User talk:Chancemill/Archive1

Miscellaneous
Thanks for taking the plunge -- I was starting to get worried that no one would edit the darn thing! -- BCorr ¤ &#1041;&#1088;&#1072;&#1081;&#1077;&#1085; 14:02, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)


 * -) I have added a little more stuff -- Hope this gets passed without much objection. User:Chancemill 12:30, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hello there Chance welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit How does one edit a page or how to format them visit our manual of style. Experiment at Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Help or add a question to the Village pump or my talk page. If you find problems with an article either you correct/add the information yourself, or you can added it to Cleanup. Cheers, Muriel Gottrop

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Hi,

Thanks for your appreciation of my work. BTW, around 50% of the article was really extempore(or should it be a written equivalent of extempore); the stories that elders sometimes insist on telling do have their uses:-) KRS 17:15, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hi,

Good to see you create lots of new pages on Hindu mythology. A few words of advice regarding convention. When one creates a new page which is relatively of a very short length, one should give a stub notice which is available somewhere on the site. Also, the first word in the page is also the name of the page itself, and is in Bold KRS 09:30, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

+ 1 more tip - You just have to type 4 tildes to automatically sign with date and 3 tildes for just name alone (tilde is the key before 1 in the keyboard:-)KRS 09:40, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hi! Greetings from R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah. Just seen your message... Indeed many thanks for polishing my English.Rrjanbiah 13:40, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

--- Hi, I saw your message about Crime Fiction and before I knew it I ran away with an idea. I've moved the material on History of Crime Fiction and Film and literature: The case of crime fiction to independent articles because I think they can stand on their own feet. I've moved rather than copied which may not fit in with your intentions as regard the article, so feel free to copy some or all of the material back to crime fiction, because I am not intending to make a major investment of time in that particular article. I would suggest writing summaries in the main article, but you may well want to do something far more extensive. : ChrisG 14:48, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hi. KRS tells me that you may be knowledgeable about Indian political parties - The List of political parties in India is a mess! I'd appreciate any help in trying to sort it out. Thanks for your help. Secretlondon 15:19, Dec 19, 2003 (UTC)

Greetings from R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah! I could see Velupillai Prabhakaran in your to-do list. It would be nice, if you could spare some time to clean up my sluggish English. Thanks. -- Rrjanbiah 08:25, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hope, this link will be useful to you  -- Rrjanbiah 11:02, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)


 * Greetings. I thought of adding more content too to Prabhakaran. Thanks for the suggestion and invitation. That will be the next one on my list. Meanwhile, please go ahead and add whatever you feel is appropriate. Grammar and spelling are of relatively minor importance in wikipedia (when compared to real content) :-) Cheers Chancemill 12:18, Feb 2, 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for your work. Now, it looks very nice. I really admire your English. -- Rrjanbiah 12:43, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hi Chance,

Am really flattered that you consider my contributions worthy enough to merit an adminship! Thanks a lot. However, I need to think about it. Reasons are


 * I haven't done enough work to merit an adminship.
 * I have been trying to get deaddicted and spend more time on practically productive work:-)
 * I contribute to Wikipedia because I like the concept, like writing, like creating order/meaning and uncovering truth through writing. This I can do even if I am a regular contributor.
 * I am not too altruistic as to look at other people's contributions unless it directly infringes on my zone of interests, leave alone settle disputes:-)
 * In my initial stages here, in a couple of occasions (Hinduism and Creationism) when discussions got heated up, I tended to get too involved. Though I felt that my contributions were very valuable and the articles became so much the better for them, I felt that it took too much out of me.Since then I have become more detached. As an adminship might entail getting involved in disputes, I am not sure whether I can do justice to it.

Having said all that, I will think about it if more people feel the same way as you do. However, I am sure that the usual gang of admins who vote on this will 'profile' me well and come to the same conclusions as me:-) BTW, I am a 'she'. KRS 09:25, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

P.S. In fact you would make a very good admin- I will nominate you after sometime:-) KRS 09:25, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)


 * Its natural to assume what you did considering the fact that only once have I mentioned my gender(in a similar context:-)); didn't think it was relevant. Only brought it up because it felt strange to be referred to that way! Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis! That's a new one for me, very interesting. KRS 16:21, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Mind reviewing Auto rickshaw ?? - Kesava, 05:04, Apr 16 2004 (UTC)

You have been nominated for admin status at Requests for adminship. 172 11:27, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)

On crime fiction
Hi,

Thanks for informing me of the changes in the crime fiction article. I'm perfectly aware that this is Wikipedia territory, so of course you're welcome to make any changes you consider an improvement. On the other hand, please don't expect me to approve of them: If I had intended the text differently, I would have written it differently.

