User talk:Chaerani

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Architecture Wikiproject
Hi, many thanks for all your architecture and design edits. I was wondering if you might be interested in joining WikiProject Architecture. Also we've been revamping the Architecture Portal and nominations to Portal:Architecture/Selected picture candidates and Portal:Architecture/Selected article candidates will always be welcome.--Mcginnly 08:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
How are you (apa kabar) ? And welcome to Wikipedia! Just to let you know, at the Indonesian WikiProject there are a group of editors collaborating to improve the articles related to Indonesia. We hope you can join us to make the project even better!

Here are some Indonesia-related project resources which may be of use:
 * Indonesian WikiProject
 * Indonesia Portal

Hope you find these useful. If not you can improve them, it's Wikipedia! Okay, happy editing and take care.

Cheers -- Imo eng  12:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Indonesia Collaboration
Hey there, I just want to ask for your suggestion. As we all know, there are just few "good" Indonesian articles, which means lots of effort is needed to improve them. What do you reckon about this collaboration plan? Please put any suggestion and respond on the WikiProject's talk page. Cheers, take care -- Imo eng  11:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Collaboration
The new collaboration page has been created. For now, it is a "collaboration of the week" with standard rules and stuff, which later we can decide for any changes. But now, lets start nominating articles (one article for each person!) and voting. Please take a look at the page. Cheers -- Imo eng  11:21, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Not toxicodendron
Hi Chaerani - sorry, I don't know what it is; I just know the genus Toxicodendron well enough to know your plant is something different (e.g. all Toxicodendron have compound leaves divided into 3 or more leaflets, your plant has undivided leaves). Try posting it on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants to see if any of the regulars there can identify it. Good luck! - MPF 00:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Indonesian Project
Gak papa kok, gak usah buru2, hehehe, tapi usahain juga. Soalnya kita lagi agak kekurangan orang nih, kan lingkup projectnya gede banget. Oke2, ditunggu yaa, hehehe. Cheers -- I  mo  eng  00:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Environment
Hi Chaerani, welcome to WikiProject Environment it's good to have you on board. --Alex 08:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Urbepedia
Maaf, lambat balasanku...

Urbepedia looks good. I'm impressed to see your article on the KIP there (could that be adapted to here as well?)

''my name is Meutia Chaerani from Singapore. I volunteered helped out in the Urbepedia at Urbepedia. It is a newly set up wiki focusing on Urban issues, and currently needing more contributors. I'd like to invite your participation in the wiki. Also need to brainstorm more on how the Urbepedia can be different yet complementing to information already existing in Wikipedia.''

We have faced the same issue at Appropedia. I have argued that "encyclopedic" material should not be encouraged - the less overlap, the better.

''At this stage, i'm thinking that Urbepedia would be more detailed and more technical, and also acts as repository of best urban practices from around the world, as well as repository of contact information of urban experts. Whereas wikipedia is aimed for a broader audience, the article should be easy to grasp to different kind of people, from kids to adults. In that sense, urbepedia is different from wikipedia, but of course, we can link both wikipedia and urbepedia together in the article page.''

Sounds good. Urbepedia could also allow things like original research (e.g. theses), articles or essays with a certain POV (and flagged as such), and project writeups.

We hope that you'd be interested to get involved.

Not right now, I'm sorry - I keep getting involved in things and never get my work done - and if I keep doing this what will I eat? :) But I will keep watching, and will probably get involved at some point.

I also like helping to link relevant wikis together, and I have listed it at Urbepedia. You may wish to upload the logo and link it there.

