User talk:Chacor/Archive 04

Dude...
Chacor, sorry, but you gotta calm down a bit. This is a community after all, and several people are getting a bit annoyed. While it's alright being bold sometimes, no one person has more authority over anyone else. It almost seems like you're taking things a bit too seriously, with all the rule mentions. True, we have several policies, but your constant reminders of civility are getting a lot of people annoyed. Take a chill pill ;) Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting vandalism to my page. --Nlu (talk) 19:28, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Can this do
Can this source do for the article on Typhoon Xangsane? - Deogene 07:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Accuweather.com
Is the website www.accuweather.com a spamsite ? This is used by FOX News on their news service to report on the weather. Does it rate a article here, just as the Weather Channel does ? Martial Law 22:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * AccuWeather, article already exists. &mdash;Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:44, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Appreciate the assisstance. Martial Law 00:58, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Xangsane
I've finished the preparations section. Feel free to look it over in case I missed something. I'm gonna head to bed now, so I'll work on impact later today if I have the time. --Core des at (talk) 08:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Typhoon Xangsane
FYI you forgot to undelete the prior versions of the article and corresponding talk page after the move. – Chacor 14:05, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The main article had a minor history, one that's not worth keeping (it was simply a redirect). The talk page could possibly be called minor (it's debatable) but I've restored it anyway. — Mets 501  (talk) 14:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It wasn't simply a redirect (one single edit); rather there was a prior version that was merged into the main article for the season. Not sure, but I'll defer to you, but personally I would restore it. – Chacor 14:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see what you're saying. It was only a one line thing, but I've restored it.  History merging is not really preferred as it can create problems, is impossible to undo without a developer, and produces incorrect diffs, however. — Mets 501  (talk) 14:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

"Strange edit moving text"
Sorry about that. I don't know what happened. (I'm on a slow PC right now.) :-O 1ne 16:40, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey Chacor,

Why is my entry being deleted by you from the Get The Picture page?

Bill

Merge notice
Your articles on Typhoon Joan (1970) and Typhoon Dot (1985) are currently a Start-Class hurricane article, and is being proposed for a merge. If you wish to to keep the article, you should state your thoughts on the article's talk page, or consider expanding the article. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Need help
As per Tropical Disturbance Advisory Number A11 issued from RSMC NADI issued on Dec 28/0831 UTC 2002.

The Tropical Cyclone ZOE 04F Minimum Central Pressure was [890hPa] located near 12.5S 169.5E at 280600 UTC. with Maximum 10-minute average winds near the centre estimated at 130 Knots.

Should I go ahead and edit article on Cyclone_Zoe?

