User talk:Champion/Archive 2016

Well I just wanted to say thank you
For making the encylopaedia better. I don't know how to award barnstars but if you come here I'd offer you a drink (maybe even a meal). Just thanks for making it better. I notice your hard work at RfD and it takes time to find them and list them and never are they anything but intelligent listings. Might disagree on a few but that is exactly what RfD is for, and we are (I hope) together making the encylopaedia better. So I thank you for that. That's all, folks. Si Trew (talk) 07:00, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

File:National anthem of North Korea.ogg listed for discussion
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Computer notepad listed at Redirects for discussion
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Actually I found info on uname to be somewhat useful.
That is before you removed it. It's not I don't appreciate it, I do understand your reason. It's just now I'll have to find these info myself. Regards, Dannyniu (talk) 11:46, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * }Good to see you didn't revert it. I'm a deletionist myself, but I guess yeah, you can find it somewhere else. I was worried about pro-"GNU/Linux" people using that article to verify their claims as well. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 00:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

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iPhone 7S
It is not implausible to believe that people would search for this term, since previous iPhone models have an S version (4S, 5S, 6S). Unfortunately, suppressing the initial upper case letter does not appear to work with redirects, so it is not possible for the term to appear as it would be seen on a product. I have reverted you, but if you disagree then please take this to WP:RFD. Thanks, This is Paul (talk) 20:43, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * You have removed the CSD tag from a page that you have created yourself rather than contested the speedy deletion, it can only be done by another editor, I have re-inserted the tag on the redirect, now, please do not remove it, but if you disagree, please contest the deletion. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 23:13, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought that was a PROD for some reason. Anyway, I've now contested the request. This is Paul (talk) 23:22, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I've also removed your user warning since it was a genuine error. This is Paul (talk) 23:25, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Fujian's People Republic
hi Im the one who edited the page, the reason why was that I think Chinese Republic would be a better translation for 中華共和國. Not only is it a more literal translation, and it creates less confusion. Since that way it won't share the same English name with 中華民國. What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NattDoesWikiStuff (talk • contribs) 06:22, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The current name is cited to reliable sources, please provide sources for the change, thank you. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 22:18, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

personal attacks
I must admit this came as a surprise to me that "AngusWOOF, I hate you" would be thought of as anything but what it was, a tongue-in-cheek remark because I did actually follow up about the content and the fact that this redirect has on at least two occasions according to its history redirected to Dan Quayle. Perhaps I should have given the diffs but I thought that would be over-egging the pudding. I'm quite prepared to apologise both personally to User:AngusWOOF and put some kind of apology on WP:RFD but I think, as it stands, deleting the comment would look like some kind of cover-up. (Especially because I don't even know if AngusWOOF has even read it). I certainly respect all AngusWOOF's hard work over at RfD (and yours for that matter) but it just never occurred to me that this would be read anything other than ironically. Si Trew (talk) 06:04, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Responded on your talk page. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 06:12, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I interpreted it as tongue-in-cheek, so no worries. :) Thanks for your concern. I'll let you know if it's something that bothers me. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:13, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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USER:Sher Aziz
please unblock my account from editing. Two years ago i was blocked due to my edit mistake by misclicked on article and i created many article and i wish to create more article in future. I will never repeat again my mistake now you must unblock me thanks 202.69.12.251 ([:User talk:202.69.12.251|talk]]) 11:18, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I am not an administrator so I can't help you with that, I had nothing to do with the blocking of your account, please ask an administrator to assist with the enquiry, see WP:UTRS. Thanks. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 22:02, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

