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Happy editing! United States Man (talk) 02:32, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help!

NOAA has two tornadoes listed. One for Fort O and the other in East Ridge/East Brainerd/Bradley County.

Welcome again
Hey, I've seen you editing a lot lately and just wanted to stop by and say welcome (again). It's been pretty entertaining watching you learn how to do things around here haha. You're doing great work, keep it up. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 23:04, 20 April 2020 (UTC)  Thank you very much! I've always wanted to help with this, but just got around to doing so! I would love to join the Severe Weather Project and the Tropical Weather Project, but I don't want to be pushy just yet! LOL! Anyway, thanks for help!

Estill-Nixville EF4
Not enough info is available for that one yet. Leave it as is. TornadoInformation12 (talk) 00:50, 25 April 2020 (UTC)TornadoInformation12

Okay. That was actually the problem I was having. I will leave it in my sandbox for now than. Thanks! ChessEric (talk) 00:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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Fashion, Georgia
This would seem to indicate that Fashion doesn't even exist as a place anymore. The only mention is a couple road names in a subdivision. I wouldn't take your cherry picked website as a reliable source. It doesn't even turn up on Google or MapQuest. Those headers are supposed to be for significant communities, and I can't even find mention of it from NWS Atlanta. As such, the header should be changed so only significant communities involved are reflected or changed to "Murray County, Georgia." United States Man (talk) 22:24, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I at least found it a couple places. I still don't think it should be included however, because, like I say, the headers should be for the more significant communities, not every place. United States Man (talk) 22:30, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I understand that, but even the Wikipedia page for Murray County, Georgia has it in there, even though it doesn't have an article. Its just that its unincorporated. Just because its not very well known, doesn't mean it shouldn't be included. I found the town name in the damage viewer (you have to zoom in to where it is crossing Norton Bridge Road), the Wikipedia page, and various places online so I can't say that I agree with you here. Also, the tornado only tracked 8.8 miles, so listing it as "Murray County, Georgia" wouldn't make sense to me. Now the tornado was a significant distance from both Chatsworth or Cisco, so disposing of those town names make sense, but if directly moved through Fashion and Sumac so I think they should stay. Also, I've been trying to reply to you for the last 5 minutes, but kept getting an editing conflict! LET ME SPEAK! LOL! XDChessEric (talk) 22:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC) I've opened up a discussion on the talk page so we can all discuss it there.ChessEric (talk) 22:36, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I still don't support having four locations in a section header for a tornado track of less than 10 miles. I have done more research and found it in several places too; wonder why it's not on Google or MapQuest? But oh well, I'll yield if you insist. :P United States Man (talk) 22:39, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh no! You make a valid point! I've opened up a discussion on the talk page so we can all discuss it there. I'm still new, so there are things that I won't try to even act like I understand. So lets just talk about it there.ChessEric (talk) 22:45, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

May 12 tornado vent
While I don't disagree the that today's tornado event likely isn't notable enough for a section, you seem to be at the limit of the three-revert rule and further reverts would likely constitute edit warring. Placing a hidden not may be helpful. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:26, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh shoot! Thanks for telling me! I had actually misunderstood that rule, so thanks for telling me! I was reverting because I'm not home right now and I'm using my flip phone to do edits, which is a pain. ChessEric (talk) 21:40, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * By the way, what is the criteria to joining the Severe Weather Project? Also, are we going to change the format for the tornado emergencies list?ChessEric (talk) 21:40, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There are no real criteria afaik. If you are interested in contributing you can just add yourself to the list. I'm not sure what's going on with the tornado emergencies list since I've been working on off-wikipedia projects, but it looks like the discussion just kind of petered out. That's happened a few times on other pages like the List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Also, I have now had to add a note to the Tornadoes of 2020 page because people are not listening to me when I say don't add May 12.ChessEric (talk) 01:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like a few different people added it so they may not have seen your edit summaries. People will sometimes disagree on what is notable enough for inclusion. One rule of thumb for minimum criteria is that an event must produce at least three confirmed tornadoes, at least one EF2+ tornado, or at least one fatality. TornadoLGS (talk) 02:02, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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Good afternoon ! I saw you might be interested in joining the tropical cyclone WikiProject. Whether you work on tornadoes, or blizzards, or tropical cyclones, I think it's important to document weather and its effects, in this era of disinformation and global warming. I just wanted to reach out from someone in the tropical cyclone project, and that I'd be happy to assist your editing if you're interested. I hope you're healthy and well these days. Cheers, ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:48, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Glad to know I have your support! ChessEric (talk) 23:44, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Tornadoes by year template
Hi. I saw you're making "Tornadoes by Year" articles for the 1950's. Here's a link to the Tornadoes by Year template to add to the 1950's and 1960's year articles. Template:Tornadoes by year Hope this helps. Good Job.--Halls4521 (talk) 23:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks man! Also, thank you for adding the other years. I couldn't do it earlier. ChessEric (talk) 23:44, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with updating May 2020 tornadoes
Hey I know you're fixing older articles right now, but if you have the time, would you be able to help me keep this year's info up to date? There's a handful of surveyed EF0 and EF1 tornadoes (not too exciting I know) from the May 23-24 period that aren't listed here yet. I'll add those soon, but there's also quite a lot of SPC tornado reports from the May 21-26 time frame that I cannot find survey info for. Maybe I'm missing something? If you're able to dig some of this info up, it would be greatly appreciated. I just don't want us to get too behind on current events. Thanks! TornadoInformation12 (talk) 00:49, 28 May 2020 (UTC)TornadoInformation12
 * Of course! One guy was doing a good job at it too so I was just cleaning up his as well. ChessEric (talk) 01:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

May 2020
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Re: Hello + reorganization.
Certainly I am able to assist you. I would politely advise, however, that you learn more about proper formatting. There are a number of pages on Wikipedia that can help in this regard. Nevertheless, I appreciate your efforts to update, improve, and improvise tornado-related material on Wikipedia. This area could use more expertise on par with that of WPTC. CapeVerdeWave (talk) 06:06, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Of course! I'm still new here, so I'm willing to learn new things all the time! Is there any formatting in particular with formatting that I should learn? ChessEric (talk) 12:39, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You should mainly focus on formatting tables, citations, and sections within articles. Check the Wikipedia guidelines; there are many good sources on template (convert is particularly useful for units), style, etc. Also, take a look at some well-composed examples. Good luck and keep up the good work. CapeVerdeWave (talk) 18:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Another helpful tip: use the official Storm Events Database instead of The Tornado Project when citing tornado data. CapeVerdeWave (talk) 18:39, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You may also wish to see how I edited one of your articles. CapeVerdeWave (talk) 10:18, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