I have downloaded a file Tropical Disturbance Advisory Number A11 issued from RSMC NADI from ftp site.--Ugaap 16:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Alberto image
Umm, the image you removed from 2000AHS: is from NASA and was taken by a NOAA satellite, that's as public domain as it gets. There is nothing resembling a copyvio here. -- § Hurricane E  RIC § archive 00:34, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * This is a research and educational use of it. It's not a commercial use. We're not selling it to anybody. Plus, who's going to take us to court for it anyway? The Government and NASA have better things to do than sue Wikipedia for using a playing-card-sized image on a page deep in the bowels of the Wikipedia database. A whole bunch of Commons guys I've run into pitch a fit over fair use images even, which is allowed under United States law. I could go to whoever owns the rights, get a signed statement saying we can use it and they would still go nuts and start having panic attacks. They sweat over the hazy fine print, I prefer to use what's between my ears. -- § Hurricane E  RIC § archive 04:44, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Face a block for what? Using common sense? We're not selling this image to anybody. There are some people who may try to steal images off here. They get sued because they're the jerks. We're providing a page for research. Now I know that we should try to avoid providing a medium for idiots to be idiots but I always have considered this a little drastic. As for free images, very few images come without fine print. Also, threats are just words until they are enacted. Now, I'm not going to pitch a hissy fit over some stupid picture, I'm just saying that fretting over its usage is silly. -- § Hurricane E  RIC § archive 05:07, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey, I don't break the rules. I will bitch about them occationally ;) but I won't break them. This is me not agreeing with it. And please don't say deal with it. This is how I deal with it. I'm actually in a good mood and I'd like to stay that way. It's just a picture. Why should I get in a twist over it? It's not like we're losing a crown jewel. -- § Hurricane E  RIC § archive 05:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * However I dont know why SeaWiFS images are copyrighted since they are the product of NASA which is a US federal government agency (the website ends in .gov) and thus PD and Eric stated above that the image was taken by a NOAA satallite. Is NASA contradicting themselves? or is it just us. Storm05 16:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Cyclone Mala
I had checked that archive but RSMC advisories for Tropical Cyclone Mala are incomplele and nowhere could I find the maximum wind speeds as well as minimum pressure for this Cyclone. Your posting of the minimum pressure for Mala 954 [hPa] is from RSMC as per your edit. Isn't there any other source we could get data for RSMC New Delhi?--Ugaap 16:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Please be more careful
Please be more careful when reverting. – Chacor 17:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Seriously, the second I opened history to verify... my laptop auto-hibernated because the battery was at 2%. Sorry...--Anaraug 17:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Hurricane categories
Sorry. Still thinking about this. A "consensous" built on the foundation of a lack of response, is really no consensous at all. And a "consensous" to violate standards and (what appears to me to be) common sense (Tropical Storms placed in Hurricane categories) just strikes me as wrong. So I'm still thinking about all this. - TexasAndroid 11:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If you want to, I will not edit war over it. You may consider the issue closed, but I do not.  But I have no idea how to properly proceed from here.  I'm sorry, but your "consensous" just is not one.  But in the face of screaming apathy to the issue, I don't know where to go next for a real consensous.  And I still have the problem with the fact that, IMHO, standards for categories say that it should not be done this way in the first place.  Yeah, it says there are exceptions, but nothing I have seen qualifies this situation for the exceptions.  And, as I have argued a couple of times, the idea of haveing storms that failed to reach Hurricane status in "Hurricane" categories just flat out strikes me as violating common sense.  Shrug.  But I'm not sure how to proceed from here.  Anyway, I have to leave for work.  Do as you wish at this point. - TexasAndroid 11:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No consensous, no. But standards that say they should not be there, yes. - TexasAndroid 12:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

extratropical redir
My apologies for that - I wasn't thinking. --Crimsone 11:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Yomangani's RFA
How embarassing. Thanks for pointing it out and letting me take care of it. --Storkk 16:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Gary Kirk's RfA


Double voting
Wow, I didn't notice those. I just Ctrl + F and I didn't see my name anywhere on the RfA pages. Nish kid 64  14:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: Stuff
Hey, thanks for tweaking my userpage; didn't know that formatting trick existed. Thanks for the offer, but I am going to respectfully decline to be a part of cyclone or meteorology Wikiprojects. I am more into US History right now and just happened to stumble across that article. Civil Engineer III 14:52, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/katieh5584
Hello! Don't forget when removing withdrawn/failed RfAs to complete the process and add,  to the top and bottom of pages respectively and to list the RfA on Unsuccessful adminship candidacies. Regards, (aeropagitica) 15:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Shanshan
Hang on, this article is not ready for merge yet, I might add more info when the TCR on the storm comes out. And dicussion of moves should be on the talk page of the article requested to be moved not on the main RM page. Storm05 17:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * So?, theres lots of tc articles out there with a paragraph preps section. Storm05 17:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Im not talking about the JWTC TCR, im talking about the Gary Piddget TCR. Storm05 18:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And most of the info isnt redundant. Storm05 18:01, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Unoffical for wind speed and pressure but not for damage. Storm05 18:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Even so, theres still more info out on the internet that I havent added to the article, lots of people report damages in USD not just Padget. Storm05 18:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, i worked to hard for this to be merged (I dont know why (or how) the sudden mergist movement began on this project to begin with because i thought we put the anti-article creating nonsense behind back in '05) but theres still info out there waiting to be added. Storm05 18:18, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Even if the western pacific is not the atlantic, I still hold my belief (as well as hink, HurricaneCraze32 and others) that every storm deserves an article. Storm05 18:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

why so?
Why i am not allowed to add a quote when the wiki founder himself has encouraged to edit his user page? Mahawiki 06:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding your removal of the sprotection banner on Batt_Reef
While I understand your concern, could you please check the talk page and the history page. We've been doing a lot of work that a protect would fix. I'm unable to find the rule that only admins can add a sprotected to a page, could you please direct me to that rule. Please leave instruction on my talk page. Mark1800 12:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, I got that one wrong, sorry! Thank you for the info. Any idea how to get a friendly admin to block IP's Mark1800 13:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Heh
Blame WordPress no I :) -- Tawker 17:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Haze
Hi I have cited the source it is a NASA picture Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