rfd today
go ahead mate sorry to spoil it very important phone call. Went to UK on Monday for me mum's funeral and thought might have been about that (back in Hungary early Tues morning) but actually request for interview for new job, so importantish but could have waited but I wasn't to know that. Am clearing up my mess now. Si Trew (talk) 09:20, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * All tidied and done, Champ. Thanks for your patience. Si Trew (talk) 09:33, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Stop putting words in my mouth and I shall stop putting them into yours
I thought that was quite clear that when I said "the translation stinks" those were my words not yours. We've had this before, with you threatening me with a ban because I said "I hate you" to User:AngusWOOF, something if you read up that user replied "I only ever thought it was tongue-in-cheek". Stop being so bloody sensitive, please, Champ. Read the whole of the nomination not take words out of context, then you would have seen that those were my words, not yours, and not attributed to you. I said that the translation stinks, and I did not mean that it was a bad translation of the article, only that it was a bad translation, or at least an incomprehensible one, to An English-Speaking audience. You pinged me in to that thing, I presume, as an ignorant but intelligent reader and so as an ignorant but intelligent reader I said this makes no sense, it stinks. The title stinks of bad translation. And what it actually stinks of is a bad machine translation before you tidied it up, but it still makes no sense to an English-speaking audience. Now I have it in three places, WP:RFD, your talk page here, and the talk at the article which is where it belongs but was red. Let me do the fact-checking and collate it into one place, please. Don't be so trigger-happy, these things take time to go through, and distractions like this make it longer. Si Trew (talk) 02:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't get this, but I shall have no further input. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 02:54, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * You don't really need to ping me at my talk page nor at RfD for that matter, I am generally watching those. Let me try to sort out the nomination for the target, and I hope that you will contribute to that. You can't have it both ways, Champ, you have pinged me five times in fifteen minutes and I am trying to sort out the nominaton. I am not as quick as you, but I am thorough. Let me do it, please, I asked you that. Si Trew (talk) 02:57, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/MediaWiki:Tagline/en-gb
Hello Champion, please see my Speedy Keep rational on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/MediaWiki:Tagline/en-gb, if you disagree I will convert that to a vote and reopen the MfD. Please ping me or post on my talk page if replying. — xaosflux  Talk 03:15, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * This is the ONLY example of such a tagline, as I stated in my rationale. MediaWiki:Tagline/en-ca and MediaWiki:Tagline/en-au just say "From Wikipedia". So it would make sense to create those if someone changes the language. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:21, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree, and have just created those - hopefully this isn't the opposite of what you wanted - if you are still proposing that all of these be deleted I'll lump them all in and reopen the MfD. — xaosflux  Talk 14:53, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * For general discussion on the process we can also discuss at MediaWiki_talk:Tagline. — xaosflux  Talk 15:00, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

OBAMA! listed at Redirects for discussion
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Request for help with figuring out the issue
Hi Champion, I can't figure out exactly how to exactly classify an issue and thought that you would be a good person to contact because of your participation in redirect resolutions. The issue is that there is what appears to be a redirect without a redirect page. The article this concerns is California golden bears football. Below is what I posted on its talk page to bring up the issue:


 * Recently there were redirects created for the previous seasons' navbox references to uncreated seasons articles. Previously, because there was no article that the references was made to, the year was in red font. Now, because of the redirect, the season appears in blue, as if there is an article. If clicked upon the reference loops you back to the golden bears football article that you are in.


 * The problem is that now, one cannot tell if there is an article for a season or not. Let's take 1956, a memorable year in Cal history. It was Pappy Waldorf's last season and had one of the most memorable Big Games. Previously when I was looking at the navbox I saw that 1956 was in red, which told me that there was no article. Because of this I put the creation of the article on my list. Now, because of the redirect, the season appears in blue as if there is an article that is linked to. One can no longer tell if there is an article created for the season or not, which makes it less likely that this article would be created. Also, now that there is a redirect when one does click on a redirected year, it takes one to the top of the article that one is at, which is confusing.


