User talk:Chamal N/Archive 11

Note about request
Thanks for the comment but I am aware of WP:OWN. I was just politely requesting that no one edit it without at least checking with me first. I am glad however that you are making sure people are observing the policies. On the subject of the actual templates, what do you think? Regards, Gaelen S.Talk • Contribs 03:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries; I was just pointing it out, not warning you or anything. It's better if you give it in milder terms rather than asking permission, because not everyone takes kindly to that kind of thing :) I'll comment on the templates there later on. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 03:27, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I will go ahead and take it into account and change the question to one that is less confrontational.

Regards, Gaelen S.Talk • Contribs 03:54, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Anti-vandalism work
Hi Chamal N, just a heads up - don't forget to check the history for previous vandalism before you revert a change, otherwise you may be masking previous unconstructive edits. The history of the SK Sigma Olomouc page would show that there is a lot of vandalism occurring, so please make sure you just have a quick look at the previous edits too. Keep up the good work! --Cpl Syx (talk) 12:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're right. This is not highlighted in huggle so I missed that part. My fault, thanks for pointing it out. BTW, these IPs seem to have been vandalising that page for almost two hours now. Maybe you should consider about getting it protected? ≈ Chamal  talk 12:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've just filled in a request WP:RPP, just hope it doesn't take too long! :) --Cpl Syx (talk) 12:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Tamil version of Lankan National anthem
Hi friends. I want to Know is there any Tamil version of Sri Lankan National anthem. --BlueLankan 00:06, 8 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueLankan (talk • contribs)
 * I don't think so. What you get in books etc (I remember the school text books) is the sinhala pronunciation in tamil and english. See the constitution, where it says the national anthem is "Sri Lanka Matha". ≈ Chamal  talk 05:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No,there is an official tamil version of National anthem,called 'Sri Lanka Thaye'. Pasanbhathiya2 (talk) 08:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Really? I have never heard that. Can you provide a reference for this? ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 08:49, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Chamal,presently I can't give you a reliable reference on the net. I'll search for one. Anyhow, I know that,because nowadays "Sri lanka Thaye" is being printed on the text books. I hope this action took place,not in the recent history.It's rather old. Give me some time to find it on the net. BTW Keep up the Gud work.With regardsPasanbhathiya2 (talk) 12:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I believe you are right. See this article on Sunday Observer. I guess the government has not put that up on their sites yet. Thanks for the information, and happy editing :) ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 13:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Ane Chamal,you've been messing all around the net, but hasn't seen Sri Lanka Matha on the very page in Wikipedia. It has some information about that. With regards, Pasanbhathiya2 (talk) 13:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes but that one is unsourced. I thought that was just a translation. I didn't know an official version was there. ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 13:30, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

User:65.103.28.57
I just noticed the warning you issued to User:65.103.28.57 regarding his vandalism of my UserPage, and I thank you for taking that action. After warning him twice, I had lodged a complaint regarding his vandalism with AIV, but it was declined due to insufficient vandalism to warrant blocking. Although I am unconcerned by the nature of his threats in this case, I would like to know, for my future reference, if Wikipedia has a separate procedure for reporting such "legal threats". Please feel free to contact me on my UserTalk page with any additional information pertaining to this matter. --TommyBoy (talk) 11:10, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied at you talk page. ≈ Chamal  talk 12:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

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Anuradhapura Kingdom
hi -- I saw this is up for GA-review. One minor thing: can you put one of those "Script needed"-boxes on top of the article... I don't even know what font people would have to download to be able to read it.

