User talk:Charliebarsby

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Hello, Charliebarsby, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Summerdrought (talk) 03:22, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
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Woomera Test Range
I removed your comment on Woomera Test Range. Please use talk:Woomera Test Range to discuss ways of improving the article. Adding comments to the article makes it difficult to reply without disruption. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 09:44, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

editing articles
Hi Charliebarsby. Thank you for your recent additions to the Woomera articles, which are welcome. May I recommend that you have a look at the Manual of Style for assistance with the layout and style of wording for the encyclopedia. Information which is added to an article's main page needs to have verifiable inline references cited, usually meaning that the information comes from a published source. Wikipedia does not condone personal research as a verifiable source. Presently, the Woomera articles have insufficient verifiable citations, and would be greatly improved by their addition if you have access to some. Many thanks. Summerdrought (talk) 22:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello Charliebarsby, I have replied to your question on my Talk page. regards, Summerdrought (talk) 02:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi again, a response to your next message is on my Talk page. Did you know that if you write something (anything) on your user page your user name will turn blue, and you will be able to set up a watch list of pages of your choice, and remain logged on for about 30 days?  It saves a lot of mucking around!  kind regards, Summerdrought (talk) 10:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello again Charliebarsby, thanks for your latest note. Fancy that, Gordonvale! We have been in Cairns 20 years now, happily retired with no plans to move in a hurry. With grown up daughters (and families) in BNE, DRW, and SYD, Cairns is well placed for flying visits. Yes, I have the Ian Bayly book, which I have used for some references, and agree with your sentiments regarding his bias. I noticed some errors also. Do you have Mark Shephard's biography of LB? I presume you must have heard of it by now, and a great book it is too. I would be very interested to read your article about the "Beadell Rescue", is there any chance of an emailed copy? My most recent article on Wikipedia is about Len's Mount Davies Road. I glossed over the actual rescue due to lack of knowledge, and the only real source being Len's own description. Perhaps you can fill in the blanks on the article, it would be good to have a history of the event included.

Shame about the Survey Corps' attitude, I thought it ironic that the civvy surveyors did not want to give him the formal qualification, as he had trouble passing English; after writing six books! I reckon I would have followed him anywhere, just like the blokes who stuck with him for 8 years or more. All the best CB, Summerdrought (talk) 01:41, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Summerdrought (why isn't this blue?), thanks for the reply. Hope I have the method of reply correct by just entering via (Edit). I must "discover" how to link to other pages as I want to keep tabs on what is being written on the Woomera Test Range. Similar situation with us regarding retirement, no children but still together after almost 42 years. Had too many moves in the Army and three since discharge in 1985 so the next move is out the front door in a box. My wife got me a surprise copy of A Lifetime in the Bush. We had recently moved back to Woomera for the second period of permanent residence and Ian McNamara was doing an OB for the 50th Anniversary celebrations. She was able to have it signed by Macca, Anne and Connie Sue Beadell and the Author. I was very appreciative of her effort. OK on the e-mail copy of the LB rescue; how do we achieve this? Len writes about it briefly in one of his books however his diary doesn't match what he wrote so he must have been writing from memory. I will have a read of your Mount Davies Road article. Bayly has copied the same error that LB wrote. I'll go back through some correspondence and give you a reference. LB's schooling was interrupted by WWII and also Mark Shepherd doesn't have the events of 1949 correct. One of the reasons that he went back to Sydney in December 1948 (arrived by train on 8th) was to attend night school to gain his two remaining Leaving subjects. He achieved this with a pass in English and Geology so this gave him the required education standard. He had spoken to Alan Butement (Chief Defence Scientist for the LRWE) before departing Adelaide in early December 1948 and had arranged to write to him late in 1949 regarding employment as a "civvy" with LWRE. You would have seen the name mentioned in one of LB's books. As the Surveyors Board would not recognise his previous experience I guess his remote area employment prevented him from attending the necessary classes in Adelaide. I am glad that he decided that his employment might be a better option than gaining the formal qualification otherwise today we would not have the wonderful accounts of his experiences. There is another key player in the early days of LWRE who rarely rates a mention. He is a RAAF Squadron Leader by the name of Alexander Kenneth Garden (known as Ken). He led the last of four Reconnaissance Journeys (as they were called) May - September 1951. LB was one of three surveyors the other two being Survey Corps Sergeants. These two went on to achieve high rank in the Survey Corps and one was the Corps Director for a time. They are both still alive and I corresponded with them last year. Something happened on that Journey and they have not been forthcoming with the detail. I guess that this is where the issue with the Survey Corps may have been born. Who knows and it has no affect on what LB achieved. Garden was awarded the MBE for his efforts at the Emu Atomic Tests during 1953 and took his discharge early in 1954. That's another story in itself. I tracked down Garden's sole surviving son and he told me that Garden and LB did not get on too well. Anyway how do I get the Beadell Rescue article to you as my name is on it as with my e-mail address? I have no issue with this provided it does not get on to Wiki. Must look for a spell checker. Kind regards, Charliebarsby (talk) 09:12, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Morning Summerdrought, deleted as requested. No need for the "code" as I have sent you an e-mail. I meant to copy your last to a "Word" page for further investigation however I pressed Ctrl D instead of Ctrl C. Have fun at the dentist, I've recently had two crowns and a bridge which was a first time experience. About six hours in the chair all up. Kind regards, Charliebarsby (talk) 22:18, 22 May 2013 (UTC)