Salam... Singkong2005 talk 07:40, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Contribution from New Zealand
I'll look at Urbepedia from time to time. Robin Patterson 05:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Indonesian Wikibook
I would be glad to help with the Indonesian Wikibook. I cannot help with content because I cannot speak Indonesian, but I am more than happy to help with the naming of pages, organization, etc. -- Think Fast talk 21:37, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Java collaboration
Hi ! Starting today, the Indonesia Collaboration is Java. Come along and help make this an article worthy of the world’s greatest island. There’s a suggested to-do list on the the talk page to which you can add, or just pick a task. All sorts of tasks are required, Images, Citations, Research, Copy Edit; you name it, it needs to be done – this important article needs your help!! Regards -- Imo  eng  08:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

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Meetup on 24 November
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 * Hello, just a reminder for you to confirm your attendance for our meetup as soon as you can. Eight people have confirmed their participation so far. Couldn't reach you by e-mail, though. Thanks.&mdash;Goh wz 05:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Indonesia collaboration
Hi ! It's the last few days of the Garuda Indonesia collaboration. Please contribute!!!

Also, could you please vote for the next fortnight's collaboration? Please vote down the bottom of this page. The collab for the fortnight will be decided this Sunday 26th (or Monday at the latest). By the way, we could also chose Garuda Indonesia for another week.

So please visit and help choose the next article. Any questions/comments, please let me know. I'd love to hear from you particularly if you have any good suggestions! :-) --Merbabu 10:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi again, ! This fortnight we've chosen: >>>Majapahit Kingdom<<<. Please help in referencing, check my newly added headings, improve prose, diagrams, but most importantly is RESEARCH so we can actually grow the article. Any other suggestions for improvement, please leave on the article's talk page. Yes, please discuss on talk page!
 * Also, can you please post suggestions for the following fortnight's collaboration. Please leave your suggestions at the bottom of this page. Hopefully i will remember to remind you to vote in about a week (someone else remind me!).--Merbabu 14:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello there. For the next two weeks we have chosen >>>Indonesian War of Independence<<< for the Indonesia Collab. Also, please vote for the next fortnight. Maybe we should chose a stub article. So far, we have had already longish articles and they are therfore hard to expand. Here's a list of Indonesian underdeveloped articles:. Please let me know if you have any suggestions (or if you do not want me to message you about the collabs). kind regards --Merbabu 12:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Appropedia
I left a note at Wikia:Urban:Talk:Sustainable Cities about Appropedia and pages related to cities. --Singkong2005 · talk 07:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Indonesia collaboration
Hi there. This fortnight's Indonesia Collaboration is > > > Indonesian language < < <. Please contribute! Please nominate for the next collab here. What about choosing one the shorter Indonesia stubs this time? kind regards Merbabu 15:24, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Meetup
Terence Ong 14:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Indonesia - February Newsletter
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We hope it gets you interested in the some aspect of the project. Please contact Indon or Merbabu if you have any comments or suggestions (or do not want to receive this newsletter). regards Merbabu 08:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Environment barnstar
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Picture of the Week
&mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 19:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Indonesia slang
Hi, nice to see that you are still active. :-) Yes, I found the article in a really bad condition, full of can't-say-the-word words, so I removed them. The article should explain about the Indonesian slang in linguistics and social perspective, not about listing that kind of words only. I guess wikitionary is the best place to put them. Cheers. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 13:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Tristan Dowse
Thanks for the additions and update to the Tristan Dowse article - I followed this case in Ireland with great interest and am glad to see things seem to be working out. Bastun 11:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Foreign names
Hi, I removed your adding of the Indonesian name to some Disney Characters per WP:NOT since this is the English Wikipedia. Often those entries turn into lists and are almost always removed. See Articles for deletion/List of Disney characters' names in various languages. Cheers, Garion96 (talk) 21:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Cliff Muntu
Hi, I am English so I do not edit from a US-centric POV, so to speak. Try to add more sources and information if you want, I cannot Google at the moment. Gary Kirk  [Talk]  09:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, fine, but like I said I can't check it out at the moment. :) Gary Kirk  [Talk]  10:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

lumbantoruan
Several reasons: 1. It's my understanding that blog postings alone do not meet WP verifiability standards. 2. the Indonesion article is not in English, so it is not helpful in verifying the details for English readers. 3. the English news article referenced does not contain the same details.