 * Because of these problems, I think we should go back to how it was before and take out the redirects. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Rybkovich (talk) 19:14, 20 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I say take the redirects to WP:RFD. The standard is to have red links so that it will notify users that an article needs created. I'll ping for his input. Corkythe  hornetfan  (ping me) 20:38, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * RFD sounds fine. Best option would to go and Stub these out. Jweiss11 (talk) 22:35, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks so very much Rybkovich (talk) 18:02, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Hey
That's great, thank you! CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 20:17, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Updated free-use rationale for File:Default_installation_of_Windows_XP,_showing_Start_and_Explorer.png and also for File:Windows_8_Start_Screen_and_desktop_after_installation.png
I hope these satisfy the requirements now :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatkitten (talk • contribs) 06:44, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

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Thatkitten (talk) 06:46, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Mongolian studies
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Mistake on the Donald Trump page
The page had stated Donald Trump will be the oldest president in American History, correction, Ronald Regan took the presidency at 77 years old.

Just to let you know. Plus I don't know where to actually write this so I hope I'm right in writing this correction here since I can't edit Trumps page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themariobros45 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Please leave this message at Talk:Donald Trump, also please provide a reliable source for the claim. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 21:31, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
There is a move request ongoing, I just thought I would let you know. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:54, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted
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User talk:Tmueller78
Hi Champion, I think we essentially had a pseudo-curating conflict, and I undid my move to draftspace to let your analysis stand. I followed up with the user at User talk:Tmueller78, just an FYI :) — Andy W. ( talk ) 18:05, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Ermine (Private) Limited
It appears this article is being disputed. Let's see if the deletion is confirmed by AFD so this creation-deletion wheel war doesn't continue. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 07:03, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The nominator has not provided a deletion rationale at AFD, that is why I though the nomination was created in error, thank you for your understanding. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:04, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, just let the AFD go through so will understand why it was deleted to begin with.  VegasCasinoKid (talk) 07:07, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Now，it is ok？
Hi Champion, I think Shenzhen_Ok_Biotech_Technology_Co.,_Ltd.is ok ,you feel .sorry adbout my english — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mokezhilao (talk • contribs) 07:40, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Please do not create promotional content on Wikipedia, if you believe the entity is notable, please provided secondary sources about the company that are independent (i.e. having no connection to) of the subject. The article clearly does not state notability. Regards. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:45, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Thanks for reviewing Sappho for Equality, Champion.

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"Needs further, in depth examination"

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I have unreviewed a page you curated
Thanks for reviewing Child Marriage in Nepal, Champion.

Unfortunately Kudpung has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

"In sufficiently reviewed. This article should have been PRODed as an essay,"

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Vozuća
Hi, I saw that you posted a message on a user's page stating that Vozuća was nominated for speedy deletion, but there is no tag on the article and there is nothing in history to show that a tag was applied.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 04:14, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It was recreated after it was deleted, hence the history of the previous page is not visible, if needed, you can request a history merge. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:16, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No, that's fine. I just thought that an automated tool \ function might not have been working.-- CaroleHenson (talk) 04:33, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Your unprotection request for Google Watch
Please see my reply to your request. You can respond there if you wish. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 16:49, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

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November 2016
Hello Champion. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that there is consensus that we shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1) and/or content (CSD A3) moments after they are created, as you did at Thomas Uskali. It is also suggested that pages that might meet CSD A7 criteria not be tagged for deletion immediately after they are created. It's usually best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Wikipedia. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks. Adam9007 (talk) 03:00, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
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I have unreviewed a page you curated
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Recent Changes at Point Grey Secondary
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 * Sorry if I did, but it seems like you edited the fourth floor swimming pool to Point Grey as it clearly doesn't exists. Josh, Thank You (talk) 03:17, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Suman Joti
Sorry for the revert on this page. I was attempting to revert my BLPPROD and switch it to an A7, and ended up undoing your edit by accident. Cheers Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 04:19, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, I thought it may have been illegitimate. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:21, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

