See also section of the corresponding root article for each portal. If there is no See also section, create one and place the portal template in that. (Rather than placing them in an external links section -- they're not external links).
 * 3) A Portal template placed at the top of the category page corresponding to each portal.

To make a list of corresponding templates, you can use AWB's make list feature to make a list of the pages in Category:Single-page portals. Then you copy that list to a sandbox, and replace  with  , using WP:wikEd. That will give you a list of templates to work on. Then you set skip in AWB to skip the ones that already have the portal link.

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To make a list of category links to process, make sure you use a leading colon in the category links, like this:.

All new and revamped portals can be found at Category:Single-page portals.

Thank you. &mdash; The Transhumanist  20:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

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How well do portals work on mobile devices?
What's needed? &mdash; The Transhumanist  15:05, 13 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi, User:The Transhumanist. It's been a while since i was working on this, or even on Wikipedia. As far as what's needed, if there are any issues then using media queries in JavaScript or CSS would allow for different content to be displayed for specific viewports (in this case for mobile users). Depending on the issue, it could be fixed locally (courtesy of TemplateStyles) or fixed across the whole of the Portal space by amending mediawiki.css.


 * There is already precedent for the latter, as an amendment to the site-wide CSS was required to get the 'two collumn' layout to work.


 * I'm not sure how this would affect users of the Wikipedia app; which has a unique way of handling and displaying things.


 * Cheers,


 * Cesde v a (talk) 18:21, 13 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Interesting. Thank you for the details. The new portals use Template:Flex columns. Is that template mobile compatible? How do those portals display on your mobile devices?  &mdash; The Transhumanist   22:55, 13 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I took a quick look at the template. It looks like it should handle narrow viewports just fine. Cesde v a  (talk) 00:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you.  &mdash; The Transhumanist   07:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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Re: Hindi sources
From Talk:Mustafabad,_Haryana, lots of sources in Hindi which I can't read, so I'm going to sit this one out, suggestion in the first part of this post might help. --Titodutta (talk) 03:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks but I already use Chrome's translate feature. It was failing to translate several of the websites for some reason.  Cesde v a  (talk) 04:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

OD template
I corrected the indents per WP:INDENT and added a missing od template at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics hope you dont mind.-- D Big X ray ᗙ  13:57, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you User:DBigXray, I know I missed a colon at one point and forgot to correct it. I wouldn't have worried about the OD template though; i normally outdent at roughly six colons and find it obvious enough. It can cause a little snaking in protracted discussions, but typing ten or eleven colons in a row is one of the most soul-destroying experiences available to us as a Wikipedia editor. (If using a mobile, the alternative copypasta+1 technique is like threading a small needle while simultaneously trying to find Waldo in a book that's floating inside a fish tank stocked with a large shoal of red and white koi carp.) Cesde v a  (talk) 15:26, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * haha, I can understand the feeling. cheers. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  16:17, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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Re: AfC submission: Draft:Kingston, Glasgow
Hi, I replied to your email, but I'm not sure if you received it, so here it is again with a couple of additional comments:

I'm already struggling with Wikipedia and this is becoming hard work. Kinning Park has its own entry and is next door to the left of Kingston. Tradeston has its own entry and its a smaller district next door to the right of Kingston. So Kingston clearly deserves its own entry too. Kinning Park, Kingston & Tradeston are all listed as districts in the Govan Ward, so why is Kingston the only one without its own entry? Why does this have to be so difficult?

Thank you

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What you received wasn't an email from me; it was an email notification from the Wikimedia servers. Basically if you reply to that, it won't reach me.

I'm sorry that you haven't felt supported enough in the Articles for Creation process so far.

Your logic about the districts has some merit.

One reason for the cautious approach so far is that since 2006, the Wikipedia page Kingston, Glasgow has existed as a redirect to Tradeston.

I'm going to invite User:Curb Safe Charmer to this discussion, so we can figure out a way forward.

Also pinging User:Mais oui! in case they want to weigh in about the redirect. Although they don't appear to have been active for a year. Cesde v a (talk) 00:22, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.17


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 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


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 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
 * Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019
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This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon. There are now holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action. Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays. Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox. Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards. Admin has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers. Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources. Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13. The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights. There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion. To opt-out of future mailings, you can remove yourself here MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:33, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Getting the queue to 0
 * Coordinator
 * This month's refresher course
 * Tools
 * It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
 * It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
 * Reviewer Feedback
 * Second set of eyes
 * Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
 * Do be sure to have our talk page  on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
 * Arbitration Committee
 * Community Wish list

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New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
 * Reviewer of the Year

Special commendation again goes to who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to and  who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by.
 * Redirect autopatrol

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
 * Source Guide Discussion

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag. Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
 * This month's refresher course

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New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020
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The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.
 * Source Guide Discussion

New to NPP? Looking to try something a little different? Consider patrolling some redirects. Redirects are relatively easy to review, can be found easily through the New Pages Feed. You can find more information about how to patrol redirects at WP:RPATROL.
 * Redirects


 * Discussions and Resources
 * There is an ongoing discussion around changing notifications for new editors who attempt to write articles.
 * A recent discussion of whether Michelin starred restraunts are notable was archived without closure.
 * A resource page with links pertinent for reviewers was created this month.
 * A proposal to increase the scope of G5 was withdrawn.

