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ex-DNB persons, roles in footnotes
Dear Charles Matthews, Hi! Just an inquiry - I needed to re-incorporate the information about roles into the main text of John Henry Johnstone as I wanted to add some more and weave it together a bit. Then I noticed that, in importing Old DNB text, you had done the same thing (of putting the roles into footnotes) with John Moody, so I guess it's a procedure you are following. My question is, are you especially wedded to this way of presenting the information, or is it more to do with making sure that (In principio when beginning such an article) a plain text has some notes, and isn't too derivative? (In which case it can be altered more as fresh references are brought in). I don't want to wreck your system if it is deliberate or following some Forum convention (I know nothing of such things) but as and when adding into such articles, (and not wholesale), I might wish to re-integrate the roles information into the main text, and I wondered if that was alright with you? Kindest regards, Eebahgum (talk) 10:57, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I put what seems to me heavy detail about roles into footnotes. Such information, I take it, is encyclopedic (useful for reference), yet the "general reader" will not wish to plough through it. By including it we build up a good idea of the stage repertoire of the period. It all will go back to the early theatre historians, such as Genest, and the point would be to build on their work.


 * So, first, I have no real objection to it going back into the main text, if that is done in a way that is going to reduce the dryness of a straight list. Second, I think the information should where possible be amplified, typically by adding authors to titles of plays, and of course linking plays where there is an article. Thirdly, there is arguably an ideal solution, namely to have a separate section which tabulates the roles played. For typical jobbing actors that is not going to happen any time soon. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:11, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thankyou for this clarification. I will try to proceed thoughtfully. Eebahgum (talk) 13:00, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

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South Coast Meetup
Hi Charles, just in case you're in the area. :-)

The South Coast Meetup on 23rd November.

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Ana Mercedes Perez
Just wanted you to let you know that I used the Venezuelan diccionario for the first time and created Ana Mercedes Perez. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Great. A chance to mention to you something else. I'm now preoccupied with this tool, and its impact on Wikidata. A recent addition (scroll down) is the Enciclopedia de la Literatura en México, an online work. The matching that can be done via the tool is the state-of-the-art form of the redlink list (what I had hoped to do with the Diccionario). Very interested currently in expanding the scope of the tool, as well as having people join in with the matching. Can explain more. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:40, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Interesting stuff!♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm quite interested in the matching. Let me know. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:56, 25 October 2014 (UTC)


 * OK, technically it is not too bad: you need to get a Widar account, but that is painless. The easy way in is the gamified version of the unmatched sections: for that just click the [G] link. You are offered potential matches of single names with Q numbers. The simple version is to click the Q number link when the match is clear—and otherwise skip. Anyway that is enough to get started. (You should be prompted about Widar when you first try a match.) Charles Matthews (talk) 18:39, 25 October 2014 (UTC)


 * It's a great tool for comparison, doesn't do much towards the actual workload though!♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:41, 25 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, depends what problem you are trying to solve. We have managed to get 32,000 ODNB identifiers matched to Wikidata: that is mostly to enWP, though there are interestingly other Wikipedias constantly involved. When we are further down the line we should be able to query Wikidata to get lists of, for example, artists having an article in the Italian Wikipedia, not yet one in the English Wikipedia, and also in the ODNB. That would be of some interest.


 * The problem that got me started was this: which are the missing ODNB women here? I had just done the list of missing DNB women, which is gradually getting done, when User:BrainyBabe asked me about the missing ODNB women. Well, we're still working on that, but the matching is the foundational step. In a few months I'd hope to be closer. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:00, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I'll definitely try to tackle a few, I'll put it on my odds and ends page.♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:49, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I got the Widar account squared away. I'll add the matching to my occasional To Do List. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:02, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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Pleased to see your recent additions (though not at all sure about your last one - the new ref doesn't seem to me an improvement, though I may be wrong). I have been toying with the idea of nominating the article for FAC, if Viva-Verdi, who has written a lot of the present text, concurs. It would be of great value to know if you, as an interested editor, think FAC is a reasonable proposition. Your candidest view will be gratefully received. Best,  Tim riley  talk   22:21, 6 November 2014 (UTC)


 * We're probably on slightly different wavelengths here. I don't involve myself in the FA process. You are referring to linking to a page where Corbyn's comments can be read, rather than an entire Gutenberg text in which the reader has to find the sentence meant. Well, partly that is a matter of taste. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:31, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

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That does indeed look dodgy, and I wonder about the lurid detail in Radnorshire Arms, which is not mentioned in the hotel's website. That article was created only the day before the Vaughan one, by another 84.13 IP JohnCD (talk) 22:59, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I had quite a good look on Google to try to get any outside reference, and concluded that this was someone having a laugh. The Presteigne Museum allusion looks plausible, but I got nothing out of it. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:48, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

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 * Yes, thanks, not instant. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:46, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

ODNB/Venn oddity
Here's an interesting one. Thomas Fanshawe seems to be in Venn, the ODNB, and the History of Parliament.

