User talk:Charleslau

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Hello, Charleslau, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! JohnCD (talk) 14:07, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
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Wikipedia is not for writing about yourself
Hi. Welcome to Wikipedia, but it is not a place like LinkedIn or Facebook for people to write about themselves. It is a quite different sort of site, a project to build an encyclopedia, so it is selective about subjects for articles, and writing about oneself is strongly discouraged, for reasons explained at Wikipedia is not about YOU and Autobiography. The links in the Welcome message at the top of this page will tell you more about Wikipedia. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:07, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for helping me understand Wikipedia better.
Hi JohnCD, great to hear from you. I am still learning how to update wikipedia. Is this sandbox ok for me to play in?

I thought of writing about myself to get this initial page started so that other people can make further amendments to it along the way. Is this ok?

Charleslau (talk) 14:48, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Advice
There are two kinds of pages on Wikipedia: the pages of the main encyclopedia, known as the "main space" and "behind the scenes" pages of various kinds like user pages, sandboxes, help and policy pages.

If you were thinking of writing a main-space encyclopedia article about yourself, as I have said above that is strongly discouraged, and I must also explain that Wikipedia is quite selective about subjects. This is by no means the Myspace/Facebook/LinkedIn sort of site where people and companies write about themselves. The inclusion criterion is called Notability, and requires references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? More detail at WP:Notability (summary) and WP:Notability (people).

That is quite a demanding test, and many worthy people and organizations cannot pass it, which is not at all to their discredit, but means they are not suitable subjects for a global encyclopedia. From the summary on your user page, I have to say that I do not see notability in the Wikipedia sense, and I think that if you posted an article about yourself it would get deleted.

If that is what you came here for, I am afraid you are in the wrong place; but if you would like to contribute to the project of building a free encyclopedia, you are very welcome to join in.

User pages like User:Charleslau are for the volunteers, who are here to help, to say something about themselves and their Wikipedia work, in order to assist communication within the project. From the policy page WP:NOTWEBHOST: "Wikipedians have their own user pages, but they should be used primarily to present information relevant to working on the encyclopedia. Limited biographical information is allowed, but user pages should not function as personal webpages or be repositories for large amounts of material that is irrelevant to collaborating on Wikipedia. If you are looking to make a personal webpage or blog or to post your résumé, please make use of one of the many free providers on the Internet or any hosting included with your Internet account."

Your present user page is just about acceptable, but if you made into any more of a CV or detailed bio, or if after some time it turns out that you are not making other contributions to the encyclopedia, it might be nominated for deletion under the guideline WP:FAKEARTICLE.

You may certainly experiment or develop articles in the sandbox, though the FAKEARTICLE principle applies there too: "Userspace is not a free web host and should not be used to indefinitely host pages that look like articles."

I hope this does not seem too unwelcoming; because Wikipedia is so keen for everyone to come and help, it does not do as much as in my opinion it should to explain when people join that it is a project to build an encyclopedia and that is all it is, so that people too often join under the impression that it is another Myspace or Facebook. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:26, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Well noted on your advices
Thanks JohnCD for a detailed explanation. You are really helpful and I can't imagine how many people you have probably explained the same thing repetitively. But it is greatly appreciated.

Yes, I would like to help out in fine tuning the articles. Especially when I saw the articles in "e-marketing" (which is forwarded to "online advertising") and "digital marketing" are not well written. And these are the actual things that I do in Epson every day.

I was orientating myself with how others editing the articles and updating the user pages. I just thought of updating my user page with what I have already written. Thanks for letting me know that it is acceptable.

Will be spending some time working on the articles (as mentioned above)

Charleslau (talk) 01:52, 7 June 2013 (UTC)