User talk:Chenzw/Archives/Mar 2018

Request on 14:35:55, 6 March 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Aido92
Sorry, but I don't understand your rejection criteria. I followed the format and tone of other Wikipedia pages, having looked at several for similar subjects. Furthermore, I provided many more independent, verifiable sources than many of the articles I looked at, as well as fully cross-referencing to existing Wikipedia pages where relevant. I don't understand what more I can provide, or what needs to be altered to meet submission standards, as, from my reading of the standards, the article fully complies.

How does it read like an advert? I do not understand what that means. Do I simply need to remove the one reference which Professor Hall, herself, created, from the article? Do I need to remove the external links?

Please provide me with feedback, as this was my first complete article submission, and I really don't understand where I went wrong, as I was so careful to attempt to be comprehensive, verifiable, and to meet the guidelines for creating an article

Aido92 (talk) 14:35, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * This article should not be written as a CV. By "cross-referencing to existing Wikipedia pages", I assume you are talking about the internal links to other articles; that, while a sign of a well-written article, was not a consideration in making the decision to accept/reject the article. Chenzw    Talk   14:45, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Assistance on Draft
Hello Chenzw, I saw my recent draft for [http://Draft:Strata_Systems_Inc.%20Strata%20Systems%20Inc. Strata Systems Inc.] was rejected but I do not understand why. Can you point out to me the sources that were problematic and why? I tried to find reliable sources and would like to understand why they will not work and how I can find better sources. Thank you! Adapt16 (talk) 14:36, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Not only must sources be reliable, they must be independent as well; a significant portion of your sources, for example, are mere product listings/brochures. Roughly speaking, the sources you should look for should be about what other people say about the company. Please see WP:ORGDEPTH and WP:ORGIND for more information. Chenzw  Talk   15:09, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

13:15:00, 8 March 2018 review of submission by Marliabhall
I would like to post this article. What am I missing?

Marliabhall (talk) 13:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It seems that you did not read the comments before you asked on my talk page. You are required to cite your sources. For more information on how to do that, please see Help:Referencing for beginners. Chenzw    Talk   13:17, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

I give up
I wanted to help by contributing to Wikipedia, but it's too complicated. I give up. My article keeps being rejected. Tommycarstensen (talk) 19:38, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Outhentic draft updated
Hello, Chenzw! I made some edits to my draft based on your feedback. Could you please check the draft - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Outhentic and let me know. Many thanks for your time!--Rayna Vasileva (talk) 22:04, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I tend to refrain from reviewing drafts more than once. Feel free to resubmit the draft so that someone else can perform another review. Chenzw  Talk   00:22, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Chenzw! Thank you for you answer. I'd like to know what more do you want me to change in the article. I can't understand from your answer. What more references do you want me to add. The information in the article is very shortened now and I can't add more references because you don't like them and you don't think they're reliable sources. So tell me what sources do you consider for reliable? --Rayna Vasileva (talk) 09:27, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not saying that your sources are not reliable (perhaps, they may not be reliable after all, but that's not the point here); I am saying that the current sources which you cited are not independent. As I mentioned in the comments, the independent sources are not sources directly connected to the subject, not press releases, and not interviews. Also, I am not saying that you should remove non-independent sources totally - they are still fine, but notability of the band must be supported by independent sources. If you are unable to locate any independent sources, then I am afraid an article on that band cannot be included in Wikipedia at this point of time. Chenzw  Talk   11:47, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

16:53:07, 10 March 2018 review of submission by Emilyzhanghuanyan
further to your comment of " It is not immediately clear if the cited sources are all referring to the same concept of the "Facebook Divide". For that matter, the research paper in the first source was written in January 2017, one month before ICMAPRANE. Chenzw Talk  14:45, 10 March 2018 (UTC)"

I have go to the conference website at http://www.jaipuria.ac.in/icmaprane2018/past-conference/, and the title of the first source “From Digital Divide to Facebook divide, reconstruct our target market segments with Facebook native and Facebook immigrant” was clearly mentioned as one of the paper presented in the conference.

Is this the only problem on the issue of citation? Or I needed to look for additional sources.

Thanks

Emilyzhanghuanyan (talk) 16:53, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It still doesn't address my concern as to whether the term "Facebook divide" is considered by academia to be the same as the concept proposed by Yung. Additional sources are useless if they have a different understanding of the "Facebook divide" concept. If you look for additional sources, you will have to check whether these sources in turn cited Yung. Please also see WP:NEO for more information. Chenzw    Talk   02:01, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Request on 12:56:00, 12 March 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Henri Gandon
Hello Chenzw ! Thanks for analysing so precisely my contribution. I added some external links to prove the notability of subject Chazam. Hope this would be sufficient to prove his humble, but actual notability. Bye, Henri G.

Henri Gandon (talk) 12:56, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

13:52:50, 12 March 2018 review of submission by Nitrous Overcast
Hi Chenzw, I thought I had included references galore about the company. If you search the web the company comes up a lot, but perhaps I did not choose the right articles? Could you tell me what I may be missing in order to address this?

Nitrous Overcast (talk) 13:52, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Reliable, independent sources should be used to support notability - that means, no mere mentions, no sources directly connected to the organization, no press releases, and no interviews. You may find WP:ORGDEPTH and WP:ORGIND useful. Information about partnerships and certifications are good to have in an article, but they cannot be a substitute for independent sources in supporting the notability of the organisation. Chenzw  Talk   14:20, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Request on 15:31:09, 13 March 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by Tess Huang
Hello Chenzw, I'm the writer of the page "Draft:SIGONO". I read the message that you left on the page, saying that 'Cited sources do not sufficiently show the notability of the studio itself', and have cited more references on the page.

Please take a look at the article, and could you kindly tell me the sentences that need more cited sources if the submission is rejected again?

Thank you very much.

Tess Huang (talk) 15:31, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Some of your newly added sources are not reliable, not independent, or both. Also, please be advised that citing more sources does not necessarily lead to a "better" article. Chenzw    Talk   08:46, 14 March 2018 (UTC)