...is it this one? >>>

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 * Yes, that is the one. I have added it. ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 10:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Help
Hello Chamal, this new editor is vandalising the history of Sri Lanka page be removing information that is necessary to the section, I reverted his vandalism, but he keeps on reverting it back and has been threatening to block me so I explained why I reverted his revision in Talk:History of Sri Lanka, he has not replied but reverted it back again. His next edits looked like personal attacks, including adding my name to Administrator intervention against vandalism stating nothing about my reversion but claiming my edit was highly racist and offensive in nature which it is not, and vandalizing my user page  threatening to block me. Could you revert this edit and tell him to leave the history of Sri Lanka page alone until he decides to add constructive edits. Thank you--Blackknight12 (talk) 04:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The reason he has given for removing information from the article is that it is unsourced. According to Wikipedia guidelines, what he is doing is not wrong. The best thing to do is to add a reference to this part. As for plain vandalism or intentionally disruptive edits, warn them after reverting. You can report vandals at WP:AIV or if they are editing disruptively in some other way (like persistently adding false info etc), report at WP:ANI. Or you can contact one of the admins listed at WP:SLR if there's a problem at one of those articles and if you need some help or advise with it. However the first step should be, as I have said before, discussing with the other editor. Familiarize yourself with this process, mate. You're dealing in an area where such things are common and you have to know how to deal with them. ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 13:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

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WP:Bird template
Hi Chamal: Your sandbox is currently coming up on the WP:BIRDS list of unassessed articles because of the project banner you have there. Any way you can comment block out the category, so it doesn't show up unnecessarily? MeegsC | Talk 12:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I made a change to the template recently and tested it out on the sandbox before adding it to the template itself. Removed now. ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 16:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! MeegsC | Talk 21:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK
I changed a word on the DYK for Words and Music, let me know if this is sufficient. --Lost Fugitive (talk) 05:17, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Oregon Bach Festival
Thanks so much for your comment on the DYK nomination for the Oregon Bach Festival. I addressed your concern and posted an update under the nomination. I appreciate it! Imaginesuccess (talk) 17:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

All systems go
If you're ready to take a crack at RfA, you've passed my review. Cheers,  Dylan 620  (contribs, logs)help us! 19:41, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, thanks :) I'll go for it when the noms are complete. ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 01:13, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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DYK & sources
Thanks for approving the Jan Pol article. Would you mind looking at the DYK for De Heidebloem, Erica (Aug 18) and commenting on the sources.I have also raised the issue of the sources at WP:RSN and would appreciate input there too. Mjroots (talk) 13:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I will have a look in the evening when I have time :) ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 03:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh well... looks like the RS problem was resolved by the time I got there. ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 10:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Partly, De Hollandsche Molens is deemed as reliable. Debate still ongoing over Molendatabase. Mjroots (talk) 10:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for George Leese
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 * Congratulations! Chamal, well done.--Blackknight12 (talk) 11:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys :) ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 12:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Congrats Chamal, good luck with the mop! -- Dylan 620  (contribs, logs)help us! 12:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
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 * Congrtulations, i missed the fun altogether :))Taprobanus (talk) 19:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Congrats Chamal! :D Cureden  19:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Congrats Chamal! Nice to see u with the mop. Hope you'll be a good admin. I still don't see the mop in your userpage!Change it! Here's my obedience to the newest Sri Lankan admin. OUR SRI LANKAN ADMIN! Great work Chamal,good luck! With kind regards, Pasanbhathiya2 (talk) 03:51, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! I've bumped you to the "willing to help" DYK admins; feel free to put yourself in "actively involved". Shubinator (talk) 04:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks everyone :)
 * @Pasan: Yeah, I should get that changed :) Being an admin is not such a big thing; it just gives me some extra tools. I certainly can't tell others what to do :)
 * @Shubinator: I'll probably watch and learn first for a week or so. ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 06:22, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

:-)
I picked the right time to get up this morning. Congratulations dude! Please do not go rogue, and be sure that you don't have any epic fails. Kthnx — Ed   (Talk  •  Contribs)  11:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ed. I was thinking of deleting the main page, but if you say so... :D ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 12:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It can't be done, why don't you try it and see? — Ed   (Talk  •  Contribs)  12:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, the oft successful "it can't be done, go ahead, try it" bait. :) Even though this particular asininity really can't be done anymore. Go ahead, try it. :-> Amalthea  13:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No thanks :) I'll try somewhere else. Maybe Jimbo's page :D ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 13:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Be careful! You already barely escaped being banned! &mdash; Sebastian 20:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Heheh... I don't think that applies for me :) ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:01, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * In IRC talk: /me slaps Chamal_N. — Ed   (Talk  •  Contribs)  12:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Nagadipa
I created this dissam page per my old suggestion to you and Blue Lankan. He can now work on the red linked article. Taprobanus (talk) 19:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks good :) I don't have a problem with that. I tried to find sources for this back then, but couldn't find anything so I'll leave it to BlueLankan to sort out. ≈ Chamal  talk ¤ 11:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