Someone else fixed the footnote problem, but if you are still curious you can see it in the history. I will leave it up to others to decide if the Lumbantoruan paragraph stays this time. Sfmammamia 03:36, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response. It's clear to me from re-reading the articles that the situation was ambiguous, even in Coleman's various descriptions, but I see no reason to argue it further. I raised the question of blog postings on the article's discussion page. I suggest you check out the response there. If the item is verifiable through the news articles referenced, then the blog posting as another reference is unecessary, IMO. Sfmammamia 18:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Indonesia collaboration
Hello everybody. I’ve updated the current Indonesia collaboration to > > > Central Java < < <
 * New collaboration...

This article’s not in a very good condition but such a significant part of Indonesia, the cultural heart of the Javanese. Please contribute! Thanks to all those contributed to the previous collaboration Sidoarjo mud flow particularly Indon. For the next collaboration in a fortnight, I’d like to try something different. Let’s chose a stub rather than an already well-developed article. Here is a list of Indonesian stubs to choose (there’s two pages). Please check the article's importance rating – let's chose an important and significant article that will appeal to a broad range of people. Please do not choose an obscure and/or esoteric topic that is not very important. Please place your nomination here.
 * The next collaboration...

Any questions, please let me know. Kind regards --Merbabu 05:01, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Nial Djuliarso
I have added a "" template to the article Nial Djuliarso, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Jarfingle 20:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Nial Djuliarso
Hello, Oh, I had no idea! If he's notable in Indonesia that's fine with me and I'll remove the notability template. However, if this is the case, it seems that the article should note his popularity in India because his resume/accomplishments are mediocore at best for a U.S. jazz pianist and he certainly would not be considered notable by U.S. standards. Again, I'll remove the template (and thanks for letting me know), but if you get the chance and can add some information regarding his repute in Indonesia I think that'd improve the article vastly!

Jarfingle 06:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Absolutely, Indonesian jazz pianist certainly is a start but including some of the information you left on my talk page (e.g., "Djuliarso is notable in Indonesia, having released recordings in major indonesian label, have appeared in Indonesian TV shows, and covered by medias in Indonesia.") is not once mentioned on the page. And, if as you say, this is what makes him notable it would seem prudent to make note of this in the actual article...when you have time of course!


 * Jarfingle 20:56, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Minangkabau
Hi Chaerani, thanks for the food pics on the Minang article, they look very tasty. However, in my opinion it is best not to have more than 1 food related picture on the article to give a balance to the various aspects of Minang culture. They are also flowing into the religion section, which is inappropriate. Lastly, I have a concern they are not the best possible representation of uniquely Minang food. They are maybe best suited to a Minangkabau food article, something which doesn't currently exist. (Caniago 12:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC))

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Singapore Meetup 4 date changed
Hi Chaerani, you were originally invited to Singapore meetup 4. However, due to the lack of response, the date of the meetup has been changed to November. Please refer to this page for more information. -- ZhongHan (Email) 05:08, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Picture of the Week
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Indonesia fortnightly collaboration = Jakarta
Hello there, this fortnight's Indonesia project collaboration is > > > Jakarta < < <. Please contribute. The most important thing is to find reliable references for all existing information, and for any new info added.

Also, please help nominate an article for the next collaboration at the collab nomination page. An underdeveloped or stub article is preferred over a long and developed article. Please nominate up to two articles. any questions, please let me know. Kind regards and happy editing. --Merbabu 11:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Picture of the Week
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Meetup/Singapore 4
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Nial Djuliarso
Odd, I haven't deleted this article (nor have I considered deleting it). Someone put a PROD tag on it, and for some reason it went to DRV without being deleted. It's not at AFD, either. --Coredesat 11:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I didn't check the log. I only deleted because it had been an uncontested PROD. I had no idea about whether the subject was notable until the PROD was contested. --Coredesat 00:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I replied at my talk page
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Notability of Breastfeeding Mothers' Support Group
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Indonesian author
I was wondering if you had heard of Srie Agustina Palupi. Libro0 (talk) 05:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Jeremy Wagstaff


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Discussion at Talk:Sarah Azhari
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Proposed deletion of Ulil Abshar Abdalla


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