FYI
Hello :-) There has been long term harassment of User:Mantanmoreland by sockpuppets and meatpuppets. If has required Oversight of many pages, including AN/I, on more than one occasion. Can you help me keep watch and keep this off of AN/I? FloNight 11:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, revert on sight. Nothing today requiring oversight, I think. In the past there have been claims of posting personal information with external links with similar claims and taunts. In the past admins that reverted and deleted posts had strong allegations leveled against them about covering up for finacial fraud and other Weirdness. Attempts to identify admins IP address through fake Wikipedia links sent by email. Other types of off site harassment of admins in the usual places. So beware of emails and on and off site stuff if you want privacy. Thanks for your help. :-) Take care, --FloNight 12:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Weekly Episode 3
Hi, and thanks for offering to help with the Wikipedia Weekly podcast. Episode 2 will soon be recorded and release, and so we've started planning for Episode 3, to be recorded next Friday. If you'd like to be on the panel, or suggest any content for the show, feel free to edit that page with the details. Don't feel limited to the five places on the panel, either - there are two extra places available for alternate hosts, who would fill in if the others are unable to speak.

Thanks again for the offer of support, and see you soon. :) Daveydw ee b ( chat/patch ) 11:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

A humble request for your opinion
Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. Recently, you expressed an oppose opinion with regards to my RfA. I would like to thank your feedback on this but I need another critical feedback from you. If you could spare a few minutes to voice any concerns you may be having with regards to my contributions to this project since my last RfA on this page, I would be most grateful. Once again, thank you for your time! -- S iva1979 Talk to me  06:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Areas affected discussion
I know Nilfanion's usage of WP:CHILL may have been inappropriate, but could you calm down at least a little bit? Wikipedia isn't a battleground, and someone asking you nicely to calm down is trying to assume good faith, not showing bad judgment. Besides, I made a suggestion that might be more of a compromise between "none" and "open ocean". --Core des at 18:36, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply
Thanks! Hehe, I do remember that. BTW, do you know when I should start sending out those thank-you messages? &mdash; Khoikhoi 03:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Cryoseism
Hi Chacor, could you copyedit my sandbox article (User:SpLoT/Cryoseism) when you're free? Thanks so much. -  SpLoT  / (talk) 09:00, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:db-owner
Thanks, I'll do that. →Cycl  one1 → 15:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Elonka
Thank you for participating in my recent RfA. Unfortunately consensus was not reached, and the nomination was not successful. I appreciate that you took the time to comment, as I do find it a valuable thing to understand how I am perceived by others in the Wikipedia community. If there is anything that I can do in the future to help further address your concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me. --Elonka 09:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

List of Hawaii hurricanes
I finally decided to clean up the page. Took out all typos and made sure every standard measurement had a metric conversion. Is it still a start? If so, what else is needed? I just thought I'd ask you specifically, since you added the clean-up tag. →Cycl  one1 → 01:36, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