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Any others?
Chamal,who are the other admins from Sri Lanka? Could you please let me know? Thanks,with regards,Pasanbhathiya2 (talk) 08:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * None, actually. User:Snowolfd4 is an admin on the Sinhala Wikipedia, but I don't edit there. The only really active editors are User:Chanakal, User:Blackknight12 and User:BlueLankan. Two or three others edit from time to time. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 08:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

So,that's it!You are the only Sri Lankan admin! And Chamal,why aren't you editing at Sinhala Wikipedia? Hating mothertongue,or fogotton? Greetings!Pasanbhathiya2 (talk) 16:21, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm fluent in Sinhala, but not very comfortable with the Sinhala keyboard. It'll take me about a month to write one article :) I've been thinking about going there, but never really did. Time for another try I guess :) ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 02:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Of course!Time for another GOOD try! 'Ma basa hela basa,an kisi basakata, Me hisa nonamami nonamami kisivita' -Kumarathunga Munidasa- Pasanbhathiya2 (talk) 12:12, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I saw you at Sinhala Wikipedia. It's great! Of course I admit contributing is rather difficult there, but let's try! It's somehow interesting,ah?he!he! Greetings! Pasanbhathiya2 (talk) 18:09, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help
Thank you for your timely response to my question. I have implemented the code you gave me successfully on my userpage (as it turns out, I wasn't very far off the mark). Good day.  Intelligent  sium  18:53, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. You might need to correct the times a bit though. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 02:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

SAITM
Do you know the South Asian Institute of Technology and Management? At first glance, it seems notable to me. A new user just created the article SAITM, and it was immediately tagged as CSD G11. Maybe you can help the newbie? (See User talk:Catalyst.saitm.) &mdash; Sebastian 02:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it's still new, so there might not be a lot of sources. I'll have a look around. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 05:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I found some sources and it's definitely notable. I can work on it in a few hours. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 05:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks chamal for helping..I owe you one !! Catalyst.saitm (talk) 13:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem :) You can now get an idea on how to improve the article by checking my edits. I'll try to help with it more if I have time. BTW, it's not a good idea to post your personal info here since these pages are accessible by anyone. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 13:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

SAITM
I created this SAITM page,,,anyway's I should thank you guys for noticing.Please Tell me how to add the sources that you gave me and get this trouble of my back.You are welcome to edit the page if it seems as a promotional page.Plz respond.. btw. (Catalyst.saitm (talk) 12:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC))

That was just a warning
That wasn't anything the article didn't already say I thought? --83.141.77.130 (talk) 11:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * My warning was about this edit. Are you talking about something else? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 11:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

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Help me!
Chamal, I wanted to redirect the page Buddhagaya to the page of Bodhgaya which is an existing article. But somehow, accidentally I blanked the page. I did not want to do that. Please could you turn it back to the last legitimate edition. I tried,but I couldn't do! Please help me!!! Pasanbhathiya2 (talk) 06:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The actual article is at Bodh Gaya. Buddhagaya & Bodhgaya (which you blanked accidentally) are both redirects. User:N5iln has fixed it. The new page you created, Buddha Gaya, should also redirect to Bodh Gaya and not Bodhgaya. This too has been fixed by a bot. No harm done and nothing to worry about :) ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 07:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Email
Hi there. I just sent you an email. Amsaim (talk) 11:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