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New articles
As part of the Tornadoes of 1950s and 1960s expansion, I have made a number of outbreak pages that I think are notable. However, I'm gonna need help with them. Can I ask for your assitence? The pages are on my personal page.ChessEric (talk) 00:03, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Fargo tornado
I've opened discussion at Talk:Fargo tornado regarding the modifications. If you have a moment, please reply with your reasoning behind reverting.--immewnity 23:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Here's some references from the Tornado Prject: http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado/1957/6/19/table, http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado/1957/6/20/table , http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado/1957/6/21/table , http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado/1957/6/22/table , http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado/1957/6/23/table --Halls4521 (talk) 02:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * https://www.weather.gov/fgf/fargo57tornado --Halls4521 (talk) 02:22, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, going by the references in the article, that is the correct death count, but not the official count. It appears two people wasn't a part of the official death count due to dying of their injuries later. I think that info should stay in the article even if we go by the official count.--Halls4521 (talk) 02:27, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * http://nwafiles.nwas.org/digest/papers/2011/Vol35No1/Pg27-Schultz-etal.pdf --Halls4521 (talk) 02:28, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks man! Tornado History Projects was what I was using anyway, but the other articles definitely help!


 * Sorry about earlier. Please see my response on the talk page. ChessEric (talk) 02:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Tornado History Project links
I've been working on {CW|62}} and the references you make to them keep showing up. First, you need the protocol ( http:// or https:// ) or the link will not work. Secondly, you really should be using one of the citation templates and probably creating an archive of the page. I'd think cite web should work, and the Web Archive is what I use for archives. This helps prevent WP:ROT. Jerod Lycett (talk) 05:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


 * My apologies. I'm doing major article expansions right now and the device I'm using is a flip phone, so trying to type out full references is time-consuming and a true pain. In addition, it doesn't add the http:// part to any of the websites for some reason and I keep forgetting to add it myself. I do plan to add full references later, but I will be mindful of what you said. Again, I'm sorry. ChessEric (talk) 16:26, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

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Storm Events Database site

 * A link to the Storm Events Database from the NWS/SPC/NOAA/NCEI website - [Storm Events Database].--Halls4521 (talk) 22:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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Re: 1964 Hurricane Isbell tornado outbreak
Certainly, feel free to extract any useful information from my draft and use it. Cheers, CapeVerdeWave (talk) 16:25, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I also have some drafts on tornado outbreaks that are incomplete. For example, see this one and this one. Feel free to expand and finish these drafts as necessary. CapeVerdeWave (talk) 07:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Once I get these other pages done, I certainly will.ChessEric (talk) 13:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * When citing sources, be sure to put in the name of the reference. Also, when citing NCDC data, use.
 * CapeVerdeWave (talk) 14:00, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that. I never seem to know how to write out the NCDC reference. LOL! I did an edit in one of your drafts by the way, but I hope you don't mind it.ChessEric (talk) 21:27, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * In addition to data from Grazulis' book(s), I am currently attempting to add more information to your articles, but unfortunately I receive a 502 Proxy Error (Bad Gateway) message when I attempt to access the Storm Data and Climatological Data National Summary publications (PDFs) via NCDC/NCEI. I see, however, that you were able to add specific information about damage for several of the tornadoes in this draft. Were you able to access the PDF files I mentioned? CapeVerdeWave (talk) 10:00, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh. Um...I didn't see any PDF mentions actually. Those damage reports were from NWS Birmingham's tornado archive page. Sorry. LOL! What PDFs are we talking about again?ChessEric (talk) 11:17, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the damage reports for the F5 tornadoes was already on here and sourced so I just added that in.ChessEric (talk) 11:25, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the damage reports for the F5 tornadoes was already on here and sourced so I just added that in.ChessEric (talk) 11:25, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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We need to talk
Stop reverting and let's talk now. United States Man (talk) 22:27, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Its been a long day and I'm a little irritable right now. LOL! Please forgive me.ChessEric (talk) 22:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Why would you put in a highway number that is not signed and is only numbered for TDOT purposes. Literally no common reader of this article, including most that live there, are aware of SR 24, so why include it? Also, myself and TornadoInformaton12 had an agreement on the section header name. Why did you change it? There is not a set procedure to follow for this, just the most common area(s) impacted. The tornado never entered the Baxter city limits and the most intense damage was technically neither in Cookeville nor Baxter. Also, when you do NCDC updates and get those little bump in the road communities without an article or any notability, it is better to use a nearby larger town for location. United States Man (talk) 22:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Again, I'm sorry. When I research things, I like to be factual to a "T". That goes for town names, route numbers, max width of tornadoes, etc. So when I saw that the tornado went through Ensor, Tennessee and that U.S. Route 70N was co-signed with Tennessee State Route 24, I just added it in. Plus, for me, a road name is not as important as the route number, which is why I changed Lancaster Highway to Tennessee State Route 141. My autism does make these traits of mine REALLY annoying to some people, so I completely understand your frustration. Also, and this may sound weird but its what I do, I put in little towns because the effects there are just as important as the bigger ones. Just because its not on every map doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. I actually saw an article on this from the 2011 Super Outbreak where the 2011 Hackleburg–Phil Campbell tornado was overshadowed by the 2011 Tuscaloosa–Birmingham tornado despite being longer-tracked, stronger, and deadlier than that tornado, leaving some to feel like they were not as important. That's just my opinion, but I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
 * I hope this sheds some light about how I like to do things on here. Again, I'm sorry for upsetting you as this has also been somewhat of boring and irritable day for me as well.ChessEric (talk) 22:56, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Well I am from this area, so if you aren't you'll never have me beat on geography :P. Ensor is not really thought of as an actual place outside of online maps; it's just 70N between Gentry and Baxter. I agree somewhat with the other highways, but WP:COMMONNAME could apply in this case because these roads are rarely referred to by highway number. Some people don't even know the numbers to be honest. So, I felt like it is better to have the actual road name, which is how the highways are known. Also, if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to change the header back to our previous agreement. United States Man (talk) 23:20, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh my goodness. We should've just let you do everything regarding that part of the article then. Also, the name was change was by admin, so I hate to say it, but I can't give an opinion on that.ChessEric (talk) 23:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, he just randomly reverted what you had initially changed, so I don't think that would be an issue. United States Man (talk) 23:46, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

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List of North American tornadoes and tornado outbreaks
Hi - You seem to be putting in alot of energy into List of North American tornadoes and tornado outbreaks. Is your vision that EVERY tornado be listed on this page? Seems like this could make this page very long and I'm not sure that's the original intent of the page - to have an encyclopedic list. Not saying you are doing anything wrong, but this page is just getting really long since I started watching it about 10 yrs ago. Thoughts? -- Ckruschke (talk) 18:14, 21 July 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke


 * Thanks for notifying me on your concern.


