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 * I'm reverting your edits AGAIN. Take it to Talk:Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event if you want to actually be a collaborative editor. Just because you don't want to converse, doesn't mean you get to edit war. SkepticalRaptor (talk) 21:16, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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Plesiorycteropus
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 * I adjusted the text for what I noticed in the article, and added the proper citation.

I didn't catch the part that about Plesiorycteropus being of Afrosoricidian, so if that is correct you have to put it on the talk page and point it out. You really need to read Citation_templates and other wikipedia information on proper citations. Fill in as many responses as you can to a citation, it may not be possible to answer all.

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 * Hi Chaoyangopterus, thanks for adding the new paper to the Plesiorycteropus article. I wrote most of the article, but missed this new paper, which is an important piece of new information. I feel like it's better to wait before we change the order in the taxobox, but it does look likely now that it's a tenrecoid/afrosoricidan. Ucucha (talk) 23:15, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * ]. Indeed, the original paper describing this species compared the holotype jaw to Tapejara and Sinopterus'', implicating it's affinities to this

Banguela
Hallo Chaoyangopterus! In the original version of your article Banguela you wrote "Because dsungaripteroids are occasionally recovered as derived azhdarchoids, it is possible that toothloss has occurred even more often." I changed the "more" to "less", thinking that the point to be made was that if dsungaripterids were Azhdarchoidea they must have been originally toothless and secondarily developed teeth, meaning that was one case less of lost teeth. It seems that I was mistaken in this but the only scenario that I can think of in which dsungaripterids being azhdarchoids leads to an extra occasion of toothloss, would be that Banguela descended from a dsungaripterid that had secondarily developed teeth, with Banguela losing the teeth for the second time in its lineage. However, this would be contradicted by its being a basal dsungaripterid.

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 * Well, there is no precedent of teeth having ever been redeveloped in derived vertebrates (some possible situations in frogs nonwithstanding), so it's more reasonable to assume azhdarchoid pterosaurs lost their teeth multiple times, with Banguela being an obvious example of toothloss in a basally toothed group --Chaoyangopterus (talk) 15:19, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * But how can it be concluded from this that a position of the Dsungaripteridae within the Azhdarchoidea would lead to an extra case of toothloss compared to a phylogeny in which dsungaripterids are not azhdarchoids? If the ancestors of Banguela did not redevelop teeth and had always been toothed pterosaurs, this would be true whether they are azhdarchoids or not. Also, in the phylogeny of Kellner Azhdarchoidea were, at least basally, edentulous, from which Unwin concluded that Dsungaripteridae could not have been azhdarchoids.--MWAK (talk) 14:47, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Because in the analyses where dsungaripteroids are azhdarchoids they're recovered as part of Neoazhdarchia (see Myers et al 2013, for instance; it's in the Bakonydraco article), meaning that toothlessness occured at least three times in azhdarchoids (first in tapejarids, then in the last common ancestor between Azhdarchidae, Chaoyangopteridae and Thalassodromidae, and then in Banguela), or even four times (in Myers et al 2013, Dsungaripteridae is recovered as the sister clade to Thalassodromidae, meaning that toothloss occured independently in tapejarids, azhdarchids + chaoyangopterids, thalassodromedids and Banguela). This is definitely more than in the traditional view that Dsungaripteroidea is outside of Azhdarchoidea, in which toothloss would have only occured twice across these two groups.--Chaoyangopterus (talk) 18:37, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Good point. However, now you seem to take for granted that Dollo's Law applies and that inclusion of the Dsungaripteridae within Azhdarchoidea would make the possession of teeth a azhdarchoid synapomorphy. But, as far as I'm aware, that is not the result of any actual cladistic study. I must admit that I haven't read the Headden & Campos paper: if they make this point, it should certainly be included in the article. But if they don't, we may at most refer to the problem by mentioning the Kellner-Unwin controversy about it. In both cases, the relevance of Dollo's Law should be made explicit. I also think that in the article the term "dsungaripteroids" should be consistently replaced by "dsungaripterids" as both the actual clade definitions of Dsungaripteroidea, by Unwin (Germanodactylus + Dsungaripterus) and Kellner (non-archaeopterodactyloid pterodactyloids), denote far more inclusive groups — in fact in each case probably including the Azhdarchoidea! Andres has just published a concept that might be closer to what you have in mind: the Dsungaripteromorpha (non-neopterodactyloid neoazdarchians). Headden hinted in his blog that Banguela might in fact be a somewhat more basal form outside of Dsungaripteridae, which would make it a basal dsungaripteromorph in Andres's phylogeny.--MWAK (talk) 06:36, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Reacquisition of lost features provided they are not under substantial constraint to remain lost has been found to be widespread throughout vertebrates. The notion that it's only a feature of "lower vertebrates"--referring to frogs (can someone get any more taxon-biased!?)-- is absurd. Declaring something subject to Dollo's Law should not be an assumption but the conclusion after an extensive review of all constraints placed on a feature vs its reevolution or NOT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.199.98.16 (talk) 15:43, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

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 * youngest known tapejarid 8aside from the possible tapejarid Bakonydraco galaczi and also the most southern one known. This expansion of their known range was seen as an

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 * or absent in early proboscideans. Proboscideans produced the largest land mammals of all time in the form of Palaeoloxodon namadicus and Mammut borsoni, which weighting around

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 * Yes, Hyaenodonta or Hyaenodontida have been used in several papers (see for example the Apterodon source paper). --Chaoyangopterus, 03:42, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * However, I have not read any papers where either family has been placed in Afroscorida. Which paper was that?--Mr Fink (talk) 01:49, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * See the discussion in the page. Further information can also be seen at here
 * If you review said sources in those pages, you will find no support for it. Further, citing a webpage written by a non-specialist in fossil mammals from almost a decade ago which provides no evidence/sources for speculation is not a justified source for such a claim. 24.131.66.18 (talk) 12:48, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As the IP points out, palaeos is not an authority: that, and the Kerberos paper still posits the hyaenadontids as being laurasitheres, and makes no mention of Afrotheria, let alone placing Hyaenodontidae+Hyainailouridae in Afroscorida.--Mr Fink (talk) 14:05, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Further, palaeos cites Wible et al. (2007) in a speculative manner in the sense of perhaps if x is y and y might also have some tangible connection to z, then there might be something going on with x and z. However, this is not how to carry out science in the first place. Additionally, it is important to understand that taxon sampling within Wible et al. (2007) and subsequent matrices is not strong for placental mammals and the authors never advocate a position that they think or support afrotherian relationships for *Eoryctes* (and they NEVER ever bring up hyaenodontids!). Further, Goswami et al. (2011) which expanded the matrix with several more tenrecids (afrotherians) found *Eoryctes* as a sister to *Solenodon* (a eulipotyphlan in every molecular analysis) and *Eoryctes*+*Solenodon* as the sister to Tenrecidae. Their data set, when constrained for molecular supports, see their supplementary material, finds *Eoryctes* within Laurasiatheria. So this tenuous suggestion that *Eoryctes* having some vague afrotherian affinities is evidence for afrotherian affinities with hyaenodontids that is advocated on palaeos is demolished by this. 24.131.66.18 (talk) 14:16, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

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October 2015

 * I would say that a checkuser "Technically indistinguishable" is hardly slim... Peridon (talk) 17:11, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * They do not cite the reasons for this comparison other than some vague correlation between me and another user.