User talk:Cherfc/Archive 1

Pt article
Wow, that article looks amazing! I'll work on the English version of it, I'll just have to finish with these pesky final papers, before the final exams. We could both work on it, if you'd like :) Alecsdaniel (talk) 02:34, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Block

 * Autoblocks are not executed for "no reason". What is the message you are receiving when you attempt to edit.  Tide  rolls  23:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

You can still read pages, but you cannot edit, move, or create them. Editing from 187.40.16.57 has been blocked (disabled) by ProcseeBot for the following reason(s):
 * "You are currently unable to edit pages on Wikipedia.

The IP address that you are currently using has been blocked because it is believed to be an open proxy. To prevent abuse, these proxies may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. If you believe you are not running an open proxy, the most likely cause is that another customer from your ISP who was previously assigned this IP address was running an open proxy. If this is the case, please request to be unblocked using the template, or request administrator attention using  and indicate you are caught by an open proxy block. More rarely, your network equipment or that of your service provider may be misconfigured or compromised by malicious software (such as a virus). In some cases, this can be remedied by logging into the secure server. For more information, see the Wikiproject on Open Proxies and Wikipedia:Open proxies. (Sandbox test edit) This block has been set to expire: 09:21, 26 June 2012. Even if blocked, you will usually still be able to edit your user talk page and contact other editors and administrators by e-mail. Note: Please use the [show] links across from each header to show more information." Lordelliott (talk) 23:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

OK, but since it does NOT relate to my actions, I don't think MY account should be blocked. Lordelliott (talk) 15:30, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * It is possible to give you IP block exemption, if you have a good reason to be editing via a public proxy, but unless you can give a good reason to do so it is unlikely to happen. Alternatively, if you are not aware that you are editing via a proxy, then it is possible that your computer has been compromised and is being used as a zombie server. If that is the case then you need to get your computer checked for viruses and trojans. This IP address has been in use as a spam email server, in addition to other activity. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't even know what is a proxy. I think I'm a good user, my edits are productive, and I want to keep reverting vandalisms like this. I tried yesterday and couldn't do anything because my account was autoblocked, so this edit stayed for more than one day. That's the reason. I will check my computer, but I don't believe it's infected. Lordelliott (talk) 23:08, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The IP address you quoted above is still blocked, including blocking logged in users on that IP address. Since you are now able to edit, you must now be on a different IP address. It looks to me as though it must be a dynamic IP which had once been used by a spambot, but which later became assigned to you, and you unfortunately got caught in collateral damage. If that is so, then I can sympathise with you over the frustration it must have caused you, but at least you seem to have escaped from it now. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:21, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Info
I've messaged an admin with open proxy experience to check into this. Someone may see your request before my contact responds, but you will get a response directly.  Tide  rolls  23:30, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Right, thanks. Lordelliott (talk) 23:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Non-free content policy and guideline
Please do not place or replace any non-free media (either images or audio) to any pages except for actual articles, as you have done at User:Lordelliott/Sandbox. Such use is a clear violation of point number 9 of our policy concerning the use of non-free images. Continuing to do so can be viewed as disruptive behaviour and you may be blocked from editing. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:16, 29 October 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, sorry. Lordelliott (talk) 04:52, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Cher's record sales with Sonny
Hi, I see there are two sources supporting the 40 million in sales with Sonny.
 * Could you please point out for me where in that article of Vanity Fair the 40 million lies? I fail to locate the 40 million in sales.
 * Also, what makes the second source, A Daily Dose of the American Dream reliable especially when our policy restricts such self published materials?--Harout72 (talk) 17:47, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The word "Lies" in my sentence above was meant to refer to Stand or Sit, not Lies as an not telling the truth. Also, anyone can publish a book of their writings, therefore, Alan C. Elliot's A Daily Dose of the American Dream should not be used as source. Anyways, I see you've replaced both sources with a reliable source.--Harout72 (talk) 22:05, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