 * Actually, the additional outbreaks that I'm putting on the page are (a) outbreaks that are in the process of being made and/or (b) ones that I or others plan to make in the future. There are just so many notable outbreaks that need articles that just don't have any. Don't worry though: every tornado will not be on this list because not all tornadoes are particularly notable. For example, an outbreak in 1952 had 10 tornadoes, one of them being an F4. However, all the other tornadoes were weak and none of them caused casualties, so it was not included. Additionally, I don't think all the outbreaks listed will stay as some of the additions are more preliminary and require more research to determine notability.


 * I will admit that I agree the list is getting long however. I think that that could be rectified by maybe splitting the centuries up into different articles though rather then getting rid the outbreaks that don't have pages. Wikipedia is forever expanding, so I just believe that more work needs to be improve this part of it.


 * Anyway, I hope that clears some things up. Again, thanks for notifying me of you concern! ChessEric (talk) 19:02, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, but there are alot of tornadoes, particularly at the top of the page but also spread throughout, that have been added that have less than 5 deaths. This is my concern - where is the delineation point? Ckruschke (talk) 13:52, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke


 * Again, the outbreaks added are getting articles. For example, I just added a new one overnight. There are plenty of outbreaks on the list that have less the five fatalities on the list to begin with. I can't quite give you a delineation point, but I will tell you any outbreak or day that has an F5 tornado should get an article. Other outbreaks that have 5+ deaths and/or 50+ injuries may also be, but are not always, included. The LA tornadoes were notable so I decided to make a section for that as well. I believe sections on this list should be ones that get or are getting articles. I'll talk to CycloneBiskit about it, but I hope I've cleared at some things up. ChessEric (talk) 15:32, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds like you have a plan, which is all I really wanted to hear. Kudos! Ckruschke (talk) 17:28, 23 July 2020 (UTC)Ckruschke

Thanks man! By the way, if you want to help with the making of the articles you can, either by adding on to the outbreak pages on my user page or creating one of your own. My plate is VERY full so I will take all the help I can get.ChessEric (talk) 04:14, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

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Struggling to access individual Event Reports—pages are loading very slowly
Are you also having problems accessing the individual Event Reports on the Storm Events Database (NCDC/NCEI)? CapeVerdeWave (talk) 14:48, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Glad to know I wasn't the only one. I kept getting proxy and other errors when I was trying to get the NCDC/NCEI reports yesterday. It was frustrating.ChessEric (talk) 16:52, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

List of Category 1 Atlantic hurricanes
Hey there, I've been adding a few storms to the article for C1 Atlantic canes. I think it could be a good collaboration. Would you be interested in participating in a collaboration with other users to help finish the article? No worries if not - happy editing! ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:15, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm really busy with tornadoes right now, but I'd be honored to, so I will help when I can!ChessEric (talk) 14:29, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Totally understood, there are tons of tornado articles that need work too! ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:50, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you
Hi ChessEric. I noticed that you are thanking me a lot for my edits. I just want to thank you back. Stay safe! ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 00:50, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 00:50, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Your welcome! I hope that we are we able to collaborate well together.ChessEric (talk) 00:59, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , Trust me. We will work well together. Just a quick question out of curiosity - do you play chess? ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 00:59, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I do, hence my name. It used to be my YouTube handle name before I changed it because I was doing chess-related stuff on it like I planned to. LOL!ChessEric (talk) 01:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * ChessEric, I'm planning to re-nominate Hurricane Isaias at WP:ITN because of its tornadoes, windesprea damage, and 13+ deaths. Do you have any objections/comments before I do so? Thanks. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 19:06, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Not at all. Thanks for letting me know.ChessEric (talk) 19:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Isaias tornado outbreak
Hey just letting you know you’re more than good to start a Hurricane Isaias outbreak article. This has been one of the most significant tropical outbreaks that I can remember. People are gonna try to push their agenda, but the event meets the criteria for an article. You have every right and reason to make one. I can’t make one right now because I’m at work, but I’ll definitely help you out once I’m free. Thanks! TornadoInformation12 (talk) 20:14, 6 August 2020 (UTC)TornadoInformation12

Your welcome and thank you for the help! I started it so just go here when your free.ChessEric (talk) 21:42, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

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Re: Grazulis data
Look at the following issue of Storm Data (October 1961). If data are missing for a given month, they appear in the succeeding issue. CapeVerdeWave (talk) 07:43, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Hate to say it, but I tried that already. It wasn't there.ChessEric (talk) 20:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Never mind. I found the data in the December issue. LOL!ChessEric (talk) 22:48, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