All agree on a DoB of circa 1580, and seem to think he went to Queens' College in 1590(!), taking a BA in 1595. I know the Scottish universities tended to take relatively young boys in those days, but did this happen in England? Even so, ten seems deeply implausible, and even fifteen quite unlikely.

Any idea what the story behind this one might be? The details don't quite seem to work... Andrew Gray (talk) 22:21, 20 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Heneage Finch (speaker) seems to be the same - born 1580, matriculated 1592, BA in 1595/6. Perhaps it was more common than I'm expecting... Andrew Gray (talk) 22:51, 20 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Would mean time at Oxbridge was fulfilling the grammar school function of teaching Latin, I suppose. The pupil may not have been in residence, or may have had a private tutor who saw to most of the teaching. Sons in those days were also signed up early to the Inns of Court. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:14, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, and looking at the ODNB on John Donne, if you were under 16 you potentially avoided subscription (to the royal supremacy, 39 Articles) which Catholic families might object to. Cambridge and Oxford differed on subscription, at least later. The Cambridge pattern was to ask for it at the BA level. Hence you could get your son under the bar by sending him there for a three year course at 12 or 13 ... Charles Matthews (talk) 06:38, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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Scheme_(mathematics)
Dear Charles,

Are you the original author of the above article? (The article history has apparently been corrupted.) I am curious about some of the unreferenced claims there. Artie Prendergast-Smith 2001:630:301:3033:A5A0:84BC:A60F:27AE (talk) 15:37, 5 December 2014 (UTC)


 * So User:AxelBoldt started it, and he's still around. After ten or 11 years it might need to be rewritten: certainly we're more careful these days, if probably less interesting in terms of what is attempted. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:46, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

The reason I asked is that Axel said he actually didn't start it --- he claims that entry in the revision history is a result of a database snafu during one of the upgrades. Since it wasn't you (next most likely candidate) either, it might have to remain a mystery! Artie 109.151.153.179 (talk) 17:51, 5 December 2014 (UTC)


 * That's perfectly possible: my supposed first edit is logged on 25 February 2002, but I'm clear it wasn't me.


 * There is List of Wikipedians in order of arrival/2002. On there User:Toby Bartels edited early logic and category articles: I see he is still here. User:TakuyaMurata would be a strong candidate but maybe arrived just too late? User:Michael Hardy but the wrong kind of mathematics. User:XJaM aka User:XJamRastafire aka would be surprising. Actually IP numbers could start articles then, so ... we may indeed never know.


 * Historical puzzles aside, what troubles you about the article? These days one can reference many things better from Google Books, for example. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:07, 5 December 2014 (UTC)


 * It wasn't me. I don't have any other ideas.  —Toby Bartels (talk) 20:09, 6 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm just curious about the claim that Krull already considered the spectrum of an arbitrary commutative ring in the 1930s. There doesn't seem to be any mention of this in Dieudonne's History of Algebraic Geometry, for instance. I was wondering where the author got this information from. Artie 2001:630:301:3033:6943:4B8:C8E:92F7 (talk) 09:16, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Not easy to answer straight off the bat. Krull wrote a major paper including a theory of local rings (I think) in 1938. There is a reference in the Grothendieck-Serre correspondence to both Krull and Zariski having gone beyond the set of valuations. That is the Zariski–Riemann space on the one hand (valuation rings topologised) and whatever Krull did. So I think he did something! Charles Matthews (talk) 09:44, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Krull published quite a lot (121 papers?). Looking at in a collected papers volume, it may be this: taking a function field and all its "places", if you understand the specialisation order, then you are essentially looking at the Zariski topology of the underlying variety ... Obviously that is not starting with an affine piece, but is a projective view from the outset. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:09, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