I've seen it before: people either merging articles or splitting them up (for example the article I started a long time ago at Millennialism), seemingly at random. You know what, until you mentioned it I didn't even know that there was a "Cleanup" department (your link is not very helpful). I understand there was one request (just one?!) that the article be split up -- and that is all it needs for a willing executioner to lend a helping hand?

You summed up the very first change you made like this: "Why use ten words when one suffices?" Well, I don't think one -- literature -- suffices. Many authors are reluctant to call their own novels and stories crime fiction, but it is the publishers, booksellers etc. who label them as such.

I do hope that there won't be some fool who deletes the older versions of the crime fiction article or who demands their deletion.

Once again, good luck to you! --KF 15:35, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Chance,

I seem to have finished by burst of refactoring. In terms of editing I'll probably work on the crime film article, I had no idea there wasn't an article on the subject before. There are some strange gaps in Wikipedia! : ChrisG 16:18, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

You put your To do list in the main encyclopedia space. I've moved it to your user space. If you want to make pages in your user space link to them as User:Chancemill/newpage. Thanks. Secretlondon 16:35, Jan 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * I deleted it as part of my tidy up. It was just a redirect to your name space.Secretlondon 18:07, Jan 21, 2004 (UTC)

Aryan invasion theory
Have finally taken the plunge with respect to Aryan invasion theory and made the temporary page permanent:-)Do look in when you have the time KRS 14:44, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hinduism
Hi,

If/when you have the time and the inclination, could you please look into Hinduism. User Sam Spade seems to consider it right to refer to Hinduism as an ethnicity and does not seem to see reason. Currently I am hard pressed for time and have connectivity problems also, but I would hate to see something incorrect in this page when so many Indians/ Hindus are Wikipedians. Thanks KRS 04:04, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi,

Been having connectivity problems, so I have kind of lost touch with the pace of life in Wikipedia and in Hinduism. The page seems to be totally a different one now. I still don't agree with the ethnicity reference. However, citations need to be given in case the matter has to be discussed and I don't have the time for it. Also I feel that a detailed writeup on Hindoo and all the colonial baggage is not necessary at the beginning of the page. I too was unhappy with the way the talk page became a platform for discussions on the caste of Wikipedians. I have seen some wikipedians refer to this kind of debates as ad hominem attacks:-) KRS 14:01, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Hinduism/ archive1
I just wanted to mention that I think you handled an inflamatory conversation there very well, preserving wikiquette even under duress. Good job setting a fine example of politeness :) Cheers, Sam Spade 05:45, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * So that you know, I am an american without a Hindu background culturally, and have gravitated towards Sanatana Dharma. I'm not sure if it is appropriate to call myself Hindu due to cultural and ethnic differences, but I have read the bhagavad-gita and find it entirely agreeable. Anyways I hope you understand that my experience and information on the topic is thus limited in comparison to native Hindus, altho my interest and studiousness on the subject is quite high. If you find me making edits on the subject you find to be innaccurate, or lacking in some level of comprehension on my part, please feel free to let me know. Some seem to feel I ment to press an agressive agenda in my edits on Hinduism, but quite the opposite my goal is to learn and to share what I know, as well as to make the article as informative and accurate as it might possibly be :). Thank you again for your good nature, and I look forward to harmonious editing with you! Cheers, Sam Spade 06:41, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)

India
I'm sorry it degenerated, but I will hold that I did not bring the level of conversation down to ad hominems. You'll not that I've put all my outrageous or stupid comments on my user page, for all to see, and none of them include anything remotely of the sort of vitiated dialogue to which you're referring. If I have any fault, it's being verbose. But I do not believe that presenting evidence in an objective fashion and not responding in kind to someone who accused me of being in a pro-Pakistani time warp puts me on the same level as the other interlocutors in this issue. But i do thank you for your concern and will try to be more withdrawn when I see that an issue has reach the limits of its 'debatability.' --LordSuryaofShropshire 13:38, Apr 12, 2004 (UTC)

Hindustan in history
Chancemill, I appreciate your concern on this issue. Clearly my obnoxious detractor believes in presenting vague facts and raking up issues that are relegated to history. A person having an intricate vocablulary may intimidate others, but not me. He comments on his superior intelligence (indirectly). He also has a tendancy to be cynical about other people's views, not necessarily mine. His obscure paradigms are a level of his frustrations. As for as homniem remarks, he is no angel in this regard, having personally mentioned it on his page. In an attempt to show him the lit path, he jumps to the depths of darkness. Nichalp 19:27, Apr 12, 2004 (UTC)

Oil for food
Someone supporting your adminship nomination wrote you had special skills in mediation, and your user page seems to indicate that you do not have a special bias in the topic of oil for food, so I thought you might be willing to help us? There are serious problems, mainly because two users have extreme disagreements and no one else intervened. Bcorr now suggested a peace-plan, would you please take a loot at it?