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Sigh
One warped set of guidelines it seems... Double standards everywhere is not good. I just do not like seeing things like this happening on here and I do not appreciate being reported earlier today for actually trying to help. I can't believe how these people have messed this up. Himalayan  12:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't take it too hard :) I think there's been a misunderstanding in taking your withdrawal as bad faith or violating policy, and it would have been better if they notified you first. But I suppose when you get heated up, it leads to more confusion. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 13:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Admin?
Just found out you are now an administrator. Congrats. --LAA Fan sign review 01:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, LAAFan! Good to see you again :) You guided me a long way, and thanks a lot for that. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 02:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll second that. Nice to see ya, dude. — Ed   (Talk  •  Contribs)  02:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
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 * Thanks for letting me know :) I'll keep an eye on it. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 05:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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Sri Dalada Maligawa
That is exactly what I was thinking, to get help from everybody in WP:LK. I have following books to be used in writing, I think Blackknight also could help here. Let's do this as a collaboration of the wikiproject. See you in editing then!-- Chanaka L  ( talk ) 03:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Ela... time for me to visit the library then :) ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 03:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you :-)
Thank you for the work that you are doing for DYK. It is a popular part of Wikipedia that needs people helping out by giving credits and such to keep it going. Your work is noticed and appreciated. :-) Best regards, FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 10:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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BLock block block
User talk:Somody Hell In A Bucket (talk) 03:55, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Camw had already blocked by the time I got there :) ≈ Chamal Avast, landlubber! ¤ 04:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Np! You were the only admin online I saw! Hell In A Bucket (talk) 04:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

History of Sri Lanka
Hi, recently a user created two page on the history of Sri Lanka, Pre Colonial era (500 BC - 1505 AD) and Post Colonial era (since 1948), although his/her edits were of good faith it has just created more confusion because he/she has separated Sri Lankan history into only two categories when it should be more and in specific periods. In the meantime I have sorted everything out and have created the following pages: Ancient history of Sri Lanka, Medieval history of Sri Lanka, Colonial history of Sri Lanka, Sri Lanka in the twentieth century and Post conflict history of Sri Lanka. I have taken all the information from those two articles and have placed them into the new pages I created, so I am ask you if you could delete Pre Colonial era (500 BC - 1505 AD) and Post Colonial era (since 1948). Thanks--Blackknight12 (talk) 10:54, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I can't do that. If you want an article deleted, you have to take it to WP:AFD. An admin can't delete articles on request. I'm not sure if any of those articles are actually needed, but they can always be improved so I personally don't see a reason to delete any of them either. And please note that you can't simply copy material from another Wikipedia article, if that is what you have done. See here. ≈ Chamal Avast, landlubber! ¤ 17:59, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks, I didn't know that, I will take it to WP:AFD. And with the new articles I did not copy material from other Wikipedia articles, I only moved them. Thanks--Blackknight12 (talk) 11:21, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle
It works now, thanks for the help. Programmer101 (talk) 15:19, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem :) ≈ Chamal Avast, landlubber! ¤ 18:00, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

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Sri Dalada Maligawa
That's quite alright. Take your time please. Best-- Chanaka L  ( talk ) 02:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Michael Lobo
How come an interview by Michael Lobo is copyrighted? Slumdog102 (talk) 11:50, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * There is only one article published on him. So, it's natural a lot of data would be taken from there.
 * How is this copyright infringement. I have written this article in my own words.