 * That is all very helpful, thanks. Lieven Lebruyn has also related a story from Stöhr (a student of Krull), who said that Krull told him he gave a talk in the early thirties about Spec of an arbitrary commutative ring, but audience members dismissed the idea as not useful for understanding "genuine" algebraic geometry. It seems like that is about as far as one can go. Anyway, thanks a lot for the discussion. Best wishes, Artie 2001:630:301:3033:6943:4B8:C8E:92F7 (talk) 10:15, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


 * If the early 1930s, it was probably arising from lattice-theoretic work on ideal theory, which he set up during the 1920s. So, yes, quite possible that Krull had the Spec idea on hand, but the time was unripe. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:19, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

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Thurso
Seasons greetings Charles. Can you find anything on Thurso, particularly history in sources, British history online or whatever? Also Thurso Castle which we've recently started.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:46, 14 December 2014 (UTC)


 * There is Robert Dick, a Victorian worthy. It seems to be an unresolved point whether George MacDonald worked on cataloguing the library at Thurso Castle, or elsewhere: interesting for fantasy fans. The ODNB disagrees with us on Harry George Hawker: was the news of his rescue from the Atlantic known at Thurso first, or the Butt of Lewis, that major media centre (interesting to me after meeting ODNB folk recently). It also seems unclear (ODNB) whether John Gow was from Wick or Scrabster. Altogether it seems there is work to do clarifying some things! There was a local historian of the 19th century I came across, James Traill Calder. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:18, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Nothing in the way of general history though? I was expecting a detailed parish article in British History online but Scotland is poorer covered on there in county publications isn't it? Of course there's a basic Samuel gazetteer entry but nothing of real substance. The British library newspapers source mainly picks up trivial local info on things like bazaars and storms. Perhaps tracing the peerage of the Sinclair family might at least give me something to work with.♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:16, 14 December 2014 (UTC)


 * (e/c) British History Online, that ever-wonderful resource, has a copy of the Topographical Dictionary of Scotland with an entry, but not much else. (I've updated the link in the article to point to this version rather than the Google Books one, as it's more readable). It suggests little happened at the town after 1746, but from memory there was a spate of activity in 1914-18 when the fleet moved to Scapa - the railway line through Thurso was suddenly of major importance and in almost continual use. Can't seem to find any immediate online sources for this, though. Andrew Gray (talk) 18:27, 14 December 2014 (UTC)


 * What the Calder book has is here. There is a quite promising counterfeiting story from 1612. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:14, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Can you or } try to add a bit from there? I was hoping to get it up to GA status but surprised there is no comprehensive history source.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

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Good morning Charles and Happy New Year to you! Can you correct the link to fr wiki?♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:42, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Removed. I can't make it into "Zarzaïtine" on the French WP, because that is a redirect there, to In Amenas. So currently there can't be an interwiki link. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:50, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah I see, thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:58, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for that, Charles. I'm very grateful to you for providing a framework for attacking DNB imports, over the years. I look forward to dnb/odnb/wikidata output when it arrives. I'm going to keep going through the epitome pages and adding by hand, mainly because they're there and because I can. It's prompting the creation of many redirects and disambiguation pages, so there's some utility, even if it will shortly be overtaken by the wikidata approach. I'll try to interleave it with some actual article creation. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:35, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Lord John Wright
Hi there! Thanks for tagging that article. I'm going through and replacing all those atrocious references with reliable ones. That was one of my very first articles on Wikipedia and it's embarrassingly sourced (etc.). I'm removing all the online genealogy stuff. The only thing is, though, is that Wright actually was a peer. Do you mind moving the page back to Lord John Wright instead of Sir John Wright? I'd much appreciate it! :) --Kbabej (talk) 18:12, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello there, and thanks for getting back to me. I'm actually still have problems. What I can see in high-quality references so far is John Wright buying the manor of Kelvedon Hatch in 1538, for £493. So the lordship of the manor would go with that. The page you reference makes claims I'm bothered by. John Wright of Wrightsbridge (1548–1624) is the one said to be a peer, from 1590. I wonder what the title was, Baron Wright? He's not on Wikipedia under that name.


 * The next John was at Emmanuel College, Cambridge. There is an alumnus record on the ACAD database:


 * Adm. pens. at EMMANUEL, Easter 1585. Perhaps s. of John, of Wrightsbridge, Essex. Matric. 1585. Perhaps adm. at Gray's Inn, 08 Jan., 1587/8. Married Mary, dau. of John Mole and niece of Sir Thomas Cheke. Died 1644 . Perhaps father of Laurence (1605-6),John (1614) and Nathaniel (1619)..


