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Artificial intelligence
Hi CharlesTGillingham. You've added the references "McCarthy 1997" and "Minsky 1985" to the article Artificial intelligence, but have not added the required full cites to the References section. Whenever you use a short form reference, the sfn template for example, you also need to make sure a full cite exists for it to link to (e.g. cite book/cite web/etc). There is a "Minsky 1986" already in the article, did you mean to reference The Society of Mind with "Minsky 1985"? I'm guessing you What is AI for "McCarthy 1997", you will need to create a cite for that, WP:REFB explains how if you need details. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 11:09, 28 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Sorry I formulated that as if you were a new user, only after did I see the "See also User talk:CharlesGillingham" at the top. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 11:10, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Please wait...
I was just about to reply to you and what you suggested. I will review your edits now. A lot is going on. Veritas Aeterna (talk) 19:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

I wanted to reply to:

What we need @Veritas Aeterna:

Here's what I actually want -- I want us to have a history article that describes dominant paradigm of AI research in 60s, 70s and 80s. I believe there is a consensus that such a paradigm existed, that it had incredible initial success, but then ultimately didn't deliver on its promises. I don't care what we call the article -- if it's "GOFAI" that's fine with me. I want the history: who did it, what they did, where they did it, what worked, what didn't work and why it didn't work, who hated it what they decided to do instead. This is the article we need.

Should I build it here?

If so, then are you okay with me cropping the historical elements out of "symbolic AI" and bringing them here? And removing all the low-relevance discussion of terminology from this article (except perhaps a sentence in the lede and a paragraph near the end?). And carefully searching the links pointing into "symbolic AI" to determine which ones should really go to GOFAI (there are a lot)? CharlesTGillingham (talk) 05:10, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't mind if you build separate history sections, but please do not move out the history section in the Symbolic AI article.

I think there were multiple paradigms co-existing throughout the history, as there still are, and the breakdown is NOT clean over decades. So this needs some discussion first.

E.g., Minsky and Papert first starting w neural nets, along with others do cybernetic work, than more emphasis on general problem solvers, then logic (LT), knowledge-based systems, case-based, so on...then a stretch of probabilistic, then 2012 on DL -- now lots going on in neuro-symbolic, too, although I agree DL is "dominant" now.

But the other approaches have hardly gone away. Just not dominant in funding or public's perception, definitely DL and generative AI is there.

Getting caught up on your edits now...

Q: If so, then are you okay with me cropping the historical elements out of "symbolic AI" and bringing them here?

A: No, please leave everything there, I think the article is much more coherent that way. I don't mind if you refer to that section elsewhere, however.


 * I retracted it because I realized that the "symbolic AI" is pretty the article I want. So the only issue left was how to fix this article. At first I tagged it with a million tags, and then eventually I did more research, and just tried fix it. It's still a bit a of a coatrack, but at least it's closer. CharlesTGillingham (talk) 21:41, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Artificial intelligence
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History of artificial intelligence undefined refs
Hi, in this edit you introduce sfn references "Russell & Norvig" with no year, and "Russell & Norvig 2021". Neither source is defined, so cannot be looked up and the article is placed in Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. Please could you fix these? Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 00:47, 30 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Got it, thanks. --- CharlesTGillingham (talk) 06:07, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

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Not alphabetizing references
You added some refs to the references section at History of artificial intelligence, but you just stuck them at the beginning of a sorted list. References are supposed to be alpha by author's last name. See WP:MOSLOW. Please fix your own messes. Skyerise (talk) 11:53, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

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Undefined sfn reference in Artificial intelligence
Hi, in this edit to Artificial intelligence you introduced but there is no such work listed. This means that nobody can look it up, and adds the article to Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. If you could fix this it would be appreciated. DuncanHill (talk) 17:59, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Fixed. CharlesTGillingham (talk) 23:57, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

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