User talk:Chatgames

User:Chatgames


A tag has been placed on User:Chatgames, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of User:Chatgames and leave a note on |the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mean as custard (talk) 08:35, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010
Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended or used for publicity and/or promotional purposes. Please read the following carefully.

Why can't I edit Wikipedia?

Your account's edits and/or username indicate that it is being used on behalf of a company, group, or organization for purposes of promotion and/or publicity. The edits may have violated one or more of our rules on spamming, which include: adding inappropriate external links, posting advertisements, and using Wikipedia for promotion. Wikipedia has many articles on companies, groups, and organizations, but it is considered inappropriate for such groups to use Wikipedia to write about themselves. In addition, usernames like yours are disallowed under our username policy.

Probably not. See WP:FAQ/Organization for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the conflict of interest guidance to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, or organization. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit again. Consider using one of the many websites that allow this instead.
 * Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?

You are still welcome to write about something other than your company or organization. If you do intend to make useful contributions on some other topic, you must convince a Wikipedia administrator that you mean it. To that end, please do the following:
 * What can I do now?


 * Add the text on your user talk page.
 * Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:Listusers to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy.
 * Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In this reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, please see how to appeal a block. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   09:53, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

what kind of website is this? delete a page then delete the user stopping any feedback? i was trying to do a general reference page for an online community i am part of and have been for many years now. i hadnt even published it, just written in some text and saved it for editing later. i didnt suggest it was added to any encyclopedia, i just wanted to do a page of reference that could be editted as changes are made.

class advice on "how to appeal a block" as i cannot post on the blocker's page as the account has been banned and deleted, also it would appear that i am not the only person subjected to this kind of censorship. amazing, i can edit and type information about companies and businesses yet not one word is permitted about a community that has been around for more than a decade. truly bizarre! Chatgames (talk) 18:21, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Your userpage appeared to be an advert and we don't allow usernames matching "real world" companies or organisations. That's why you were blocked. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   18:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

explain please how i am able to do a reference page, for the gamerx client software and for the community so that people can be directed to a wiki reference for instructions on how to use it? i have seen many other pages listing instructions and general information about websites/software and communities online. ta Chatgames (talk) 18:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Further evidence exists of why this page should not be deleted, compare a general reference for the software used and the web community to the following wikipedia entry,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FunTrivia How are they different? This page is one of many on wikipedia, why is it acceptable for one community and not another? Funtrivia even advertise openly on their page that they are a business and charge people for membership, whereas chatgames is completely free and always has been. Chatgames (talk) 10:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * 1) That article wasn't created by somebody with a username the same as the page name, an obvious sign of a conflict of interest.
 * 2) That article is in article space, not user space. When such a page is on a user page, it's most likely spam.
 * 3) That article has many third-party references to substantiate facts and establish notability. Did yours?

Is that enough? 69.181.249.92 (talk) 10:35, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Given a longer period of time than the 15 minutes I had when I started what I thought was an article of reference, it would have referenced "gamerx" trivia/chat software client, history of the community going back to before the days of microsoft comic chat, with third party references to substantiate facts. The article would have also referenced how to install and use the "gamerx" chat/trivia client. The availability of the sound wav files on independant yahoo user groups, again, all completely free. The article would also have referenced special holiday "quiz marathons" and fundraising events, that keep the whole community free for anyone with an internet connection, a community with members through out the world who use it, completely free, a rare occurance online in this day and age.
 * 1) So I should change my username? thats fine, I am not the owner of the community, cannot do this as it would appear I am blocked.
 * 2) Article is in userspace? I only made a start on a reference page, didn't realise it was a userpage, how can a page be set up as a general reference without being tied in to a userpage?
 * 3) That article - is openly advertising and linking to a business, the page I had just made a start on, started referencing an online community that has always been 100% free to access by anyone with an internet connection.

I made a start on what I thought was a reference page, then saved it. Before I could add to it, it was jumped on by an administrator, my user account was blocked and the page was put up for speedy deletion. When I posted a hang on to stop a speedy deletion, another admin came and removed it, on the grounds that the page and user were not up for speedy deletion - even though it states this on the page! Wiki instruction even states that user: chatgames should edit the page. Chatgames (talk) 11:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) So is that enough? No, I don't believe it is.