 * Referenced to Morant, I. 62; Burke, Ext. Bart.


 * As you can see, the details are different. Philip Morant wrote a county history of Essex; and the Burke will be Extinct Baronetcies.


 * Altogether I'm concerned about identifications. "There were ten successive John Wrights" according to the first reference I gave, and details are said to be in Burke's Landed Gentry (1894). More research needed. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:35, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


 * OK, here is Burke, Landed Gentry in the 1871 edition: The list of John Wrights omits two generations, though. No support there for the "Middle John" and "Lord John". So I'm still worried about this all: no evidence of a peerage in this family. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


 * What about the book here that states it was the same John (Do CTRL+F and search 'Reverend, Sir John Wright')? (And yes, I agree, it's WAY convoluted) --Kbabej (talk) 04:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Is that a self-published book? What is on the Internet Archive has no publication details at all. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Charles. I am Piotr Konieczny (User:Piotrus), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but I am also a professional researcher of Wikipedia. Recently I published a paper (downloadable here) on reasons editors participated in Wikipedia's biggest vote to date (January 2012 WP:SOPA). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors did not take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian (37th to be exact), and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared a short survey at meta, which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Wikipedia researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please WP:ECHO me. Thank you! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 16:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't remember a specific reason. At that period I was working about 35 hours per week on Wikisource. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:24, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking time to respond. Do you have any thoughts about the second set of questions, about whether we (Wikipedians) are well informed about such issues? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:24, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Shrug. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

How To Pick Up More Women ...Care to share your advice?
My proposed Wikimania talk "How To Pick Up More Women" is here. Feel free to shrug, Charles, but your "Missing Women" list will feature. Thanks for the 0.21%


 * No problem. I'm pretty sure that the Wikidata dimension is à propos, and represents a good new direction in finding redlink lists aimed at the gender gap, in particular. Are you familiar with mix'n'match? It is a data entry tool for Wikidata; but the effort can also be used to track down missing persons. Note for example the "Women in Science" and "CLARA" catalogs.


 * So that is at the research end: generating the articles, as you do, is also worth it! Charles Matthews (talk) 20:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks Charles - I'm going to copy your answer back as its a solid reply. I'm not familiar with Mix n Match but I have been using the tool that allows you to create a new article based on wikidata created by xx:wiki. Ive been doing misc women and I do find all these wikiprojects difficult to follow, Ive been following Women Writers but not artists or scientists. Im quite keen on the DNB list as it looks as if that list might be "done" one day. (Even if we keep finding some new ones). Cheers Victuallers (talk) 23:34, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

The Girl Without Address
Evening. Can you fix the wikidata links to The Girl Without an Address by moving them from the redirect page?♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:29, 21 February 2015 (UTC)


 * A bot beat me to it. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:35, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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How do I deal the mysterious threat by IP user (65.183.156.110)
Hi, Charles. Thank you for your great arbitration in January 2012 on the article Additive synthesis. After then, that article have been smoothly developed with the great help of other users.

On the recent, similar problem is occurred again on the related article Wavetable synthesis and the redirection Wavetable. Although I've already started the discussions on these talk pages (Talk:Wavetable and Talk:Wavetable synthesis), an IP user (65.183.156.110) ignored the discussions, started the reverting-war, and finally he threat me with mysterious, poetic words on my talk page. In my eyes, he seems probably the same person (Robert Bristow-Johnson @ music-dsp / banned User:Rbj) who caused trouble on the article Additive synthesis in 2012.

How do I treat this IP user ? I'm glad if I could read you advice. best, --Clusternote (talk) 04:23, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

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Robert Barclay
Hi. I've added a 5 generation ancestry chat for this person, but for reasons I don't understand, it doesn't show up properly. I noticed you wee the most recent previous editor of the page, so I hoped you might be able to tweak it (or tell me how to). Many thanks and apologies, Fillthemill (talk) 21:00, 9 March 2015 (UTC)Fillthemill

Robert Barclay
Hi. I've added a 5 generation ancestry chat for this person, but for reasons I don't understand, it doesn't show up properly. I noticed you wee the most recent previous editor of the page, so I hoped you might be able to tweak it (or tell me how to). Many thanks and apologies, Fillthemill (talk) 21:00, 9 March 2015 (UTC)


 * It took me a while to track down: it was a missing ] in line 13. Fixed now. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:44, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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The Tower House
Hi Charles. contacted a writer of a thesis on The Tower House. as she's calling herself contacted us on 's talk page. Turns out we can't use her thesis as a source after all but we feel it would be good to put her thesis in wikisource so readers can further read it. The thesis is as follows. Hopefully Gerda or Cashen can give you the full title and author details about it: Would this material be OK for wikisource if she can agree to it?♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:14, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


 * According to s:Wikisource:What Wikisource includes, "a thesis that has been scrutinized and accepted by a thesis committee of an accredited university" would be OK in the field of "scientific research". So the question seems to be how close this dissertation comes to the criterion.