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Laura
Hey, I saw your comments on Laura's talk page and I know its tough to see 's comments calling you foolish for updating the article, but don't let it get to you as they clearly did not know where to get the latest data from. Besides which the downgrade was tucked away in a TC update at 17z, rather than the intermediate advisory at 18z or a special advisory. As a result, I would strongly suggest that you take a deep breath, step back, improve another article and come back to Laura, when you are calmer.Jason Rees (talk) 22:24, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that...I feel better now. It's just that with all the vandalism on the page, I just found the comment inconsiderate, especially because I said why I did that in the description of my edit.ChessEric (talk) 22:40, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Your emotions are quite understandable as storms like Laura that go viral are the toughest to work as we get an influx of people who want to edit the page, keep it updated and add what they think is the right content. At the same time, our emotions as hurricane editors go all over the place, as we are naturally sad at the deaths and damage, we also feel proud that we are making one of the best articles on the hurricane out there and get angry when people add the wrong content or accuse us of adding the wrong content. However, one of the best things we can do is to talk to the users and educate them as to where the data has come from. Talking of which, I noticed that you only take content on TC's from the American warning centres (ie: NHC, CPHC and JTWC), however, don't forget to take content from the other RSMC's (ie: JMA, IMD, MFR, BoM, BMKG, PNG NWS, FMS and NZMS) where appropiate. :)Jason Rees (talk) 23:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah! Thanks. I just couldn't remember them all. XDChessEric (talk) 23:11, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about remembering them all - there isnt a pop quiz and I seriously doubt can. It also gets harder when you get to my level, where you have fingers in various pies.Jason Rees (talk) 23:41, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , Yep, I know that feeling when working on Isaias's article, when people keep moving around the sections, saying that the original format (which I formatted, which worked well), was bad. Somewhere way down the edit history. Jason, I think we should give Laura's page indefinite semi-protection, since the current protection expires today, and the storm is still active. Laura is anyway gonna get retired, so like Dorian, Florence, Harvey, etc, should get indefinite semi-protection. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 00:17, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Laura may get an additional spell of protection later but No article should be permanently semi'd because that defeats the point of Wikipedia ie: That anyone can edit it unless of course there is a lot of vandalism to the page. Jason Rees (talk) 06:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Wow. Great job ChessEric on Draft:Meteorological history of Hurricane Laura. Excellent work! I used Twinkle to request speedy deletion of the redirect, so you can move the draft to the mainspace. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 19:03, 4 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh. That's why it wasn't moving. Thank you! LOL!ChessEric (talk) 19:06, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Congrats!
You’re member of the month of WPTC! See WP:WPTC/NEWS/42. Congrats! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 15:40, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Wow! I'm honored! Thank you so much and I hope to continue to improve for the future!ChessEric (talk) 16:14, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ChessEric. Have you heard about Twinkle? It’s a great tool for extended-confirmed users who want to combat vandalism and get more into the administrative side of Wikipedia. It’s easy to use, and it has many functions such as Rollback, warning users, reporting vandalism, requesting page protection, requesting deletion of a page, etc. I know you get pissed off because of vandals, I do too, and Twinkle makes life easier when dealing with them. It’s easy to download, just go to your preferences page, click on Gadgets, and enable Twinkle. If you don’t want to install Twinkle, that’s ok too, though using these functions will allow you to get more experience, and will bring you closer to becoming an admin or getting rights. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 17:12, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know! I'm still a little new to everything though, so I don't know about the whole Twinkle thing. Plus, with college starting back up, I don't know if I can keep up the frequent editing to the point where I will need it. Still, I will CERTAINLY look into that in the future!ChessEric (talk) 02:31, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Congrats, you definitely deserved MOTM. Weatherman27 (talk) 05:15, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! ChessEric (talk) 10:59, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, I hope you continue to do great on Wikipedia Weatherman27 (talk) 05:25, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

I was the one who suggested that made you the MOTM as a thank you for your work on Laura. I wouldnt worry to much about the tools for vandalism or becoming an admin and just enjoy working on Wikipedia.Jason Rees (talk) 19:11, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Great job on Meteorological history of Hurricane Laura!

~ Destroyeraa 🌀 19:04, 4 September 2020 (UTC) 

Tornado outbreak sequence of May 3–9, 1961 continued
I'm not overly familiar with this Tornado/meteorlogical event subject area to be honest, i just went down a rabbit-hole today and ended up patrolling through some pages on it. That being said i find it fascinating. Are you part of a Wikiproject here?

Below i've posted an example of how i'd make the prose more concise. I tried to keep significant points about the event but omitted what i felt were less important ones; i also dropped the word 'long-tracked' because it seemed like technical terminology to me. The most important thing is that you enjoy what you're writing, so if the style i'm presenting doesn't work for you, just ignore my suggestion! We've all got our own writing styles.

"This skipping, but long-tracked, large F3 tornado first touched just west of Downtown Madsonville and immediately reached its peak intensity as it moved east-northeast into downtown. A three-story brick building lost its top two floors and two two-story brick buildings had extensive damage. Businesses, homes, and a church were also extensively damaged and trees and power lines were downed, an airplane was destroyed at the Madisonville Municipal Airport in nearby Anton, and cars were damaged by flying debris. All three injuries from this tornado occurred near or in town and losses totaled $2.5 million alone." "From Madisonville the tornado weakened and turned eastward, causing lesser, but still considerable damage as it hit Northern Millport as well as the towns of Bremen Station and Bremen. From there, it hit the town of Moorman, unroofing the Moorman High School gym, and destroying a small home. The tornado then moved directly through Centertown and on to Beaver Dam, causing more damage. Damage was also observed in Mt. Pleasant, Arnold, Dogwalk, and Neafus before finally dissipating in Peth."

Becoming:

An F3 tornado touched down west of downtown Madsonville, reaching peak intensity as it moved into that area. The resulting damage was extensive, totaling a value of $2.5 million and leaving three people injured.

As the tornado weakened it headed eastward, causing lesser, but still considerable damage to Northern Millport, Bremen station and Bremen. Further damage later occurred in several other towns, before the tornado dissipated in Peth.

Kind regards, Zindor (talk) 23:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I think I understand what your saying. For the lay person/reader, some of the details in the section may be too technical, overly exaggerated, or just TMI. LOL! That makes sense considering the terminology that meteorology uses. Now this came from a single tornado section, which is generally made for the exact purpose of being more detailed, so I'm hesitant to shorten it TOO much, but I see what your saying.


 * How's this:


 * "This long-tracked, large F3 tornado touched down just west of Madisonville and immediately reached its peak intensity as it moved east-northeast into downtown. Multiple buildings and homes were extensively damaged, including a three-story brick building that lost its top two floors and two two-story brick buildings that had extensive damage. Trees and power lines were downed, an airplane was destroyed at the Madisonville Municipal Airport in nearby Anton, and cars were damaged by flying debris. All three injuries from this tornado occurred near or in town and losses totaled $2.5 million alone."
 * "From Madisonville, the tornado weakened and turned eastward, causing lesser, but still considerable damage as it hit Northern Millport as well as the towns of Bremen Station and Bremen. From there, it began to skip as it hit the town of Moorman, unroofing the Moorman High School gym and destroying a small home. Damage was also observed in Centertown, Beaver Dam, Mt. Pleasant, Arnold, Dogwalk, and Neafus before the tornado finally dissipating in Peth."


 * By the way, I'm part of the WP:SVR, which specializes in the maintenance of severe weather pages. Since joining Wikipedia in April, most of my work has been on expanding the main tornado pages back to 1950 as well as make new outbreak pages, although I've been doing a host of other things as well. I also recently joined the WP:WPTC recently and was named member of the month in their newsletter. Anyway, thank you for your feedback!ChessEric (talk) 23:43, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Thanks for the links. As i thought might be the case, your wiki-project has it's own notability criteria for articles SEVERE/N. That will help me greatly in reviewing pages. Thanks Zindor (talk) 23:55, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Your welcome. I actually literally just asked to update it because it is outdated, although it is more of a format thing then an information thing. Good luck to you in the future!ChessEric (talk) 00:20, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for August 2020 Midwest derecho
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Replacing redirects
A few points here. You should take heed of these for all future editing. You're a very productive editor, but there are also conventions and guidelines to follow. Please let me know if you have any questions.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:00, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) You are always free to simply edit the redirect to work on your article if you're confident about publishing it quickly. Simply click the link after "Redirected from" and then edit that page (there should be "redirect=no" appended to the URL).
 * 2) If not, you can use a draft. But always use WP:CSD to request for the removal of the redirect. Never link the draft namespace from a mainspace article. It doesn't save any work; once the permanent title is obtained for these articles, we still have to update the links.
 * 3) : WP:SHOUT does not look good, even in an edit summary.