TEOM
I can see you've been taking a look at Mimi. Though you've found small over-looked errors, I can assure you that the references are near impeccable and something you should use to model your articles.-- CallMe Nathan  &bull;  Talk2Me   06:51, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Cher
Olá, Lordelliott.~Tudo bem? Estou afastado de todas as Wikipédias já há alguns meses, e só retorno quando surge algo de meu interesse... Não é o caso da Cher, mas já que a minha contribuição seria somente em relação à redação em inglês, me coloco à disposição de ajudar no que for possível, mas com uma exigência: que você vá me citando os pontos em que precisa de alguma revisão, ou seja, não pretendo ir lendo todo o artigo ou todas as edições a procura de erros ou melhorias. Noutras palavras, vá me trazendo ou me indicando as partes do artigo que precisariam de uma revisão. Vou auxiliar na medida do possível, ok? Abraços, N and O   ta lk !|undefined   16:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Warning
Your editing in article of Kylie Minogue is controversial (delete of text and sources), you must first discuss it. If by consensus, content and source must be removed, will be removed. One source describes the term "Pop Goddess", this is a different situation, in this case is can not be removed the text and the sources. Also, for you, this source can be a non reliable, for other users this source can be a reliable - therefore it must be earlier discussion and consensus, later - changes. I'm glad, you started a discussion but create a topic of discussion does not authorize the removal of content and sources without discussion and consensus. Please wait for the opinions of other users. If you do not stop your edit war, I will notify the administrator. Remember, first: discussion and consensus, later appropriate editing. If by consensus, content and source must be removed, this text and sources will be removed. Subtropical-man (talk) 18:49, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * PS: More explanations and the discussion is here: Talk:Kylie_Minogue. If you have any suggestions to as first: discussion. Subtropical-man (talk) 18:56, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

re Cher
Hi,

I wouldn't mind doing some copy editing (which you're free to revert) since you said in your FAC that you weren't completely comfortable in English. I could reword some of the quotes so that there weren't so many.