 * The normal thing to do as a preliminary would be to ask on s:Wikisource:Scriptorium. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:43, 21 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I think it was University of Frankfurt. Perhaps  can answer that one as she contacted her.♦  Dr. Blofeld  08:32, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


 * It was University of Freiburg, 1984, article said so (ref #63). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


 * In German, then. So you need to think in terms of German Wikisource policies. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:31, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems she doesn't want to put it in wikisource. Thanks anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:23, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Problematic behaviors by a banned user (User:Rbj)
Hi, Charles. Thank you for your valuable advices on disambiguation of Wavetable.

After then, I wrote a new article titled Table-lookup synthesis, as a destination of that disambiguation page. However, problematic IP user 65.183.156.110 (aka 65.183.xxx.xxx, (probably) a banned User:Rbj who have convened meat puppets on music-dsp ML), have been still stalking me and try to stick Speedy Deletion tag db-a11 on the new article.

How I should treat continuous stalking behavior of this banned user ? I'm glad if I could read your valuable advice. best, --Clusternote (talk) 01:06, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Just for your information: I am not a banned user, but I am the editor that you responded to where Clusternote references above . This is a content dispute that Clusternote is afraid to have.  So he removes the delete tag before any discussion regarding the encyclopediac use of the article he created, which I contend is both OR and his created neologism. Clusternote is using Wikipedia to give legitimacy to and to propagate his own creation of terminology. 65.183.156.110 (talk) 01:58, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Stop the stalking immediately! You have always ignored the citations on article, and always claimed personal thought without any reliable sources nor evidence, however, Wikipedia is not the place to claim your personal point of view. --Clusternote (talk) 03:05, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Again Clusternote feels he is entitled to create articles titled with a term not used in the field and which has content that supports Clusternote's own POV of what the terms should be. Because he was not successful in changing either Sample-based synthesis and Wavetable synthesis to meet with his POV, he created a WP:content fork.  That's all Table-lookup synthesis is.  A wp:speedy delete tag has been attached for the specific reason that the term that is the article's title is the invention of Clusternote himself.  Note there is no other editor making content contributions to the article.  It is only Clusternote's private little article that is there to support Clusternote's POV regarding what term means what in the music synthesis discipline.  And it contains multiple errors conflating other synthesis methods that have nothing to do with lookup tables.  It is misleading and does not have the consensus of any group of editors involved in the field (there are some format and non-content edits by one other editor uninvolved with music synthesis articles). 65.183.156.110 (talk) 03:32, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

I have left a comment on Talk:Table-lookup synthesis. Charles Matthews (talk) 04:17, 26 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm glad for your valuable comment ! --Clusternote (talk) 04:26, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

A modest request
Hi Charles, I've been using the Times of London archives pretty extensively in both real life and South American dreadnought race, but their microfilms do not include one particular South American supplement. In my case, that's a problem, as they published a series of articles in 1911 that I think will be very helpful to what I'm writing about: These are all listed in the Annual Index to the Times but, again, aren't included on their microfilm. They are, however, held at the University of Cambridge (|cambrdgedb|2870844 catalog record). Would it be possible to ask you to scan and send these articles to me at some point in the near-ish future? I know that's a big request, and if you can't, no worries. Best, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:56, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * "Naval Strength of South America," 31 Jan 1911, p. 1 (these page numbers are referring to the supplement's pagination... the regular page one has marriages etc.)
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Hi Charles. I was disambiguating Ross Harrison, who is listed at User:Charles Matthews/Phenomenology. I presumed this is Ross Harrison (academic) and updated the page accordingly. Please change if that list is referring to a different Ross Harrison, or revert if you don't want disambiguation done on those pages. Carcharoth (talk) 13:07, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks - it would be the Ross Harrison here, a Cambridge lecturer 41 years ago. So I have no concerns. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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Jonathan Raine
Interesting eye!♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:00, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