 * You are a total mind reader because I was literally was just asking you that! LOL! Also, sorry about the shouting. Its been a long, tiring day.ChessEric (talk) 05:02, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Can you see if I did the Speedy Deletion template for the redirect of Subtropical Storm Alpha correctly?ChessEric (talk) 20:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Sally
Dude I wasn’t ready yet. I was still tryna organize things. You should have asked me before you made Sally a page. Thank you. Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk) 14:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Organize what exactly?ChessEric (talk) 15:41, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

The impact section I was still trying to get that fixed up. I was also trying to finish the introduction. What you did is like your friend telling you something then you spread it around without his permission. You should have asked me before you moved the page out of draft mode. Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk) 16:09, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

What are you talking about? You can edit the page whether its in draft or mainstream, so that doesn't make sense.ChessEric (talk) 17:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Ik that but you should have at least told me when you were gonna send it out of draft mode. So please give me a heads up next time you’re ready to move one of my pages out of draft. Thank you! Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk) 17:53, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Alright, but in the future, if you want to make an article yourself, put on your page (i.e. User:Robloxsupersuperhappyface/Hurricane 3). Putting it in a draft means that it can be moved by anyone because it isn't under a specific person. If it were under your name, I wouldn't have moved it. Another thing is that Sally is clearly going to be a dangerous storm, so trying to hog it just so you can put in minor impacts to Florida doesn't really make sense. Besides, like I said before, you could've edited it whether it was in the draft or mainstream, so it doesn't really matter.ChessEric (talk) 18:26, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh ok thanks for letting me know that you can do that. Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk) 18:57, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Your welcome.ChessEric (talk) 19:04, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

As a reminder (if I may step in), no one owns an article. We're all just trying to make the best possible encyclopedia. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:11, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. That's what I was trying to say, but I didn't know how to say it.ChessEric (talk) 20:28, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion
For speedy deletion templates, you need to download Twinkle or manually do it. Downloading Twinkle is the easiest way to add speedy deletion of start a Deletion discussion. I really recommend you download Twinkle, just go to WP:TWINKLE and follow the steps there. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 15:04, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Waterspout
From the 4th shapefile (2nd red shapefile) on the posted link. 

Click "Text Data"

At 626 PM EDT, a radar indicated waterspout was located just offshore 6 miles south of Sanibel, 13 miles south of St. James City, or 17 miles southwest of Cape Coral, moving north at 20 mph.

– The Grid  ( talk )  21:40, 15 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I SAW the warning because I was the one who put in the tornado warning info in the first place. The same warning also said:

SOURCE...Radar indicated rotation.

...which means IT WAS NOT CONFIRMED. Thank you!ChessEric (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the clarification in whatever tone you see as fit. (Though I don't understand the language of stating SW Lee County when it's the barrier islands. I know that's the actual terminology but you can only explain something SW of SWFL for so much before you hit the Gulf.) – The Grid  ( talk )  21:53, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh. Ok. Sorry about that! I was a little annoyed when I came back and saw some untrue statements on the current systems. I didn't know you just needed clarification. Please forgive me.ChessEric (talk) 22:01, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

No worries. – The Grid  ( talk )  00:05, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion
Hello ChessEric! I really appreciate your tireless updating of current storms and hurricanes. Great job! I see that you are sleepy and tired, probably from editing all the way to 1 or 2 AM. I suggest you take a break from editing and go take a short nap. You don't want to tire yourself out and be very groggy for the rest of the day! It's ok, other editors will cover you! Keep up your good work.~ Destroyeraa 🌀 14:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I missed getting the weather radar map from the exact time of landfall, which is disappointing, but I've been watching The Weather Channel, which is where I've been getting my info from. Indeed, I think I'm editing too much right now! LOL!ChessEric (talk) 14:35, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey. Random question. What's the "&-n-b-s-p-;" for? Been meaning to ask someone that.
 * ChessEric, the &-n-b-s-p-;, or "non-breaking space", is mainly used for numbers. Look, I am not a computer whiz, but all I know that it doesn't mess up the number space in some formats. It's just a backup, since sometimes 80 mph can come out as 80

mph, so the &-n-b-s-p-; is there to stop it from doing so.
 * Non-breaking space. It's for whenever you're viewing the article at any resolution or even through mobile, the number associated with the unit (like 75 mph; 13 million) does not get separated where the number is on one line and the unit is on the following line. This took a while for me to figure out and you'll begin to notice when editing articles. More info about it. – The Grid  ( talk )  01:22, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Also, I'm sorry for the Sally pic thing. You were right, UTC times can be annoying, especially when 4:00 UTC is midnight EDT and 11:00 CDT. However, Sally's eye was much better back then, and before landfall, you could see the eye filling up, and looking kinda track. LOL. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:35, 16 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info. Also, that's why I never think of weather events in local time anymore. LOL! It is true that the other pic looks better though.ChessEric (talk) 01:51, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ChessEric, you should thank, as his explanation was more accurate. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 13:00, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * This is what happens when I curiously stalk. – The Grid  ( talk )  14:30, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * And this is why I (mostly) appreciate talk page stalkers, though I don't want people stalking me in real life~ Destroyeraa 🌀 14:40, 17 September 2020 (UTC).