Also, what does "having brought the sense of female autonomy and self-actualization into the entertainment industry" mean? Could you give me a reference so I could figure that out? Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 21:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Much as I like Cher, I will decline. I do very little reviewing these days. Best of luck with the article. Finetooth (talk) 21:38, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Cher
I'm very impressed with all the effort you've put in to the Cher article and the high quality of the result. Keep up the good work! Kendall-K1 (talk) 13:41, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Your edit here is not supported by the reference provided. Please provide a supporting ref to a WP:RS or it will be removed. Sorry, my mistake, the claim is ref'd. RashersTierney (talk) 00:37, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Cher PR request
Would you like me to begin a new PR, or would you prefer I just add some comments at the bottom of User:Noleander's PR? GabeMc (talk 21:48, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I've started a PR here, and will begin adding comments later tonight. Assuming it's complete, you should either close the existing PR or ask User:Noleander to close it. I look forward to working with you, cheers! GabeMc (talk 23:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll be making some minor adjustments to the article here and there throughout the PR, so as to reduce the clutter at the PR page and to assist you a bit with this massive article. If any of the changes I've made or will make do not sit right with you, then by all means, please feel free to revert and discuss per WP:BRD. I may also introduce an error or two, as I am not as familiar with this material as I usually am when I get into a review of this depth. Hope you don't mind the edits, because I sure don't mind helping out a bit. Please let me know about any issues of concern caused by my copyediting. Cheers! GabeMc  (talk 00:12, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Right! Feel free to make any adjustments. Lordelliott (talk) 00:23, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll have a new round of comments for you later tonight, but don't forget about alt text. GabeMc  (talk 02:54, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Allright. Lordelliott (talk) 03:22, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice edits tonight, but as I said, don't neglect stuff like alt text. If you want a decent example, take a look at some of the alt text at Paul McCartney or Pink Floyd, if you are unsure how to word it. GabeMc  (talk 05:03, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * FYI, I'll be too busy tomorrow to add anything to the PR, but don't worry, I'll be back asap, nice work! GabeMc  (talk 07:48, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Sourcing. Nice work! This will reduce the overall size of the article, the complexity of the sourcing method and it will decrease the load-time. Others may disagree, but I've seen it enough with large articles like this one and it greatly improves load-time and editability, if that's a word. Anyway, great work on the article! GabeMc  (talk 04:06, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll be too busy tonight to add any more comments, but I'll be back soon. You are doing great things with an important article. You should be quite proud of the work you've done there! GabeMc  (talk 21:28, 14 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm a little busy right now with real life and some previously started Wiki-projects that I cannot neglect at this moment. But don't worry, I'll get back to the PR asap! In the meantime, work on the image alt text and cite bundling. GabeMc  (talk 01:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I've asked User:Rothorpe to take a look at the article for any grammar errors we might miss. You've already probably noticed some of his edits. He is a master grammarian with some experience teaching ESL students, so his keen eye will go a long way toward helping us bring the prose up to FAC standards. I should be able to continue the PR later tonight. Hope all is well with you. Cheers! GabeMc  (talk 22:10, 20 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry to leave you hanging. I'll be pretty busy this week in RL, but I will try to get back to the PR when some free-time opens up in a day or so, please remain patient. Re: cite bundling. You can name a source whatever you want. If there is no author provided, just name it to the publisher, such as: Hope that helps, I should have more time tomorrow to make some comments. Make sure all the images have alt text okay?  GabeMc  (talk 21:07, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Can you please point me to the specific RIAA cite to which you referred to at my talk? I can't seem to easily find it in the citations. GabeMc  (talk 23:50, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at my last two edits to Cher, it shows how to cite to sources without authors or dates. If this does not clear-up the confusion please let me know. GabeMc  (talk 01:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I've responded to the questions at the peer review. Let me know if I missed anything, or if anything needs clarification. Cheers! GabeMc  (talk 03:15, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll resume the PR tomorrow. Happy New Year! GabeMc  (talk&#124;contribs)  11:34, 2 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I havn't forgotten about you or the PR. I'm just a bit busy in RL this week, but I promise I'll get back to the PR soon. Hope all is well, cheers! GabeMc  (talk&#124;contribs)  21:55, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Which 1970s questions did I miss? GabeMc  (talk&#124;contribs)  23:55, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll add some more comments tomorrow, but the images in the article still need alt text, so I am a little hesitant to move forward when there are still pending issues from a couple weeks ago. So please do add alt text for every image in the article (an FAC requirement). Cheers! GabeMc  (talk&#124;contribs)  03:25, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Cher albums discography
If you look at the release date of Cher in RIAA's database, it states November 1987. Whereas Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves was released in September 1971. So the Platinum certification is for ''Cher (1987 album).--Harout72 (talk) 23:34, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to provide specific sources for your certification entry for Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves, the RIAA site does not contain any certifications.--Harout72 (talk) 17:32, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Editions of Harout72 should be taken with a lack of confidence. This user have a very controversial point of view on music articles, if you think, his editions are wrong - back his edits. Subtropical-man (talk) 00:21, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Subtropical-man, you are very close to violating Harassment.--Harout72 (talk) 17:32, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Peer review/Cher/archive1
Hi Elliot. I've begun my peer review of Cher, although I posted it in the initila review page, not knowing an "archive2" was also active. Anyway, if you think it's better in the new review page, it can be moved. It's nice to keep things in one place, after all. Otherwise, I hope you find my suggestions helpful. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  16:31, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Alright, it's staying at archive1, no worries. There's no rush: it's your nomination, so work at your pace. Cheers! — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  19:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

The PR page is getting really long. Do you mind if we move our review to Wikipedia talk:Peer review/Cher/archive1? It's also the oldest open PR currently. Since it's been open for so long and is unlikely to get any other reviewers, I think it's safe to let the bot archive the currrent page once we've moved all our comments to their own page. Our review itself is quite long and deserves one. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  21:24, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

BTW: Before my review, the page was 31 KB; now it's at 122 KB (almost 4× difference). And we're not even finished! Yeah, this is getting huge. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  21:31, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Done so, thanks. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  21:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lordelliot,