 * Hi. It's not the interview, but the material in that webpage that is copyrighted. The sentences in the article have been copied almost word to word from here, which clearly says that its material is copyrighted. Did you read the message I have left on your talk page? The links given there, including Copyright violations, explain very clearly why the article is not acceptable in its current form. And please note that the notice on the page clearly instructs editors not to edit the page, which you have done. What you could do and how is also explained there, i.e make a non-copyvio version by following the link given. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:01, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Please tally the sentences. Tell me how many sentences have been copied verbatim from source. You have also put the tag on almost the entire article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slumdog102 (talk • contribs)
 * Yes, I have. That is because as I said, the article is copied almost word to word from the source and you have done some minor rewordings. That still does not count as "your own words". I'm sure you have contributed to this article in good faith, but the problem is, that is still not allowed (also see WP:PLAGIARISM). The problem is not with you, but with the content. Do not edit the article, because the copyvio bit has to be reviewed and deleted if necessary. Edit the subpage through the given link instead. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The Literary career section has been written by me entirely in my own words from the interview and not from the material of the article. So, please do not extend the tag to it. Interviews and quotes by people cannot be copyrighted by any site. Slumdog102 (talk) 12:12, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * As I said on your talk page, the reviewing admin will decide that. If it is not a copyvio, it will not be removed. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. That's the reason I haven't removed the notice from the first 2 sections. The Literary career and the Lead has been written by me in my own words. Interviews cannot be copyrighted. Slumdog102 (talk) 12:18, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * OK :) I won't be changing anything there again, and I trust you won't either. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. Then how do you expect us to build the article. There's only and only 1 article published on him. This is about Michael Lobo's life. How can the site decide what we should publish here on his life. Ultimately, the site has taken data from Michael Lobo. Slumdog102 (talk) 12:31, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think this is not Plagiarism. The site has ultimately taken details from Michael Lobo. The ultimate copyright holder is Michael Lobo himself. I personally contacted Lobo on his E-mail. He has given me full permission to use the information. If you want the mail, I can send it. Slumdog102 (talk) 12:36, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, that's not the way it works. Copyright is a complicated thing, and I'm no expert. If this site has copied the material from a source by Lobo, then Lobo would be the copyright owner. Otherwise, daijiworld hold the copyright because it's the material that's copyrighted and not the information. If you have permission from Lobo, you should read WP:COPYREQ, and contact OTRS as instructed there. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Please remove the copyright notice immediately. The information on the Daijiworld site has been taken ultimately from a biography DOC file sent by Michael Lobo to Daijiworld. I have the mail with the attached DOC file sent by Michael Lobo. Even when the images are verified by the OTRS team, the images are not deleted. Likewise, the copyright notice should be removed for now until verified by the OTRS team. They take a long time. Please forward me your E-mail ID so that I can mail you with the file. Please remove the notice. Slumdog102 (talk) 13:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Good call Chanel. Slumdog maybe working in good faith, but my understanding is that the text was sent by Michael to the web site and they printed it without change or checking it. If they did then its not a reliable source. If they did change it then they own the copyright of the changes. Either way we cannot use it immediately. Victuallers (talk) 14:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Utter rubbish. Daijiworld is a very reputed news portal and has established editors and offices throughout the world. They have carried out fact-checking and the source is highly reliable. They have made some changes. But even I have made some changes in the article. I have not copied verbatim from source. The facts like Lobo attended this school/college (about Michael Lobo's life) cannot be held copyright by the site. Please note that the Lead/Literary career/Works/References has been written by me in my own words. They have been taken from the interview not from the material. So, that's not plagiarism. Slumdog102 (talk) 14:18, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, the copyvio notice should stay for now. There is no proof yet that what you say is true, and OTRS has to confirm that. Since the website says the material is copyrighted, we have to follow this procedure for now. If OTRS confirms this, then of course the material will not be removed. Please don't send the email to me; even if you did I can't do anything about it. Send it to OTRS, and they will respond as soon as possible. @Victuallers: it's Chamal, mate :) ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 14:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Source says : Michael Lobo was born in Mangalore on September 12, 1953 at the ancestral home of the Bijai branch of the Lobo Prabhu family. He is the great-great grandson of Lawrence Lobo Prabhu (1805-83), a distinguished jurist of his time, and the donor of the site of St Aloysius College. His father, Camillo Lobo (1907-71), was an engineering graduate of Imperial College, London, who later joined the British-Indian army, and served with distinction in Egypt and Italy during World War II.

Article says : ''Michael Lobo was born on September 12, 1953 in Mangalore to Maisie Lobo (née Fernandes) and Camillo Lobo, both of Mangalorean Catholic origin. Michael's father was an engineering graduate of Imperial College, London, who later joined the British-Indian army, and served with distinction in Egypt and Italy during World War II. Michael's mother's family had migrated to Kallianpur (near Mangalore) from Divarde, Goa in 1740. Michael's great grandfather Lawrence Lobo was a distinguished jurist of his time and the donor of the site of St. Aloysius College in Mangalore.''