"Associated" in Hurricane Gustav (2002)
That's what I assumed at first as well, but tell me if you see another verb in that "sentence", because I certainly don't. The only way to make that group of words comprehensible is to use "associated" as a verb. --Spangineerws (háblame)  15:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, maybe I'm missing something, but if "associated" is an adjective, there is no verb. And a sentence must have a verb; otherwise it's not a sentence (from sentence: "a sentence is a unit of language, characterized in most languages by the presence of a finite verb").  We could add "formed", "existed", "appeared", "developed"; anything.  "An area of disturbed weather associated with a weak surface trough and a stronger upper-level trough formed/developed/appeared between the Bahamas and Bermuda on 6 September."  Now, are you absolutely sure that "associated" wasn't meant as a verb?  That is, did you write this? I hope I don't sound patronizing; I just don't see what the disconnect is. --Spangineerws  (háblame)  15:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem =) --Spangineerws (háblame)  15:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA
Thank you for supporting my RfA that I have passed with 73/2/1.--Jusjih 09:26, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: WP:ENC
Hi. Thanks for putting a comment in my talk page. Yes, I realize that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and that it's often better to edit pages rather than use all my time posting comments in talk pages. I am currently working on Articles I have created. By the way, if my subpage becomes good enough, it might be turned into an article. I think i'll work on my articles now. AstroHurricane001 15:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Your comment
Mets shows no interest in following policy. It's one thing for him to ignore me when I tell him that his actions aren't allowed, but this was discussed at AN/I. He participated in the discussion. And yet he continues to ignore policy, ignore a discussion on AN/I, and has now taken to attacking me. I don't care whether he chooses to attack me or not - this isn't about me. It's about an admin who refuses to accept either policy and pretends that the consensus on AN/I somehow doesn't apply to him. Guettarda 01:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey Chacor (I still have to stop myself from calling you NSLE), thanks very much for reverting my talk page last night. I really appreciate it. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 05:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hildanknight and the "arch-nemesis" comment
Hey Chacor,

I read your comment on about Hildanknight's "arch nemesis" comment on his Talk Page and also on the Esperanza proposals page.

You are well within your rights to take offense but I'd like to ask for some compassion and understanding. Hildanknight is a 15-year old high school student (male). He has done some good work here at Wikipedia including a new program (Requests for Feedback). Howeveer, he has also made some mistakes including some inexcusable vandalism that caused him to get blocked. I do think he needs to be "cuffed about" a bit to teach him some Netiquette but go please go easy on him. His heart is in the right place even if he does get a bit carried away at times.

In particular, his "arch nemesis" comment seems to have been motivated by a sense that you were stalking him and biting him. Please give him a chance to air his grievances and try not to bite back too hard even if those grievances may seem more imagined than real to you. We were all 15 years old once and some 15 year olds see life with more drama than others.

--Richard 10:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hurricane Ernesto
I'm not sure if this is in bad form or not, but I have replied to your comment at my RFA, and perhaps you can read over what I have brought up about the Hurricane Ernesto (2006) fuck up :P—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 10:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Fire
Chacor, when I created the "memorial" along with the other section headings, I was following the precendent of the Cedar Fire article, which has a similar section. I understand that Wikipedia isn't a place for personal memorials of many sorts, but in this case, I was simply following precedent.Regards, Daysleeper47 13:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Your recent change to WP:RFA
I reverted your change in procedure to WP:RFA and brought it up for discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship. We should at least discuss this on WT:RFA before making the change. Personally, I don't think we should be making the requirements to have a success RfA even more restrictive than they already are. --Durin 13:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nominators can and do list other people's nominations. It's not all that unusual. Reason; some nominees are not denizens of RfA and do not know how to list the RfA properly. They'd rather have someone who knows what they are doing at RfA do it for them. --Durin 14:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Re: revert; Given that I left a note on your talk page, and also started a discussion on the point at WT:RFA, I think this is a non-issue in this case. Observe the second sentence in the second bullet point of Rollback where it says "In other words, try to consider the editor 'on the other end.'" I did. :) --Durin 14:46, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:User page headers
Hmm, you may have a point. I'll do that. Does it matter which admin? Or can I ask any admin? →Cycl  one1 → 00:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks. →Cycl   one1 → 00:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Unblock
Please see my message; here, and here. Regards Mustafa Akalp TC 09:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