I've offered some advice on the music and voice section. But the reason I am writing to you is that I have been considering a wiki-break for quite some time. I need of get Wikipedia off my mind and focus on school and "real life" problems. One issue is that I'm not sure how much time I will need, but I'm estimating two weeks to a month. Maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less. So this will probably concern you: when do you plan to renominate this article? I also know that GabeMc will finish his review once I have, so that postpones things even more. I hate to keep you waiting for so long, but I would very much benefit from this little vacation. If you can lend me the time, I will try my best to help improve the article once I'm back and GabeMc can clean up after me; I don't spot everything after all. How do you feel about this? I understand this really slows things down for you and I am truly sorry, but this wiki-break will help me feel better and refresh me to continue writing and reviewing articles. If this is truly a bother, I hope we can reach a compromise and we'll both be happy in the end. I needed to inform you about this, because in good conscience I can't leave a fellow editor hanging confused about where I am.

All the best. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  20:40, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding. That's very reassuring! Cheers. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  21:47, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Cher Black Rose
Hi, first of all sorry for my bad english, but I'm italian. I'm Kekkomereq4, the old editor of all the Cher's page (Hell on Wheels (song) and Could've Been You). Now I'm busy with the italian version of wikipedia, but if you're are interested I've the complete source for the Black Rose page: Here and Here. --87.16.90.210 (talk) 07:46, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but I'm not interested at all. I'm already having a hard time with promoting the Cher article as a FA. I think you should work on her articles here, as you did with Could've Been You. It would be nice to see other Cher articles promoted as GA or FA. Best wishes, Lordelliott (talk) 04:18, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Unexplained reverts on Cher
What were your reasons for reverting my edits on the Cher article? You didn't give any in your edit summary, in fact, you didn't leave an edit summary! --108.45.72.196 (talk) 04:12, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living persons. Thank you.--John (talk) 21:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

HEY
I opened a discussion regarding her birth name on her talk page. Why haven't you contributed your two cents? Quis separabit? 19:59, 9 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I also thought Cherilyn Sarkisian was her birth name but her birth name was registered at the California Birth Index as Cheryl Lapiere (or LaPiere). Maybe her stepfather with the same surname was actually her biological father. Quis separabit?  20:17, 9 October 2013 (UTC)


 * No problems. If something I wrote needs to be reverted or reworded, it's fine, as long as it is in good faith. Yours, Quis separabit?  22:46, 9 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the compliment. Some stuff I see as cruft and name dropping but others don't agree. I trust your judgment, as you obviously know a great deal more about her than I do. Yours, Quis separabit?  15:40, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Your reversion of my edit of the "Cher" article
Greetings and felicitations. I see that you reverted my edit of the Cher article, and I am wondering why. IMHO the template offers a more elegant solution than  +, as the latter leaves excess white space at the bottom of the section.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:20, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Cher: Lyrical analysis of "The Way of Love"
Hi Lordelliott: May I ask why you allow Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz to repeatedly revert my edit several times in a couple hours, when all my contribution did was expand and clarify an assertion that already existed and is a common misconception, and which was not cited in the first place (despite Hullaballoo's false claim that I was "cite breaking")? Is this bully behavior of editors that are territorial about certain page entries? Do I need to seek administrative arbitration on the matter? Your help would be much appreciated, thank you.

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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Talk:Madonna (entertainer)
Please join this discussion if you are interested. –Chase (talk / contribs) 00:45, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Cher's Navel - and other international crisis' */ Urhura's navel, trumps Cher's navel...
Lordelliott - You threatened to have an administrator take action against me here. I suggest that you file that complaint. You are not carrying out any discussion on the talk page about your defense. Your sources are single, pushing POV - and are wrong. I've requested a RfC on the Cher:Talk Page. Please make your comments on that page. Dinky town  talk  18:51, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, Dinkytown. I would like to remember you that I have real life problems and can't always reply to your comments instantly. You were removing well-established content from the article way before you started this discussion on the talk page. Now you're trying to justify the war edit you've created because I could not reply to your comments at the same moment you hit the "Save page" button. Let's not. Cheers, Lordelliott (talk) 19:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)