I saw on your page that you live in India and that you are into Software Consulting. Would you be interested in a vocabulary project I am starting with some people from here and wikibooks? We definitely need someone who could improve on the software, and including one of the languages that are most often spoken in the world and one with such a rapidly growing importance would be great. Please check my user page and let me know what you think. Get-back-world-respect 19:26, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for your fast reply. My project is explained on my user page. I have written a program for learning vocabulary. It is based on the belief that it is best to learn foreign words by learning typical sentences. The program can also be used for learning other stuff that works with the question/answer scheme, e.g. the theory for the driving licence or anatomy. Unfortunately I wrote it in qbasic, which can be downloaded here. It also uses images and sound files for alternation and in order to work on the pronunciation. I currently have files in English, French (with sound), and Spanish. Catalan and Portuguese are in the planning. Corrections or additions are very welcome. The easiest thing to start with for improvements would be adding new vocabulary, sound files or images. A guide to the program will follow soon, although I think it is rather self-explanatory. In the long run the program should be rewritten in a better language like Visual Basic, C, Java or whatever experts think would work best. Afterwards it should be possible to switch languages within the program. Up to now there is a different version of the program for each language. Another serious shortcoming is that only a limited number of words can be included in a data file. Get-back-world-respect 12:42, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * Congratulations to your adminship! Thank you for replying and even taking the time to take a look at Oil for food. Unfortunately only one other user participated in the project, and exactly the one who had caused the whole problem, cf. Requests for comment/TDC. For the vocabulary program, I have already written it, it can be downloaded from my homepage. It uses whole sentences, definitions, images, and sound to learn vocabulary. It can be used for anything that can be learned with the question/answer scheme, such as theory for the dirver's license or anatomy. But it is certainly not programmed in a good language, and it would be nice if it were easier to include new vocabulary/images, etc. Another user suggested to include the list of vocabulary in wikibooks, which I think is a great idea, and I will start with it as soon as I can and made up my mind how to do it best. Get-back-world-respect 22:42, 8 May 2004 (UTC)

Adminship
Glad to see your nomination and acceptance. Congratulations! KRS 14:53, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hey Chance, Congrats !! - Kesava 03:16, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome! It's an honor to nominate such a strong candidate for admin status. 172 21:44, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

Sysop
Congratulations! You are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. Good luck. Angela. 23:54, May 6, 2004 (UTC)

India, downsizing
I suggest we adhere to Wikipedia's page size recommendations (under 32K). I'm not pro culling, but I think articles under headings on the main page should be brief. If anyone needs further info, he can read "see more" articles. I too agree that more content addition is needed, but all can't be added to the main page, links are our best bet to such information addition. There's no harm if the article starts off as a stub. In my opinion a paragraph under a sub-heading should suffice, along with a link to detailed information. Regards Nichalp 19:33, May 8, 2004 (UTC)

Dhruva
When you get the time, and if you know about the myth can you write about Dhruva, even if it is a stub? I have provided a link from Ursa Major constellation talking about the myth of Dhruva (Pole Star). Thanks KRS 12:08, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

Excellent work on British East India Company, BTW. I just got done addressing MarkAlexander100's questions on the talk page and voted for featured status. Remarkably, you avoided overlap with Imperialism in Asia, which I wrote a while ago, in the Company article. 172 20:09, 19 May 2004 (UTC) 172 20:11, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

List of English words of Tamil origin
Is "rice" really derived from "arisi"? Webster's and American Heritage seem to cite Sanskrit and Persian words as the origin (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rice), but they could be wrong, of course. Thanks. Ambarish | Talk 20:27, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

Congratulations on featured status! I'll look for another picture and see if I can get it on the main page. 172 05:50, 24 May 2004 (UTC)
 * I found a picture of Clive, which I guess would suffice. I just made a request for featuring it on the main page.