 * He did manage to marry. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

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Chris Chivers
Hi Charles. I came across this article. Firstly, if you strip away the froth is he notable? Secondly, if he is notable would you agree it needs some major pruning? I am happy to edit but wanted a second opinion. Many thanks Bashereyre (talk) 10:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi there. I've added like resume to address the content problem. I would say sort into sections, and reduce to about 50% of length, so we can see better. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:52, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

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It seems that I am fated!
I have just posted an article Man and Music Series and 17 minutes later it was cited for deletion. My reason for writing is is that I have found the books most useful as background in writing the Burney/Rees material, and I am sure other WP editors would find it a valuable resource as well. Despite a good search online, there is no other descriptive texts about it. Is it regarded as Original research? I have now Wikified all the Rees Music articles (see my User Page) and am on the last lap of writing the introductions to the lists. Kind regards Apwoolrich (talk) 16:11, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I have removed the PROD notice, and it now cannot be replaced. If the matter is escalated to AfD, then there will have to be a referencing effort. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:23, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Very many thank. Apwoolrich (talk) 17:58, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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Ordination of John Wilkins
I am addressing some questions to you as the number one editor, both in number of edits and text added, of the John Wilkins Page, in hopes you might be interested. Under "Early life", paragraph 2 begins with "After ordination...", which left me wondering if some additional information here, or in prior paragraph, would be useful. Namely, what education did he receive that qualified him for ordination? Was it his BA and MA degrees, mentioned in the previous paragraph? Were they conferred in specific fields, as they are now? And although it may be unnecessary for most readers, perhaps it would be useful to name the church which ordained him, for the sake of, for example, the high school student who is unfamiliar with which religious sects had legal status in England during this time period.

Also, would you take a look at my edits from today and revert any you think are not improvements?

Thank you. Regards, IiKkEe (talk) 11:29, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for dropping by: I was most interested in John Wilkins six years ago, it seems, when I was also working on John Webster (minister), his opponent.


 * For routine life details, Wilkins, though an Oxford man, gets into the Cambridge database: . (That link takes time to load.) So it would be easy to bulk out the biography. Looking in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, however, the whole business is rather more complicated than initially appears, because Wilkins had (conforming) Puritan views. Those three paras therefore need rewriting. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:42, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * By the way, on sections, I prefer to disconnect the "Life" and "Works" parts of a biography completely. Experience shows that this brings clarity: while many encyclopedias interleave the works with the life to some extent, they don't have the issues we do in knowing quite where to insert life details before/after publications (because they are not editable).


 * I'll try to look at the article later today. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:52, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

DNB
Something recently reminded me that we're still missing so many DNB/ODNB articles on here. There's little excuse for that given the size of the project. I think I'll resume with creating a lot of the DNB entries from wikisource again. Always have a job remembering what the name of the citation templates are for the supplements! You might want to check Robert Calder Allen, cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * One of the cool things about Wikidata is that I can now give some answers in this area. There are 39,955 articles here where the Wikidata item has an OBIN (i.e. ODNB) number. There are 57,433 OBIN-linked items on Wikidata. So that looks like about 17,500 missing. Of those, just under 7,000 are DNB cases. But there is a major caveat: what we call "sub-articles" and what the ODNB calls "co-subjects" are included. For example, plenty of non-notable sons of notable fathers, if the DNB puts them into small caps.


 * So I wouldn't like to hazard a guess about how many notable articles are missing. It is obviously more than 10K and I'd say less than 15K. On women, the numbers are 5658 and 3840: i.e. the "missing women", with the notability caveat, comes out at 1818 today. But the gendered numbers change all the time, because there are about 2K genders still to add.


 * When we have done the genders, we'll get interesting stats. For comparison, for the DNB alone, there were about 200 missing women, and they are mostly there now since WikiProject Dictionary of National Biography/Missing women is nearly all blue.


 * Be my guest, anyway, on the seven topical lists. There is also the chunkier list which is from one of Magnus's scripts, and goes a bit funny round letter H, and I'm still formatting. But is the best survey of the major stuff I have. You'll find many of the remaining to-do DNB articles are rather stubby. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:43, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Charles for those figures. I think I'll resume working through alphabetically, that's why A is almost done as I've started a lot of them over the years! This currently states 6927 not with wikipedia links from the DNB anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:03, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Yup, that's the basic way to track. But the tool I used in the past to find the recent creations needs maintenance; so that figure is a bit too high. Nemmind, go for it!


