User talk:Charlynet

Your edit to George Stephenson
Hi Charleynet, and welcome to Wikipedia. You will see in the page history that I have reverted your addition to George Stephenson, because of the phrase "a number of people...believe". In WP-speak this is a "weasel term", and there's a whole essay on it here. Please don't be discouraged: stick with it! --Old Moonraker (talk) 09:42, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I am a bit new to this and still have much to learn! Charlynet (talk) 10:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Now we're getting somewhere, but signatures are reserved for discussion pages only (a link here). As you say, a lot to get to grips with. --Old Moonraker (talk) 10:16, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Sussex villages
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles or other Wikipedia pages. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia.

I have read the section on advertising or promotional. These links on various Sussex village pages are to a free non-commercial project giving free census transcriptions of each of the villages. They are free to view and are invaluable to people engaged in family research. Please feel free to look for yourself.
 * Sussex Family History

Charlynet (talk) 07:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Charlynet, it would appear that the entire website that you are linking to is a lot of original research, or at least a synthesis of other documents. I do not believe that it's necessarily promotional, but tertiary resources like this cannot be used as a reliable source ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 11:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Just to expand a bit more, there is some evidence that you operate the site in question which would mean that there is conflict of interest. Further, all the pages contain revenue generating advertising links plus a section of the website is a shop window for various paid for services. I accept you created the links in good faith, wishing to share your research, but it has come across as advertising. SpikeTheSpider (talk) 20:57, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I would like to point out that all of the census and parish record information on the site is transcribed from original documents and this is the purpose. You could not say the bible is not acceptable as it is copied from an original text. All of my site is verifiable from original census documents and parish registers and also it is not a created work formed on an opinion which of course would really require an expert to self publish.

With regards to advertising, all proceeds from advertising goes towards the upkeep of the site which, due to the amount of data and traffic, is growning all the time. I don't think this is unreasonable. Please note "Donate to Wikipedia" on the left of your screen!

As you pointed out there is another, quite seperate, part of my site that does offer paid services. This is not very accessible from sussexfamilyhistory and also work from a different domain name (familytreedesigns) but doesn't have seperate hosting as this would make it even more expensive. I have also made more recent changes to seperate the two even more which make it difficult to even get to the paid services part of the site. Charlynet (talk) 18:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * As I said, I accept you created the links in good faith. The policy WP:EL states it is not Wikipedia's purpose to include a comprehensive list of external links related to each topic.


 * The policy then states If the website or page to which you want to link includes information that is not yet a part of the article, consider using it as a source for the article, and citing it. This is my advice, I would be happier if you took the key facts from the Sussex Family History website, expand the appropriate articles and cite the website as your source. Some other editors may claim WP:OR or WP:RS or WP:COI but as you said your site is just transcripts from a source that would not otherwise be readily accessible. Good luck! SpikeTheSpider (talk) 09:50, 31 October 2009 (UTC)