Oh. I didn't even realize it was him! My bad! Thanks !ChessEric (talk) 18:23, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Teddy
Hi ChessEric! I suggest you create a draft about Teddy before making an article out of a redirect. Since Teddy isn't threatening land (at least for now) nor is it a record-breaking Category 5, a draft would be the best way to create the article. Just search Draft:Hurricane Teddy and then create it. Just copy-and-past the current article into the draft. Plus, you get credit for the article!! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 21:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Done! Thanks for the info!ChessEric (talk) 21:27, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. That's how I did it, and that's how I'm still doing it. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 21:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No offense...that's sounds like your playing a little dirty! LOL!ChessEric (talk) 21:31, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * LOL! Yep, I am playing just a bit dirty. Here's my POV


 * Users


 * 1-50 edits - dunno what to do
 * 51-100 edits - hmmm...starting to like Wikipedia
 * 101-200 edits - maybe join a WikiProject?
 * 201-500 edits - gotta get extended-confirmed rights!
 * 501-1000 edits - YES! YES! MY FIRST ARTICLE!
 * 1001-1500 edits - Alright, stop calling me a newbie
 * 1501-2000 edits - starts to participate in discussions and votes
 * 2001-2500 edits - Oh! There's a cool tool called Twinkle/Huggle! Time to warn the vandals who annoy me!
 * 2501-3000 edits - starts to get interested in administrative areas
 * 3001-3500 edits - Starts playing dirty by creating so many articles out of drafts to get autopatrolled rights
 * 3501-4000 edits - gets interested in GA and FA, and promotes first article into GA! "YES! MY FIRST GA! WHERE'S MY MONEY??"

~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:01, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * LOL!...wait money?ChessEric (talk) 22:07, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ChessEric, no there is no money. However, some newer editors think that when they promote an article to such high standards, they get to work for Wikipedia. In reality, Wikipedia is a non-profit organization. Sorry, no money for you.~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:08, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh. Okay. Just'a making sure! LOL!ChessEric (talk) 22:10, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Go look at the history for the Teddy draft. I had to revert an IP who added improper humor to the article. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:17, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Autopatrolled doesnt matter tbh... I don't even have it. My first articles weren't the best and I am not ashamed to admit that. You learn stuff along the way as others help you to improve the articles. I will tell you that FA is a very high standard and quite time-consuming. Let me tell you that topics take a lot of time, but are well worth the effort.
 * I wasn't experienced when I started on this topic (it would be done already had I been). I am likely going to finish sometime during early to mid-2021. My goal is to get all of the articles to featured status. Another project member is doing the timeline. You guys could do something similar with 2020 AHS if you wanted to. You guys seem to enjoy editing articles for it. Noah Talk 22:19, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * OMG! I know it wasn't right, but that was absolutely hilarous! LOL! Gotcha! I need to go back to some of my earlier articles myself and update them as I can put more info in them I originally realized.ChessEric (talk) 22:23, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ChessEric, Usually I get mad at vandals for doing such things. But this time, this IP got me cracked up at the joke. Instead of the typical vandalism warnings I give to vandals, I gave him a caution about improper humor. Plus, I looked through the IP's edit history - most of the edits weren't vandalism or disruptive. But still, name a hurricane after Teddy Roosevelt? LOL! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:48, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ChessEric, Usually I get mad at vandals for doing such things. But this time, this IP got me cracked up at the joke. Instead of the typical vandalism warnings I give to vandals, I gave him a caution about improper humor. Plus, I looked through the IP's edit history - most of the edits weren't vandalism or disruptive. But still, name a hurricane after Teddy Roosevelt? LOL! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:48, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Just noticed something...After tornado season (unofficially ended), you went straight to helping out with hurricane season. Kinda gets boring in the Midwest and Tornado Alley after July. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 00:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * True that. Even crazier thing was I wasn't really planning to; it just sort of happened. Updating tornado info was a whole lot less of a stress inducer than tropical cyclones, specifically because of how many edits come out for a hurricane season. An update comes out on a hurricane, and you got 30 people vying to update the page! LOL! Anyway, I'm still working on the expanding the main 1962, 1963, 1964, and 1965 tornado seasons, but I've devoted a lot of time to hurricanes now as well. Looking back, it was the combination of me adding in a radar loop and tornado impacts from Hanna, the tornado outbreaks from both Hurricane Isaias and Laura (also with radar loops), and just the sheer volume of work I had been doing to expand the main tornado pages back to 1950, which I've been doing since May. Needed a break, and with the tropics going crazy, it was just perfect timing, especially because right now, I'm working on an outbreak sequence from 1962 that I analyzed as lasting for 18 days and had 198 tornadoes...and I'm doing it by myself! LOL!ChessEric (talk) 00:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I've seen from your edit history. I wish you the best of luck working on your sandbox. Also, you are right about 30+ people trying to add one (1!) update about a tropical cyclone. For example, when Sally's 1200Z update came out, people went crazy, along with Teddy's updates. Whenever a new TC forms, like 22L, there is a mess of 100+updates in less than 30 minutes.~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:16, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Are you and aware of the ongoing effort for improving articles for the 2018 year? I didn't know if you guys would be interested in helping with it. Noah Talk 21:28, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I known, and I apologize for not going there and improving the articles. However, I am busy with promoting Hurricane Dolores (2015) to GA and with the current storms. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 21:32, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I got tornado pages I'm doing and I just created a page for Tropical Storm Beta. I will help when I can though.ChessEric (talk) 21:37, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You have nothing to be sorry for. I was simply trying to see if you were interested. This whole project will take quite some time to complete. In fact, I won't even be finished with the EPAC portion until a few months into 2021 at the earliest (I want to get all of it to FA). I then have some articles I created/started to work on in the Atlantic (which will take a while). There is a discord for the 2018 part if you both would like to join and simply see what is going on. Noah Talk 21:58, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Apologies
Sorry about the reversion. Lots going on right now with people getting jumpy/and a tad of vandalism. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:46, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I apologize. You wouldn't have known I was making an edit there! LOL!ChessEric (talk) 18:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Alpha's pressure
Yo, can you link me the page that says that Alpha's minimum pressure was 996 mbar? Just curious because I wasn't able to find it. -MinMinnH (talk) 22:29, 19 September 2020 (UTC)


 * It is here. Says Alpha's minimum pressure at landfall was 996 mb.ChessEric (talk) 02:07, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Guess I pulled a dumb one. -MinMinnH (talk) 12:07, 20 September 2020 (UTC)


 * No its alright. This is the 1st time I've ever seen something like this from the NHC. LOL!ChessEric (talk) 13:18, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Beta
I moved Beta's page per the speedy deletion (I just received page mover rights today, right on time). Beta's about to make landfall. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 17:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Not gonna lie; I'm genially surprised it was you who moved it since you said it wasn't ready. LOL!ChessEric (talk) 20:09, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ChessEric, it wasn't ready yesterday because it didn't make landfall and there wasn't any report of damage. Now that Beta is gonna make landfall, I re-did the CSD. Then, shortly after that, I received a notice saying that I was granted page mover rights. Well that makes life easier, and I moved the page. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 20:16, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I know, I know. I'm just messing with you. LOL!ChessEric (talk) 02:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * LOL. I know. How did you nominate the redirect for deletion? I don't think you used Twinkle, so you must have copied the template. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 14:07, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Correct. Copied and pasted it.ChessEric (talk) 16:25, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Invite (fixed)
Hey! Is it too late to make a short editorial article here? I have the time since I'm tired of seeing my favorite team getting destroyed on Monday Night Football. LOL!ChessEric (talk) 01:50, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure! LOL!! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:52, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Got this done today.

