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Rebuilt FP7s
See Don Strack's webpage here http://utahrails.net/ajkristopans/FREIGHTCABUNITS.php#heading_toc_j_8. Both C&EI 1609:1 and CGW 116C were destroyed in 1951 wrecks. The units were traded in to EMD and the usable parts were used to build new units on new frames. New frames are new units. Following reused serials of traded-in units:

(13560) 10/51 (8000) Chicago Great Western 116C

(7544) 01/52 (8003) Chicago & Eastern Illinois 1609

A J Kristopans data from EMD Product Data Cards. --SSW9389 23:48, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

See Talk page here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:EMD_FP7 --SSW9389 23:50, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

The cost of the repair to 116:1 equals about 85% of the cost of a new unit. A new frame was included in all 8000 order number series EMD rebuilds. The CGW got essentially a brand new unit 116:2 with a 15% trade in credit. The data conflicts between CGW sources and A J Kristopans and Don Strack. --SSW9389 11:33, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

You need to write this as a separate paragraph, "CGW 116-C was damaged during the head on collision at North Hanover, IL on June 2, 1951. On June 6, 1951 the locomotives involved in the wreck were photographed at EMD on CGW flat cars.  The 116-C was not cut up onsite and loaded into gondolas.   No records are found declaring the 116-C was then a trade-in to EMD. The trade-in program at EMD did not start until 1952 after the 116-C was repaired in October 1951.  116-C was repaired on EMD order 8000. (Note: The 8000 number series contains repaired locomotives by EMD). No documentation exists as to the details of the repairs and what was re-purposed.  EMD repaired the 116-C locomotive with a finish date of October 1951.  CGW documents from 1952 and later do not indicate a change in the In-service date, nor indicate a serial number change that would apply only if the locomotive was new. Errors as to the total number of new EMD locomotives built 'emphasis added' contained within Wikipedia as the definition to what is classified a repaired locomotive vs. a new locomotive. A repaired or rebuilt locomotive containing the same original serial number is not a new locomotive and should not be reflected in the total number built." And not edit a Talk page on Wikipedia. Rebuilds on new frames have been traced back to the first quarter of 1949 with Cotton Belt FTA 920D. And possibly others before that. SSW9389 10:10, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

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