User talk:Chas.tanner

Reed Publications
For the circulation data and other references in those articles, you should try to find third party sources. Self referencing sources (links to reed sites) don't really count. pw 21:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

What is really needed
I've been working in large part on improving articles about magazines and journals since i joined WP--I'm now one of the many administrators here--so let me tell you what is actually needed for improving these articles, because improvement is needed, and in more respects than mentioned above. (I was meaningto get around to Elsevier one of these days, but it's so big I wanted to save it for last) With respect to trade magazines, the article should:
 * Give information about how frequently it is published, the starting date of publication, any previous titles, and the dates of title changes.
 * If it is available online, say so, and give the date of beginning availability.
 * List the editor in chief, if there is one. Say what company or institution he comes from. Put a link for his name and the institution name. WP uses these links in evaluating importance of the people. Even if its a red link, use it, so we know we might need an article. If the company or institution is red, check if you have the proper form.
 * List the major indexes that cover it--just the major ones, and just the relevant ones--for example, Chem Abs indexes every journal that ever has a chemical article, but just the chemical articles, so its only appropriate for chemistry & engineering title. If it's covered by web of science or by scopus, say so.
 * If it should be in Journal citation reports--a few trade magazines are--give the current impact factor in the form:

The 2006 impact factor is x.xx, which is 4th of 40 in the engineering subject category. the "of 40" part is to clarify if its 4th of 4, or 4th of 40. Give a footnote reference to Journal Citation Reports (brackets as specified) If you give these for any, you must give them for all journals, even if they are last in the class. But if they are not included, you don't have to say anything.
 * Give the circulation, if you give it for all magazines of the class. The reference for this can be BPA--if you use it include the word "audited" (and please write an article on BPA so people know what it is) but I normally use Ulrich's, even though the figures are approximate. Link to Ulrich's.
 * ALWAYS give the ISSN, both print and online.
 * Use the journal infobox template on at least all academic publications--no reason not to use it for them all.
 * If it is a controlled-circulation journal say so, and help me write a page explaining what that is.

It should not:
 * List the editorial board, or any people other than the editor in chief.
 * Have the typical sentence used in ads and web pages: "This magazine is intended for ... (it's almost always obvious), but if the contents or orientation is much different than expected from the title, it should say so.
 * mention pricing, or through what packages it is available.

Optionally (this is an experiment) If it is available through major full-text service like Lexis or Ebsco, say so, linking them. If there is an embargo period, give it, using a link to embargo (academic publishing) The symbol just before the closing brackets is a vertical pipe symbol, usually shift-backslash, so it comes out reading just embargo.

As for categories, we're still experimenting. Separate posting.

If any articles should get deleted by speedy, or threatened, please let me know and I will check what's up and give my opinion. There is a level of significance below which we do not go. Or if there are other problems. If someone suggests that any of the above material is not appropriate, please let me know so i can discuss t with him. Better me than you. DGG 23:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. Please, please, fix the existing articles before continuing to add any more.
 * as for article titles: The word magazine should be in the title of the article ONLY if it is part of the formal title of the publication. Usually Ulrich's is the best source for that--library catalogs follow their own peculiar rules, and what appears on the cover changes from time to time. Otherwise the distinguishing term (magazine) is to be added in parentheses, all as specified by the wikipedia manual of style, WP:MOS. Yes, WP has a style manual, and does try for consistency. Please check on the ones you moved and let me know which have to be moved back and I'll do it for you--it will usually be necessary to delete a redirect (automatic cross-reference) page, which only an admin can do. Please keep in touch. DGG 22:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)