Accuracy has always been one of my biggest sticking points when it comes to editing on Wikipedia. When I came here back in April, my first edit was a revert of misinformation on the 2020 Easter tornado outbreak article. Of course, I understand that as a newbie, I still have a lot to learn and I don't profess to know everything, even after I started several large projects that I will probably be working on for quite some time. My first tornado outbreak pages used only the [www.tornadohistoryproject.com Tornado History Projects] which, while generally good for tornado tracks, provides no damage info and if weren't for editors like and, my "breakthrough" articles would be so incomplete. However, I've been able to research more and more and find ways to complete these articles and that has carried over into the tropical cyclone projects as well. My thing has been is if I can't find a source for it, then it is not true. I will continue to follow that moto and hope that others will do the same.

How is it?ChessEric (talk · contribs) 23:34, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice! Just make sure to properly link [www.tornadohistoryproject.com] (you need to add https://). Also, I don't consider you a newbie, and others don't either. In addition, "My thing has been is if" is need a "that" between is and if. Also, italicize the "I can't find a source for it, then it is not true." Finally, make sure moto is spelled "motto." ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 00:27, 1 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks man! You can make those changes for me and add it in as I'm busy right now. Additionally, I hate that the THP site doesn't have the "http://" defaulted in its URL. So annoying when I site stuff and find that the link is messed up! LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:09, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah. You're welcome; LOL. I also just fixed your talk page (It was my mistake, the template malfunctioned) and greatly expanded Hurricane Teddy. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 00:36, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Gamma
I know it's frustrating, but please still refrain from making personal attacks at even groups of people on Tropical Storm Gamma. (What was this written by!? A 5-year-old!?). And do refrain from swearing too. I'm laughing at your edit summary. LOL! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 02:18, 3 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I'm just stressed out, tired, and in a pissy mood right now.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:33, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It’s ok, since you and Robloxsupersuperhappyface resolved it. But this is exactly why you don’t want to make attacks even if it not directed at a specific user, since a user looking through the revision history will know you’re talking about him/her. To be honest, I get pissed too when my draft gets replaced, but I recently began focusing more on improving older articles (Teddy for example). ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 23:17, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, I wasn't upset by my article being replaced since it happens (I'll probably just use it for something else). I was upset because the article was written so poorly and I had to correct and fix so much of it. By the way I nominate either you or Robloxsupersuperhappyface as the member of the month.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:38, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Just saw your comment. Thanks for nominating me! I don't know where you nominated me or Robloxsupersuperhappyface though...~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:59, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, I don't know where to nominate you guys. LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 01:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Go talk with or . They might have someone already in mind so... ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed has someone in mind for MOTM.Jason Rees (talk) 01:23, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I can predict who the MOTM is. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

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Tropical Storm Noul (2020)
I just finished that draft, and made it into an article.  SMB9 9thx   my edits  13:17, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh. Thanks bro. I had just put in some edits so the article wasn't removed since the photo in the article was deleted and there was nothing else there but that.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 17:29, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Discord
Do you have a discord? Noah Talk 01:10, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I do, but I don't use it very often, although that's because what I used to use it for I don't anymore..ChessEric (talk · contribs) 01:14, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * We have channels for WPTC and the 2018 Featured topic if you would want to be able to communicate with people easier. Noah Talk 01:28, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I saw. Thanks for the reminder though as I've been VERY busy lately. LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 01:32, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't really tend to focus on new storms much anymore... I really haven't since 2019. most of my work tends to not get much notice as it is either on older storms or behind the scenes. If you would like to add me, I am Noah#2278. Noah Talk 01:38, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Gotcha man and thank you! I actually meant I'm busy in real life. Got a 20 page paper due tomorrow and I only got 10 pages done. Just keep typing and typing and seemingly making no progress. LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 01:42, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Someone just called you Cheese Eric. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 16:51, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * TF?!? XD LMAO!! WHO??ChessEric (talk · contribs) 17:02, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think HurricaneHuron33 typed it by mistake - on Hurricane Delta. Look at the revision history. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 18:01, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Speaking of which,, you should come back. We do miss you here. Nova Crystallis  (Talk)  06:28, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I will think about it.... As for ChessEric, keep up the good work! Now I think I'm about ready to retire for the evening. The GAN for Barry really took a lot out of me today. Noah Talk 03:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Refresh Link
Hello, I want to apologize for using the text refresh NHC link for the reference, I am not trying to get on your nerves. I have been trying to fix the links whenever I do them so that it is a better reference, but I can't seem to get it right.... I truly don't mean to get on your nerves, I am just trying to edit, but I don't know the correct way to put the reference in. I take full responsibility as I was the primary editor on the main page throughout the night as I was trying to keep the information on Delta up-to date, and so I added a few of the refresh links. 🌀Weatherman27🌀 (talk). 17:25, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I completely understand what you are saying, so don't worry about it. It's probably not the best time for me to answer you since I'm in a really pissy mood right now, but I will say this; it happens. Its just the fact that I've had to fix ALMOST EVERY STORM THIS YEAR because they all had the same problem and no one else seems to be addressing, but me. That's why I was upset. I understand that you didn't know; I just wish I wasn't the only one fixing the same mistake again and again, although I guess that's what I get for editing as often as I do. LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:52, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Lol, I will try and get better at using the correct references for the storms, so that maybe you can have at least another person who can fix them so that you don't have to do as many. Sorry, to hear that you're not feeling great, hope things get better.🌀Weatherman27🌀 (talk). 19:58, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks bro!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 20:01, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem :) 🌀Weatherman27🌀 (talk). 20:02, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

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Really trying not to violate WP:BULLY
I'm trying hard not to violate WP:BULLY. It was very very hard since this IP - pissed me off on Hurricane Delta. The IP is now blocked. Go check out the edit history for Hurricane Delta and you can go see that mess. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 13:41, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I saw a lot reverts on that page because of that user. I'll see what its about.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 13:58, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You can see that the IP changed it to Cat 5 and kept changing it even though he/she was reverted. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 14:18, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