G'Day
Still trogging through the Eubot redirects... I should say only about one in ten are troublesome, perhaps as few as one in twenty. A lot of the rest are entirely redundant, but not troublesome. The annoying thing with the Eubot ones is there's no way of marking "Keep, looked at" like we could with the Neelix ones. I hope that if I rcat them, and thus they have history, any bot run we do can thus fish those out as being done. There's a couple of Japanese ones I was unsure about, I learned a bit of Japanese but only basic grammar etc, but I don't think you're too acquainted with Japanese? It's more a cultural translation thing than wording etc. Si Trew (talk) 02:38, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh forgot to say... I have sifted about a thousand Eubot ones tonight... 1% on the progressometer. Si Trew (talk) 02:51, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, it looks like a list is in progress per WT:CSD, and no, I can't help you with the Japanese, but User:Athomeinkobe occasionally drops in at RFD, and may be of a little help. Cheers. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:31, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just realised, if I rcat something while I have the  option on Special:Contributions (check "Only show edits that are latest revisions") then any that I've rcatted disappear. That's what I wanted, but for some reason I had not "discovered" that option... doh! That still doesn't help with ones that can't be improved from the existing tag (i.e. are just plain "keep")... I suppose I could make a dummy edit just so they disappear from that list. It also means ones that have been bot-changed since creation (e.g. by SmackBot or a double-redirect bot) don't appear, which is less than perfect. Si Trew (talk) 09:21, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. Can you point me to the page where you need someone to have a look? Thanks, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:21, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * . -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:25, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Trump University
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Please don't delete a page that I've created.
Hello, I've created a page "Venkat (Telugu actor)" on December 1st. Please don't apply for speedy deletion. It's a humble request. I have created the page of an actor. Help me if you can in anyway but please don't delete it. I want to share my information that I have and I've read from other sites and let me implement it as a Wikipedia page. Thanks.

Regards, Pradeep Kumar PradeepKumar308 (talk) 08:23, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Please click the button and provide a valid reason. Once it has been deleted, if you want it back, you may make a request at WP:RFU. Regards. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you
If you don't mind can you just see the page and tell me whether if it's fine and is eligible for not being deleted.

Regards, Pradeep Kumar PradeepKumar308 (talk) 08:30, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Trump University
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Your edit of [[Chikara (professional wrestling)
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BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected
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"Yuen"
Actually the "Yuen" in Yuen Long is Hong Kong Government Cantonese Romanisation (Jyutping jyun, IPA /jyn/, sounds the same as Putonghua "yun" except for tone). This is contrasted with Cantonese "yun" (e.g. Chow Yun-fat, Jyutping jeon, IPA /jɵn/).

On the other hand the "Yuen" in Yuen Ren Chao is almost certainly an alternative transcription of what is now "yuan" in Pinyin. Deryck C. 11:41, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know Cantonese, but I did think "yuen" refered to "yuan" in that case as "Yuen Long" would be "Yuan Long" in Pinyin. I know that some people from the North will often not difference between pinyin "r" (as in Zhou Renfa, Chow Yun-fat) and "y", e.g. “讓” is essentially the same as “樣” . Taiwanese also have a trait of pronouncing “er，二” similar to “e，餓” Also Comparison_of_Chinese_transcription_systems does not list "yuen" anywhere, perhaps I just thought that as I don't know any Cantonese. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 19:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yuen Long would be "Yuan Lang" in Pinyin I used to work in the Northeast and knew people who regularly over-correct "y" sounds into "r", e.g. rúnxǔ in place of yǔnxǔ "to permit". Comparison of Chinese transcription systems, for good reason, only includes transcriptions based on modern standard Mandarin (Putonghua/Guoyu). Deryck C. 12:25, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Data Discrimination merger into Net Bias
I was trying to find an editor that was active to see if I can get the discussion kicked off about changing the nature of the data discrimination article. it is in a drop-down about discrimination against people but the article is about discrimination against data itself. the term has changed to mean the usage of data against people in employment, health insurance, etc. the article on net bias is a better place for data discrimination in the sense of discriminating against data. Thank youUpstatelee18 (talk) 19:34, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

