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The Bugle: Issue XCI, October 2013
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POV tag meaning
Please read carefully the text of the tag: Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. and follow the instructions. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:56, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Execution of Gary Glitter
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Talkback
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DYK for The Execution of Gary Glitter
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The Bugle: Issue XCII, November 2013
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The Bugle: Issue XCIII, December 2013
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The Bugle: Issue XCIV, January 2014
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re:thanks
Sorry for your loss. However I fail to see why it is my fault. Correct talk threading is important, otherwise eventually you will never understand who answers to whom and about what. So my edit was not as useless as you suggest. (Actually, your previous edit was a similar attempt to untangle the chaos, IFAIU) Second, edit conflicts happen in wikipedia in huge numbers in numerous talk pages where many people shout at each other at the same time:-) and if one is careful, there is no loss, just nuisance. May be you need a better internet connection. Another good idea (which I am using when I am working from poorly connected location) is to use a simple text editor to write a big chunk of text and then cut and paste text into wikipedia. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:25, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Kyiv
Chaos! I haven't corresponded with you for a while, but I'm very concerned about what is going on in Ukraine right now, and would dearly love to hear your take on it, if you're willing to share. You can email me at saukkomies at gmail dot com. --Saukkomies talk 05:07, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Gravity
Good: bringing up a contentious issue on the talk page.

Bad: not waiting for anyone to have time to participate in the discussion before going ahead to make changes.

I've reverted your changes for the time being. Please do not view this as me having a different opinion than you. As soon as consensus is reached you can go ahead and re-add your changes back again, no problemo.

IF such a consensus is reached, that is.

Cheers and have a good one, CapnZapp (talk) 19:16, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I've added a link to various British notables weighing in on the issue. Ta, CapnZapp (talk) 19:18, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Chaosdruid. You have new messages at CapnZapp's talk page. --08:15, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCV, February 2014
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Books & Bytes, Issue 4
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The Bugle: Issue XCVI, March 2014
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The Bugle: Issue XCVII, April 2014
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RE: Jack Parsons
Here's my heads up to say that I'm finished with editing the article for now and you can go ahead with the copyediting work when you wish. JJARichardson (talk) 21:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Glad you're back
Don't know if you're watching the requests talk page, but I only saw your post today. Glad you're feeling better(ish) :-). All the best,  Mini  apolis  01:37, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thx - problem was sort of dealt with, then flared up once the first course of antibiotics finished - so hoping to be back on now the "working week" is over and I have some free time :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 01:17, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Jack Parsons (rocket engineer)
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I'm glad you're feeling better and promise I won't touch the article today! JJARichardson (talk) 12:36, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

WP:VPT
Which skins were affected? I don't see any report suggesting that on VPT, nor I have seen them affected when I was investigating this bug (which should by now be fixed, but it's not definitely confirmed yet). It was just gadgets that were broken (including ones that are enabled by default, which is probably the source of some user confusion). Matma Rex talk 01:14, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The first one, which I added to at the very top. It was making the skin display incorrectly, bypassing my settings. That is a skin issue is it not?
 * The reason I made the title of the section what it was, was to stop people from starting new sections for "skin" problems, like the other three we already had which included "skin" and "gadget" problems. Without knowing how to fix it, or what the problem is, how do/did we know if it is just gadgets, or a java script issue, or a site-wide issue? I also feel that you failed to follow BRD. I made it, you changed it, I put it back (with exp in my summary) then you changed it back again calling it the "correct" title. A bit disappointing that you could not have just left it as it was - and with no explanation or a message here.
 * The other problem is:
 * "I use Vector and am getting all the faults, font size, double pop-ups on hover, TW issues, gadget failures. Chaosdruid (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * "I use the default skin, I haven't changed it, no text size issues, but repeated gadget failures Matty.007 18:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)"


 * Here the other editor is stating that the default skin has no font size issues, while the Vector does. So, how is that not related to skin-choice? Chaosdruid (talk) 14:28, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * "Vector classic typography" is a gadget, as evidenced by the fact that it is available from the "Gadgets" tab of preferences. If you see the standard, larger font restored, then that's a gadget failure and not a skin problem. (And yes, it's not good that this community uses gadgets to override skin behavior without explaining what is going on, which causes this type of confusion every time technical issues appear.)
 * WP:BRD is not a rule, and not even a guideline. I felt that not following it was worth the benefit provided by clearer section title in this case. I don't see what you mean by "no explanation or a message here" when it was you who undid my changes without notifying me.
 * I don't understand your last point. Vector is the default skin, and all of the issues you mentioned seem to refer to gadgets ("font size" I explained above, I don't know what you mean by "double pop-ups on hover" but MediaWiki itself has no popups at all, "TW issues" can only refer to Twinkle which is a gadget as well). Matma Rex talk 20:26, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Put more simply, if the people requiring help saw this as a skin issue and/or a gadget issues, to avoid repetition they were moved to a new section "Skin and gadget"
 * If anyone came along needing help, they would see "skin and gadget issues [todays date]"
 * Instead of creating a whole new section for their perceived skin failure, which is the same as the gadget failure, they would post there.
 * Any that had created a new section were moved into the section I had retitled, and sorted into the various subsections (not by me I might add).
 * You removed the skin part, and anyone coming in with a perceived skin failure, would create a new section if they did not realise that the "Gadget failure" was for them.
 * It is not about being absolutely correctly defined, it was about perception of what the failure was. Chaosdruid (talk) 16:41, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Replies:
 * 1) Maybe someone should have stated that, and that the error was nothing to do with the skin, but it was an overall gadget problem - until then we were clueless.
 * 2) So perhaps some listening to the community should be performed? Maybe give them the option instead of forcing.
 * 3) BRD - that is correct, it is a courtesy which helps to stop ill-feeling between editors that occurs, and reverting without explaining why is discourteous.
 * 4) I made a bold change to move all the sections into one, and to organise them as "skins and gadgets" until we knew more about what the issues were.
 * 5) You decided the title was wrong, and changed it without any discussion with me (did you even check to see who created the section title?).
 * 6) If BRD was followed, it would have been returned to the original title until the discussion finished. (you B, me R, we D)
 * 7) My last point is that the editor only saw it as (perceived it as) a skin issue, and was so unfamiliar with Wiki he did not know it was the default. How could you not understand that? Chaosdruid (talk) 16:53, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't think further talk will change either of our opinions, and I find no pleasure in blame-shifting, so I have nothing more to say. Have fun feeling good about having won the discussion. Matma Rex talk 15:46, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVIII, May 2014
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Books & Bytes, Issue 6
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The Bugle: Issue XCIX, June 2014
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