Is this plagiarism? How can ordinary facts of Michael Lobo's life like being born here/visiting this school/father/mother be copyrighted? I have never copied verbatim word to word from source. You can compare both. I hope you are understanding Slumdog102 (talk) 14:24, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I hope Chamal does not mind but I will answer this. I have also placed this reply at User talk:Slumdog102 where this discussion can continue if needed -- so it doesn't usurp any more of Chamal's talk page. A review indicates the article was correctly tagged for copyright infringement. Some examples of text which are repeated almost verbatim from the original source are:
 * Wikipedia article reads:"...was an engineering graduate of Imperial College, London, who later joined the British-Indian army, and served with distinction in Egypt and Italy during World War II."
 * Source reads:"...was an engineering graduate of Imperial College, London, who later joined the British-Indian army, and served with distinction in Egypt and Italy during World War II."
 * Wikipedia article reads:"...matriculated from Montfort High School in Yercaud, Tamil Nadu, and later graduated from St. Aloysius College (Mangalore). He went on for post-graduate studies in mathematics. As a student, he was a keen chess player and, in 1975, qualified for the National A (India's top 20). He was also interested in mountaineering, and underwent a course at the Himalayan Mountaineering Institute, Darjeeling, passing with distinction."
 * Source reads:"...matriculated from Montfort Boys High School, Yercaud, Tamil Nadu, graduated from St Aloysius College, Mangalore, and went on for post-graduate studies in mathematics. As a student, he was a keen chess player and, in 1975, qualified for the National A (India's top 20). He also dabbled in mountaineering, and underwent a course at the Himalayan Mountaineering Institute, Darjeeling, passing with distinction."
 * Wikipedia article reads:"...gave up both mountaineering and chess, in favour of an academic career. He joined the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, for research studies in Transonic Aerodynamics"
 * Source reads:"...gave up both mountaineering and chess, in favour of an academic career. He joined the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, for research studies in Transonic Aerodynamics"
 * These are clear examples of infringing text and cannot be used unless you are quoting from the source. The text in the article will need to be removed, revised, or released for use in Wikipedia by the methods outlined on the copyright violation notice placed on your talk page. If you wish to revise the text, please use the Talk:Michael Lobo/Temp page which is linked from the CV template on the article. (Also, reading WP:Close paraphrasing can provide help on how to avoid text that when revised might still be plagiarism. After you have revised the text, the page will be reviewed and if it is found to be clear of any infringing text, an administrator will move it into the mainspace. If you have any further questions, please fell free to ask me. — Cactus Writer |   needles  10:44, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I fear
I suspect that History of Bukhara is a fork from Bukhara and it has never been said that this is the case as far as I can see. This is not a new article I fear ... can you confirm or deny my feeling? Victuallers (talk) 15:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah yes. It seems you're right. Check this edit to Bukhara. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 15:12, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Suceava North railway station
New nomination, sources verified in Romanian. I expanded it a little. Himalayan   20:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

FYI
A question regarding an issue you have been involved with was raised at my RFA. See Q8 here. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 09:58, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, well... I don't know what he's trying to do, but if he wants that copyvio tag removed he better contact OTRS with the info he claims to have (see above). Apparently he has not done this so far, and I see no reason to comply. Thanks for informing me about this, Abecedare :) ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 10:44, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

PS
You write some good articles on ancient history of Sri Lanka. I edit some of them, and I think I see you on some of the ancient Indian history articles, also. Good work expanding wikipedia to such areas which often appear remote from Western scholarship. --69.225.5.4 (talk) 01:35, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

MILHIST admins
Hi. Since you're an admin and a member of the Military History WikiProject, feel free to list yourself here. Cheers, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 14:09, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done :) ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 14:15, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Simple English Wikipedia
Howdy, I was perusing the help desk when I saw your response to a question about Wikipedia for kids. Simple Wikipedia is such a good idea (I had no idea it existed), thanks for pointing it out. A number of people I know are learning English as 2nd language and this seems like a great resource for them. Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 15:15, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure, no problem :) Happy editing. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 15:17, 26 September 2009 (UTC)