User talk:ChelseaBaron

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Helo, I'm new to Wicky it is learning curve for me. Since your are Senior I would seek on advise on how to proceed with the following situation : The October 22 parliament shooting articles were mainly based on press release that surfaced on the first day. Unfortunately once the June 1 OPP independent came it turns that a lot material was totally inaccurate. Most of the material released after June 1 paint a totally picture especially as to what happen inside the parliament building and the final show down with the killer. There is a somewhat accurate note added after the June 1 OPP report which contradicts the ends contradicting the earlier part of the article. How should I approach this ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChelseaBaron (talk • contribs)


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 * Your edits were reverted because they made significant changes without explicitly citing a source. You alluded to the OPP report, but you'll need to be a lot more specific about the source if you're going to make an assertion naming another officer. This is required by Wikipedia's policy on biographies. Please use the talkpage to discuss. Other editors can help you with assessing, formatting and inserting the reference.  Acroterion   (talk)   15:23, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your patience. The release of the independent OPP report was massively publicized, from the House Common Press conference to all major newspapers and all major news networks and I figured that updating Vickers bio with well know facts would not be a big deal. 2 months after the OPP report, the Vickers bio was not updated,  I assumed that no one had any interest from the editors the corrections. I was trying to put things in context in the summary, next time around I will be provide restrict my summary to to my changes.

The changes I'm proposing to the Vickers bio would also be connected to the October 22 shooting parliament article. I would assume that changes to both these articles would be required.

Changes to the Vickers bio.

1) Vickers was not the only one who shot massively at Bibeau. - Constable Barrett name surfaced up as early as October 24 -

- The June 1 OPP report confirmed that Zehaf-Bibeau was shot over 31 times, he could not have delivered these shot with his 9mm handgun.

2) Vickers did not initiate the gunman, it is Bibeau that step away from the column and took a shot a Barret.

- Constable Barrett organized an led the IRD - This was captured on video and released shortly after the shooting and can see Barrett gun drawn waking down the hall trying to find Bibeau. In the version with sound you clearly ear Barrett yell "Where is he ". In this CBC footage, you can catch a glimpse of Vickers standing behind the pillar opposite to Bibeaus location.. As indicated by the reporter, as Barrett is closing in,   Bibeau steps away from the pillar and shot towards Barrett, at this point  Vickers went on the ground and then both Vickers and Barrett unloaded their weapons and Barrett delivered the final blow to the head that put the gunman down for good. .

Are these explanations sufficient to support the changes I made to Vickers Bio ?

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