How would be bullying if your someone to knock it off? If anything, that IP was being a bully!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:39, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No I was trying hard not to say dumbo, stupid, idiot, get off, etc. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 17:29, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You obviously have more patience than I do because I may have said all that and then some. LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 17:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * He's at it again.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:54, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * My God, he's been at it for 16 straight minutes.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 20:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay. This is some bullshit. WHY HASN'T SOMEONE BANNED THIS PERSON YET?!?!? HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 MNUTES NOW!!!!!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 20:05, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

I am unregistered user can you protect Delta from vandals I see that you and Destroyer aa fight vandals along with Light and Dark and others. Can you protect the page? Thank you so much.71.172.254.114 (talk) 20:12, 9 October 2020 (UTC) I can't do that because I'm not an admin, but I'm sure they are already working on that after that BS.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 20:15, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Is Light and Dark or Fanovian or Destroyer an admin? 71.172.254.114 (talk) 20:22, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Pretty sure they all are, but it has been done already so don't worry.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 20:45, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

ChessEric, so I leave for two hours and Wikipedia explodes. That same good-faith IP-71.something-asked me on my talk page why he can’t edit the page. That’s the downside of semi-protection. However, I see that the super evil vandal returned. If it was me, I would’ve went to Report him immediately - since it was evidently an IP hopper. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 21:02, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I was thinking more along the lines of crazy, but nonetheless, what happened there was plain-out just stupid. There was even unlogged editor who was trying to help us out. It was just dumb, annoying, and stupid and I got really ticked off. The only reason why I wasn't name calling was because I was too busy reverting and my laptop wouldn't load the page when I was reverting. I mean, this dude was just waiting for the revert so he could autorevert back to his BS. I've always wondered what people get out of being an asshole like that on Wikipedia. Most people dog Wikipedia for being inaccurate so what's the point of coming on if your just going to do that and get blocked anyway? Also, we have sandboxes and there are hypothetical pages on other sites where you can just make up stuff and do whatever you want! It just baffles me! I feel bad for because he/she was one of the people trying to help us out, but at the same time, it is just unbelievable that we have to go this far with so of the yahoos.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:29, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Even with Twinkle, I still ran into edit conflicts in the first incident. People are like that on Wikipedia, and I have met some worse vandals than that (vandals that don't just revert your edits, but either hijack pages or cuss at you). It is annoying, and I do feel bad for that IP - . The IP was just trying to help, but felt dejected (or bitten) that he/she wasn't allowed to edit either. I think the IP doesn't know about requested edits or semi-confirmed page protection, since looking at the IP's edits, there aren't a lot of contribs. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:46, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * And the poor IP's user page just got vandalized:
 * Wow! This dude is ruthless! LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 14:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hurricane Delta lede
Hi, thanks for the second revert there - the WP system actually didn't alert me to the first, otherwise I would have caught on to your idea (which I guess is that the first line of the lede will soon change almost completely). 'United States' must surely be a case of overlinking, though. Best wishes, Harfarhs (talk) 06:23, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah. I'm relatively new here, but have quickly becoming established on this site and like trying new things to try to make it better. That was the point of what I did. Thanks for your feedback!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 13:17, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I'd like to ask you some help about copyright pictures
I've seen you added an image of the Joplin 2011 tornado and it gave me an idea to add an image of the actual tornado on the Hackleburg 2011 and the Tuscaloosa 2011 tornado pages, becouse they had debris damage as front page, not a single image about the tornado itself. I've done it nicely, sadly the images will probably get removed after a week becouse I have no confirmation that I can use those images. The one you used on the Joplin page is clearly from a video on youtube I saw a while ago, how did you manage to get the image accepted? Sorry for stupid question, I'm very new to editing on wikipedia. Thanks in advance :)
 * Thanks for the question!
 * Actually, those images came directly from the individual NWS offices on weather.gov. Once the images go there, they become public domain, so you shouldn't have to about copyright. For example, the Joplin tornado pic came from the NWS Springfield page of the tornado. Its a shame that many other tornadoes are not like this, but when they are there, I do take advantage of it. I hope that helps!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 15:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hurricane Leslie
Concerning the statement about extratropical cyclones and sustained hurricane force winds...unless I am totally off about something, it's pretty rare to have extratropical cyclones featuring sustained winds of 75 mph or greater, which constitute hurricane force winds. That is what this storm did. Just to be clear, we're talking about sustained winds, not peak wind gusts. G. Capo (talk) 22:52, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's not uncommon at all, especially with (sub)tropical cyclones that transition to extratropical cyclones as well as the windstorms in Europe. Look at storms like Hurricane Grace (1991), Hurricane Ophelia (2017), Hurricane Dorian (2019), and Hurricane Teddy (2020) if you want other examples of this.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 23:21, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * And Michael is a famous example.71.172.254.114 (talk) 21:17, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Delta
It is  necessary to include that. I mentioned that as a record for the season-Destroyeraa claimed it was in the article, if it isn’t, this would mean I’d support the article. Please just leave it. --67.85.37.186 (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No. I will not. It is already in the record section and it doesn't need to be in there twice so no.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:32, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Additionally, the section you put that info already had it and its the lede of the article. We don't need that info twice in the same section.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:35, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Hurricane Epsilon
I am going to assume good faith that you missed the discussion at Talk:2020 Atlantic hurricane season. There seems to be a pretty clear consensus against rushing to make the article at this time. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 04:05, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * We can still keep it as a draft, . I kept it as a draft and re-added the information. Don't move it to mainspace or redirect it without notifying everyone and/or gaining consensus.~ Destroyeraa 🌀 13:31, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Oops. I didn't know there had been discussion on this. I had tuned out for a little while after the whole Hurricane Teddy and Delta pic fiasco. LOL! Sorry about that.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:02, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Hey
Hey. Just wanted to put my view on your edit summaries. They seem very WP:BITEy to me (on my watchlist). If you could, I'd appreciate you to keep your summaries a little lower key. That make sense? Instead of ...just why?, maybe something like copyedit.

Keep up the work, and remember the WP:NORUSH aspect of Wikipedia. Thanks!--intelatitalk 19:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that. A little frustrated that's all. I express my opinion on things a little bit too often on here I guess. LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries! I'm just a little wary of things escalating... Too much experience with that...intelatitalk 19:32, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of that too, as I'm still somewhat new myself. I may have quickly established myself, but I still have A LOT to learn! LOL!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:34, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

TD 28
Hey, I just thought you'd like to know, there is a draft for TD28. TornadoLGS (talk) 03:17, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know bro!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 05:12, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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