Geographic regions, areas and places generally do not need general notability guideline type sourcing. When evaluating whether an article meets this notability guideline please also consider whether it might actually be a form of WP:SPAM for a development project (e.g. PR for a large luxury residential development) and not actually covered by the guideline.
 * Refresher

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 7095 Low – 4991 High – 7095

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May 2020
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Donald Trump, you may be blocked from editing. ― Mandruss  &#9742;  20:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * As an editor, thank you User:Mandruss for reverting vandalism. As a human, why revert? Don't expect silence while the suffering persists. Cesde v a  (talk) 20:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a platform for political statement and protest, and certainly not by vandalism of its articles. Keep that up and expect to be indefinitely blocked in short order. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  20:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Mandruss There is no politics. This is your fellow humans being murdered on cold concrete. Wikimedia is looking positively white supremacist if it doesn't make a stand against police brutality. Until Wikimedia stands against the horror, i'm sure editors who aren't robots will be making similar edits to me. Again, thank you for your work. But seriously, look less at the policy pages and more at what's happening around you. Cesde v a  (talk) 20:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

No one said destroy bro, just utilise in a small way. Cesde v a (talk) 20:55, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Cesdeva, are you suggesting that the best way to fight against ignorance and bigotry, is to destroy an educational reference work? And replace it with Hitler jokes? How would that help anyone? Stop this now. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:53, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Have you stopped to ask "what if everyone did that?" Wikipedia would be destroyed, yes, in a few days. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * One could argue that my edits made this resource more educational. Have a good night; I'm not going to make any more edits tonight, promise. Cesde v a  (talk) 21:03, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. But I don't think you literally believe that File:Adolf Hitler Berghof-1936.jpg is a picture of Donald Trump. That's not "educational"; that's childish. And your edits to United States only teach the reader that someone, somewhere on the internet, feels strongly about something. What if instead they read Police brutality in the United States? Maybe then they'll come to agree with your position. But they'll never get to that page if at the top of every article there's someone shouting in ALL CAPS about whatever they think (perhaps rightly) is a worthwhile cause. A final note. If you put something similar on your user page, that might be argued to be a violation of WP:POLEMIC. But it's not one I will personally bother reporting. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:21, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Cesdeva, I've blocked you indefinitely for vandalism as it seems likely you will continue your vandalism campaign. Any admin can feel free to unblock if Cesdeva indicates they will stop vandalizing. Hopefully by morning you'll realize that vandalizing Wikipedia will not in any way help end police brutality. Galobtter (pingó mió) 21:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * And I've unblocked, as 3 vandalisms from a 7-year-old account in otherwise good standing is not worth an indef. --Golbez (talk) 13:34, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure you understand the meaning of indef. Galobtter clearly said the block could be lifted if Cesdeva agreed to stop vandalizing, a very reasonable position. If Cesdeva declined to do that – and every indication they've given here is that they believe their vandalism was not only forgivable but righteous – a permanent block would be preventative and warranted. By unblocking, you've unnecessarily complicated and prolonged the situation. Now we have to wait and see whether they continue vandalizing, and most of us have better things to do. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  15:37, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm quite certain I know the meaning of indef, considering I was an admin nearly a decade before you even joined Wikipedia. I was about to block Cesdeva myself, but they were done for the night - blocks are preventative, not punitive. They hadn't vandalized since their last notice, and made no indication they were going to resume. An indef block of an account in otherwise good standing who made three vandalisms hours earlier helps no one. I unblocked based on Galobtter saying "if they indicate they will stop vandalizing" - they had, by ceasing to vandalize before the block was implemented. --Golbez (talk) 16:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No. They said, I'm not going to make any more edits tonight, promise. Emphasis on "tonight". They gave zero indication they would stop after tonight, they said absolutely nothing to indicate that they now understood that the vandalism was wrong, and in fact they repeatedly defended it. Under those circumstances the behavior does not have to be happening at this precise moment for a block to be preventative. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  16:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You are free to reblock if you like, otherwise this conversation has run its course. --Golbez (talk) 16:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not an admin, which of course means I have no power here. I was merely trying to reason with an editor who does. You're right about this having run its course. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  16:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Pardons, I was getting you mixed up with Galobtter. --Golbez (talk) 16:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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