N word
Hey, I just want to let you know that it's probably not a good idea to use "N*****". The RFD regs know you mean "Neelix", but RFD regs aren't the only ones reading your nominations. To an American, "N*****" means nigger, which is extremely pejorative in American culture (unless it's nigga, but that's a different story). At the very least, someone who doesn't understand the Neelix situation might be confused. Best, -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:26, 9 December 2016 (UTC) Neelixism is the act of creating unnecessary often nonsensical redirects, often involving invented forms of words and often relating to taboo subjects. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:39, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, if I just mentioned "Neelix", a non-reg may not know what I mean either as not everybody understands the situation, unless, of course, they read the Signpost regularly. (I never read it). So I'm not sure when the whole situation will be done with, you did tell me not to use terms like "Neelix-esque" etc because of the confusion, but I have a feeling his name will be frequently mentioned at RfD for quite a while afterwards. But all that aside, here's one:
 * I don't know why I particularly have been pinged in here (I better ), but my two penn'orth is that it!s reasonable shorthand to say "Neelix" because the WP:X1 criterion (split out from WP:G6) specifically refers to Neelix and expects admins to refer to Neelix in their closing remarks, thus, to say "Neelix" is helpful to closing admins to be aware that these redirects may be treated specially for administrative purposes only, the R must still be discussed on its merits, of course. Similarly I notice that Champion has followed my habit of marking redirects created by User:Eubot with (Eubot) that is discussed over at WT:CSD. I appreciate that without links to the back-story these can be confusing to non-regulars, but so can many other little bits of jargon we use.
 * I suppose we could add a shortcut to some little explanation/essay somewhere, that collects such back-story, WP:RBOMB or WP:RBLUNDERBUSS or somesuch, that summarises the history of these kinds of carpet bombing/blunderbuss redirects. (User:Pumpie's and that user's various sockpuppets also probably fit this; not exclusively but many of Eubot's were made on the back of Pimpie's, especially the Greek ones). We can't sensibly put "See WP:X1", I think, because that obviously raises the question "why not take it to X1 then"? (And, currently, would only apply to Neelix.) I think being honest and just saying the name of the creator, unlinked, at the start of the nomination in parentheses, is a useful convention that we can easily explain. We could write "(created by User:Neelix)" but that seems overly wordy. We could add the R's creator to the template that is subst'd to lists the various facets of the redirect (its target, history, links etc: I can never find that template). Si Trew (talk) 03:00, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Trump-Tsai call


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Discussions on the merging of the Republic of China (1912–49) article
Hello, there's a discussion open regarding the merging of the article name above here for merging the Republic of China (1912–49) with the Republic of China after 1949. This was done since Donald Trump recently questioned against the One-China policy and the entity as a continuation of the 1912 republic even though they lost the mainland. 135.23.144.167 (talk) 00:13, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Jennifer Freed, PhD.
hi, I keep getting my page deleted and I'm trying to figure out the "undeletion" process - would love help on getting it to stay up. Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snd2016 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello, please make a request at WP:DRV, listing reliable secondary sources, make sure that they are independent of the subject of the article (i.e. not affiliated with the subject), also, ensure the page passes the notability guideline and adheres to the relevant policies. If you still find it confusing, please ask a question at the Teahouse. Cheers.  -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

WP:RfD alternate approach suggestion
I wanted to know your thoughts on this as I see you extensively working on this topic. This is regarding the huge pileup of new terms redirecting to existing pages that I am seeing on RfD. While we are discussing a lot of them and not able to outright delete the same, I suggest we stop encouraging alternate terms (per policy) which are minor verbiage changes and are causing issues. Wiki search engine is not like that of Google or other similar ones and it is not meant to be. An acronym is acceptable at the max for a redir. Will it help to have a general consensus to discuss and make policy change so that we can outright delete such redirects to save time in doing the right thing ? Devopam (talk) 05:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I would definitely like to comment on this, but I suggest you bring this to WT:RFD if anywhere so we can receive input from multiple editors. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:50, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Created a new section for discussion on the talk page as suggested. Devopam (talk) 06:53, 16 December 2016 (UTC)