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Chinese Indonesians

 * Greetings, this is a notice to inform you that Chinese Indonesians, an article which you have previously copyedited, has been nominated at FAC. Should you wish to participate, it would be welcome. Thank you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Reply awaits
06:34, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive
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Tesla
Hi, it's got 12 citations needed, 5 broken links, 2 unreliable reference tags, 5 dubious tags i.e. this is c class. Tom B (talk) 00:17, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes good idea, happy editing, kind regards Tom B (talk) 10:30, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

re: Robotics
The earliest we could get WikiProject Robotics in the Signpost is September. Would you be interested? It won't take much time time and it's a great way to recruit new members. -Mabeenot (talk) 04:02, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the robot article
I'd be happy to collaborate. Mllyjn (talk) 14:54, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

United States is "U.S.", not US
Go figure. And no, it's not like "UN" or "UK". --Niemti (talk) 18:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Video clip times
Thanks for the tip about the video clip times. However the copy of the video I used wasn't a commercial copy - it was a personal recording, so I don't think it would have done any good for me to get a clip time set for all of the quotes. If I had a commercial copy, I would be happy to get the clip times. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:53, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * My personal copy was an online one. But what I meant was, I could take runtimes that would be correct in one online version, but incorrect in another online version. If I had an ISBN attached, then I can say "the runtimes are correct for that version" and there would be no dispute over which runtime is correct. Different copies of the same episode may be spaced differently for content, or for commercial breaks. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.
Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

Regards, User:Szhang (WMF) (talk) 07:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012
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DYK for John Chambers (businessman)
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Credo Reference
I'm sorry to report that there were not enough accounts available for you to have one. I have you on our list though and if more become available we will notify you promptly.

We're continually working to bring resources like Credo to Wikipedia editors, and this will very hopefully not be your last opportunity to sign up for one. If you haven't already, please check out WP:HighBeam and WP:Questia, where accounts are still available. Cheers, Ocaasi 19:11, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

WP Robotics for a Signpost article
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Robotics for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 02:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Article lists
Do you have a general need for article lists from the WP 1.0 database? I can write something that would be more efficient than using the page-by-page interface. What data would you like to have? &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 11:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVII, August 2012
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Timothy Spall at Sea series
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 * Bad Wobot! Chaosdruid (talk) 10:44, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've changed the text of Timothy Spall at Sea series to say he went around the British coast. Seems more elegant that saying he went around the British Isles, and then having to clarify that he didn't really, etc.  It's also supported on the BBC website - I changed the ref.  I know that some refs say he went around the British Isles but think it's best that this article is accurate.  What do you think?  Feel free to change it back if you believe it was better the way it was, I've no real objection and I won't revert etc.  --HighKing (talk) 22:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi

The reason it is in quotation marks is that it is a quotation from the opening scene of all the programmes in the series.

That will have to be changed, as it is currently an incorrect quote. I think it is important to point out the difference between the incorrect usage of British Isles in the programme, the BBC website, and many of the sources. Great Britain = British Isles - Ireland.

I will change it back, as I think that adding more explanation would be better. For example adding "Indeed the BBC website describes it as ..." and "While other sources describe it as ..."

I am of the opinion that in most cases it is best to report all sides rather than try and decide which is the best one to pick. Chaosdruid (talk) 22:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * As a matter of interest, the BBC series descriptions were (chronologically): "mini-odyssey along the coast from Cornwall to Wales"; "mini-odyssey around Britain"; "trip around the British coast". The programmes themselves open with "round the British Isles", and did not change throughout the 3 series.
 * Other refs also use differing descriptions: "circumnavigates Britain" (Telegraph); "round the coast of Britain" (Mirror); "sailing round Britain" (Daily Star); "around the British Isles" (Practical Boat Owner); "around the coast of Britain" (The Independent)
 * For me the issue is that the trip was more than around the British Coast, as it went to Northern Ireland and the Isle of Man. There is also the problem with defining Britain - it technically means the same as Great Britain, which does not include NI. To include that we would have to use "the United Kingdom". AS none of the sources say that, it would be OR to use this phrase.
 * It is all a bit ridiculous - technically one only has to provide a ref to statements that are likely to be challenged, so one might not necessarily have to provide a source for using UK. Chaosdruid (talk) 22:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you mean by "report all sides". What sides?  Also, "Britain's Coast" and "British Coast" don't necessarily mean the same thing.  "British Coast" can be taken to also mean Northern Ireland (but then again it would never include the Isle of Man).  It's odd to use a quote from within the commentary, which we know isn't accurate, rather than use a quote from the website which is far more accurate.  It would save having to explain (in the lede) why the chosen description is inaccurate.  It isn't a good opening for the article.  If the fact that the series uses different descriptions is important, it could be put it into a "unusual facts" section or in the opening statement in the "Series" section.  If we're reporting all sides, we could then also explain how the descriptions of "around Britain", etc, are inaccurate,
 * Looking up the description for the 3 series reads as follows, so the "British coast" quote comes from the "All at sea" series:
 * Somewhere at Sea - A mini-odyssey along the coast from Cornwall to Wales in the company of the actor Timothy Spall and his wife Shane on their Dutch barge
 * Back at Sea - Untrained mariner Timothy Spall has spent a fortune on technology for his new challenge - the unpredictable Irish Sea - as he and his wife continue their mini-odyssey around Britain
 * All at Sea - Timothy Spall and his wife Shane are back on board their beloved barge the Princess Matilda as they conclude their trip around the British coast
 * There's logic in that "British coast", etc, is inaccurate (although referenced), but it far more accurate given the coastlines visited than "British Isles". Since the Isle of Man was also visited, it could read "British coast including the Isle of Man" in the lede, which is accurate and cleaner with less correction on a quoted reference.  --HighKing (talk) 15:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Mabeenot (talk) 22:43, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Christopher B-Lynch for deletion
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N2e (talk) 20:15, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Military history coordinator election
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Mabeenot (talk) 15:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Might be relevant to your interests...
I've quoted(ish) you at this discussion..., it would be great if you could pop by and check I've not taken your remarks out of context - let me know if I've overgeneralised or similar (and feel free to contribute to the topic...) Cheers, Fayedizard (talk) 16:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012
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Null edit
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The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012
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I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My 76 Strat  (talk) 09:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)