 * Just one more thing: Wikidata can identify translation possibilities. I've just checked that there are 54 ODNB people who could be translated from Spanish for example, and 286 from German. All these numbers can in principle be turned into redlink lists. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:48, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Gosh, that's embarrassing isn't it that other wikis have the articles and we don't! The problem with Spanish wiki using English language sources though is that there's often copyright problems and wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them turned out to be very closely paraphrased once translated! German wikipedia is general though doesn't seem to have that problem.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:07, 27 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Of my recent articles, Claude Lucien Bergery was based on frWP, and Léon Lalanne on deWP (the both turned up on Charles Babbage). If these are typical, then the referencing is quite scanty, and the articles not very developed: it's like starting from a weakish stub. But something to get you off the ground is welcome, at least for biographies. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:45, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

John Wilkins
I am very glad to see someone making real improvements to the article on Wilkins -- one of my favorite people and, as I told someone, "the most interesting person you never heard about in school." A remarkable man. Keep it up and let me know if I can help somehow. (I'll be traveling for a few weeks, however.) EEng (talk) 17:25, 28 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Why, thank you. I was prompted in a thread above. I haven't really got started yet. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:56, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

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Intertranswiki
Hi Charles. I've recently kick started to the WikiProject Intertranswiki project trying to match up articles in categories between wikipedias. User:Ipigott also raises a good point about the amount of work needed creating categories and matching them up to other wikis, which I think this project should also be involved in. As you do a lot of work on wikidata presumably with this sort of thing could you comment at User talk:Ipigott and suggest a way how a bot or something might be used to create lists of categories needing creating and working with wikidata?♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:11, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * It sounds as if the current approach is both "by hand" and ad hoc. Even basic use of Wikidata should make life easier.


 * This query lists châteaux with no enWP link. Unfortunately that tool is not so reliable: technical issues. This one lists châteaux with an enWP link (880), while this one just lists châteaux, highlighting in red when there is no enWP lk. There are 4537 there! Seems like a high number, but I guess Wiki Loves Monuments is responsible for many "data" additions.


 * Anyway, existing technology already has plenty to offer. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:39, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. See what I mean about how much is missing? We need editors simply creating stubs matching up the articles I think. How about missing categories, categories on wikidata which only have one category in the given language and none in English? ♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * That's a bit harder - no pat answer I think. One aspect to notice is that in a sense Wikidata queries can replace categories. That's a key thing I have learned from Magnus. There are over 1500 properties on Wikidata, and they can be combined in most cases with an item to give a huge variety of queries that cover much of the ground that categories do, and more. For example I've just "dialled up" a query on occupation=novelist and there are 12379 hits. Add in that they are Finnish and 3 hits only: it turns out they are all covered here. Change one digit for Swedish novelists and there are 14: again all here. Change one more digit for Danish, there are 9, and one is missing: Ernesto Dalgas, more of a philosopher, Ernesto Dalgas, and Ернесто Далгас for that matter. Ernesto Dalgas is the Wikidata page, and there is an image link to Commons there.


 * Well, hoping this isn't too much of a hard sell, but it really isn't hard to see how useful this could be. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:17, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * BTW, I've checked how many novelists don't have a nationality entered, and it's over 9000. Of the 12379, the number with an enWP link is 9280. So 3099 are "missing". You can see that some sort of further division is going to be handy. Also, the situation is very dynamic.


 * The suggested type of "interwiki" solution would be a link farm of queries, each of which has a fairly definite scope. Charles Matthews (talk) 13:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Yup, amazing what you find when you look into it. I believe we have something like 33 million articles in total now, I wonder how many of those are unique ones not on English wikipedia at present.♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * For humans, the Wikidata figures are: 2,773,724 marked, 1,261,559 with a link to enWP. So less than 50% are here. Of course no one sits down to a list of 1.5 million redlinks to polish them off.


 * Overall there is a counting issue, and Wikidata has stuff not related to any Wikipedia these days. Humans are getting on for 20% of the total. Counting places could probably be done, but I doubt there is as a slick an answer. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:22, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Would it be fair to say that there are Wikipedia entries (on humans, etc.) which don't have a Wikidata entry? And if yes, do you have a guestimate of numbers or percentages? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Certainly: when I create an article here, I create the Wikidata entry if it isn't yet there. There was a big importing push last year, so at one point enWP was pretty fully covered. Now there is a lag. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:17, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


 * So I suppose that nearly 99% of entries here have Wikidata entries. I think the point is that creation isn't automatic when an article is created: too many deletions would result. So there is a period of a couple of months: at least that appeared to be the case when I looked in the latter part of 2014. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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I think we should probably merge this and the Intertranswiki project into one Missing Articles project. The problem is the scale of it, and I don't want to scare off my intertranswiki contributors by something too big.♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:21, 15 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Not quite the same things, though. Types of systemic bias exist that wouldn't be corrected by filling in the interwiki gaps.