You ARE NSLE?!?!?
Gosh, I thought you were just another new, friendly user! Why did you give up your old account? -- ¿¡Exir  Kamalabadi?! Join Esperanza! 22:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Eh ... The links on NSLE (e.g. NSLE) seem to link back to themselves. -- Ouishoebean 14:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Please Look Further Into This Situation
I replaced my link at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina because it is absolutely fitting in this location. It is an image that shows damage from Hurricane Katrina on a New Orleans landmark. I placed it in a section called "Images" on the Hurricane Katrina page. All other images in this section are similar. Also, please see my message about the first time my link was removed. I replaced the link because I received no response when I attempted to discuss it with the editor. Seotommy 16:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Florida photo
Whoops, must've made in error when looking at the picture. Storm05 15:57, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :)
Thanks for reverting that edit on my userpage. -  SpLoT  / (talk) 13:52, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, my laptop was used by someone else without my permission while I went to have my lunch. --Ter e nce Ong (T 06:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Your GA comments
Hi Chacor. Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately, several of us have tried discouraging Nathan from spurious nominations with little success. I removed Miami from GA nomination once before. He appears to be a young teenager who reacts to criticism with escalation. Hopefully having had two requests for arbitration rejected (one was against me over the above edit and related things) and being asked not to act as an advocate will help him to understand that he needs to focus on editing to improve articles first. If you have any helpful advice for him, he appears to be receptive to some people. Nathan is the only editor who thinks the Miami, Queensland article is important enough to receive significant work at this stage - I focus on South Australian articles and User:WikiCats is interested in getting the main Gold Coast, Queensland article up to a better standard (Miami is only a small part of that area). Thanks anyway. --Scott Davis Talk 07:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey Chacor, hope you don't mind me refactoring that...just had second thoughts about leaving it there indefinitely. Cheers mate, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 10:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Raul654 = benign dictator
I wouldn't call it a dispute, but I will try there first. Thanks for reminding me of it. Dev920 (check out this proposal) 11:04, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Highway's RfA
Thank you for your comments at my RfA, I'll try and take your points on board! :) H ig hway Ringo Starr!  11:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #6
The November issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter is now available. If you wish to receive the full newsletter or no longer be informed of the release of future editions, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

sorry
Ok sorry. But you do have to admit that page is fucking idiotic. !Policratus 02:09, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

RFA offer
If you still want an RFA, I would be happy to nominate you. Jaranda wat's sup 01:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks
 Thank you for participating in my RfA discussion! I appreciate you contributing your voice to the debate and its outcome. I hope how I wield the mop makes you proud. &mdash; Saxifrage

Re: My image
My error. I thought all NASA things were fine-my dumb error. I just put it up for Speedy deletion.Mitchazenia 14:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * All fixed-its gone.Mitchazenia 17:01, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Popups vs rollback
Heh. I thought there was something funny going on when i saw Tony Blair tagged as ... --Guinnog 14:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello, about User:Ed
Hello there! I'm an acquaintance of Ed who has gone on a long Wikibreak and I fear he may not come back. In User:Ed/Statement he left your name in a list of debates he had. As a fellow Esperanzian of his, I'm concerned. If it's not too forward, could you please let me know what's happened between you and he, and also anything about this user. Thank you.  Dooms Day34  9  18:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ahh... wow. I never even saw this side of Ed.  I pretty much get it; he was aggravated at administrators exerting "unfair" (in his eyes) power, over him, mostly.  If you promise to keep this between us, I think he's dead wrong.  I see this stuff all the time; "Oh, the big nasty administrator is not being nice!" etc., etc., just because they didn't get their way.  Yeah, it might be mean, but that's how I see it.  Whatever.  He was a fairly nice guy, to me at least, but if he plans on trolling like this I think we might be better without him...at least until he cools down.   Dooms  Day34  9  00:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Belated thanks
Hello Chacor, just wanted to thank you for reverting User:FairNBalanced's unfounded edits on my user page. Much appreciated. :-) (→ Netscott ) 02:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:ANI
Heh, you beat me to it BadCop 07:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC) (Ryulong)

Meetup on 24 November
Hello, please confirm yourself for the meetup on the 24th by November 18. If you have any ideas or suggestions, please list them at the meetup page yourself. Thanks. --Ter e nce Ong (C 04:16, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding hypothetical hurricanes
Dude, calm down, so now driving mew crazy at this. Cyclone1 gets to keep his own but you never let me do mine. And what's that resaon for? &mdash; Alastor Moody (T + C + U) 06:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You're real trying to hurt my back, aren't ya? &mdash; Alastor Moody (T + C + U) 08:35, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks! I'll do that. i'll tell Alastor Moody, too. →Cycl   one1 → 14:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, you already did. Ok. →Cycl   one1 → 14:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)