 * You're right that a single project couldn't cover all the ground sensibly. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:24, 15 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The thing is, the intertranswiki project isn't just transwikiying content. I see it as a general attack on systematic bias, see the stub focus this month for instance, half of them are not even transwiki and general missing articles including geo stubs for Pacific islands, Vietnamese restaurants etc which don't even have articles on other wikis. The vision is generally the same from my perspective anyway, and I think most of the participants in Intertranswiki also see it as a general project against systematic bias and would welcome anything towards it. The problem is that it's an extremely broad thing to try to cover all in one project, and of course there's many many missing articles on anglo nations which already have hundreds of articles, so that can't really be seen as counteracting systematic bias. If the three project could remain closely connected somehow without actually formally merging that would be a positive thing I think, I've already made it clear Intertranswiki is sort of an extension of the missing articles project..♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)


 * There would be a general Wikidata perspective on this: for notable, missing topics, create a Wikidata item containing key information. It will then show up in queries run there, and can be visualised as a type of stub using a tool like Reasonator. Queries as lists of suggestions/redlinks can be tailored to turn up particular areas of interest, and everything is language-independent, in principle.


 * This has already been done for the ODNB, by the way, in terms of creating "spare" items. Charles Matthews (talk) 04:52, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

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Was the parish of Trelawny, Jamaica named after Governor Edward Trelawny (1738-1753) or Governor William Trelawny (1767-1772)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.143.114.14 (talk) 20:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The latter, according to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography article on the former. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:29, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

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Hope you're well Charles. Can you find anything else on this chap?♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Wikidata told me at once that ... he is in the ODNB. Family background in the Gas Light and Coke Company. Strike-breaking against the Gas Workers' Union. Band of Hope. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. Amazes me such people are still missing, His father would meet GNG too.♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


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When you're using  to format the appearance of a page's title, be sure to use a colon ":" after the word DISPLAYTITLE, rather than a pipe "|". That is to say, use  rather than. It's an extremely small thing, I know, but it's the way that is recommended. The reason being is that DISPLAYTITLE is a magic word, a special variable, and those use colons. Using a pipe is for templates; using the colon (and thus, the magic word) is just that little bit quicker for computer processing.

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Journal access?
Hi Charles, Wondering whether you might be able to help. User:Dr Blofeld said that you might have access to this article in a Society of Antiquaries journal (pub. by CUP). If you do, it would great to see a pdf or whatever. Many thanks, Ericoides (talk) 08:09, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

If you and Charles think such journals would be valuable for wikipedia research you can always propose it at The Wikipedia Library/Databases/Requests. Perhaps a general agreement with access to all Cambridge University Press journals would be possible? Definitely worth asking for. Recently I was successful in proposing an agreement with the largest newspaper resource online, Newspaperarchive.com.♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:27, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

,, Any ideas on how to proceed?♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:49, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Dr. B, a proposal at /Requests is definitely a possibility, but for quicker access to a single article the Resource Exchange is a good bet. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:30, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Would it be worth going for User:Andrew Davidson and User:Johnbod? I'm happy to propose a Cambridge University Press journal agreement as part of the wiki library if people think it would be worth it.♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The_Wikipedia_Library/Databases/Requests... Nikkimaria (talk) 13:24, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Aha, so it has been proposed.♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:36, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * In general we have had some really interesting stalled conversations with them, where the central office has offered a firm no, even though we find interest elsewhere. In the short term, WP:EBSCO Academic Complete has some of their offerings, and will likely be a good in between:, alongside RefDesk. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 21:09, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

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Anne Marsh
Hi Charles Matthews.

You created the re-direct Anne Marsh, which leads to Anne Marsh-Caldwell. Now Anne Marsh (professor) was recently created, with a talk page comment "...to repair a misdirected link to the 19th century author Anne Marsh-Caldwell". I think that the good prof. could be easily moved to 'Anne Marsh', no?

I have mentioned the possibility at Talk:Anne Marsh (professor). 220  of  Borg 10:19, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't object, but looking at what links to it there is something to sort out. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:07, 2 November 2015 (UTC)