User talk:ChessEric/Archives/2021/March

Another Barnstar

 * Thanks bro!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:39, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Two barnstars for you!

 * Thanks! The removal of the Tornado History Project slowed down the progress I had with making articles, but I'm improving the damage info for other articles right now.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 15:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Careless Reverting
You need to cop the attitude right now. I am getting sick and tired of you thinking you run this place and trying to change everything to have it your way. You added information that was nowhere to be found in the sources which followed that information, so I removed the unsourced information. If you want to add something, you need to cite a reliable source. Do not get an attitude with me in edit summaries. I will not put up with such a childish way of behavior. United States Man (talk) 17:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I do not see how I was childish. I POINTED OUT where the information was IN THE SOURCE! READ IT! If anything, YOU are being bossy and trying boss everyone around by acting like a rule nazi. I put in the information based on what I find and THAT'S IT. Period. Don't come to me saying I'm being childish when YOU were trying to remove an ongoing outbreak from the main tornado page yesterday claiming its "NOTNEWS." That's ignornant. Read the source, look up the information, and THEN come back to me. I'm not going to speak about this ridiculousness again. I should be the one talking to YOU about careless reverting, but I didn't. I'm NOT a newbie anymore and I know the rules, so LEAVE ME ALONE.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll comment here once more the same thing I said at Talk:Tornadoes of 2021: "You cannot add information without a valid reliable source. If you do not realize that by now I do not know what to tell you. Just because you saw it in a video doesn't mean you can add it here." That's all I've got to say on the matter. United States Man (talk) 00:13, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Since I was pinged here, the SPC storm report do not explicitly say that two large tornadoes were on the ground simultaneously. Even from those reports, it is not entirely clear whether it was one large tornado with satellites or a tornado family.
 * Also, neither of you are being very civil. Please cool it down. TornadoLGS (talk) 00:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Refresh links
Refresh links from the NHC are acceptable if they are archived. Please pay attention before removing stuff like do you on Hurricane Hanna next time.DachshundLover82 (talk) 20:56, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * No they are not because the refresh link updates with EVERY advisory, meaning that the info has no valid source under that link. This is problem that multiple people have been trying to address. Do NOT archive those links. They are not good references to use.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 01:49, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

, web archives save that info which is the same info used in the NHC archive. If it is updated in time it will be that certain update, that is the only time they are allowed.DachshundLover82 (talk)

and by adressing you mean coming onto people talk pages and leaving the dramatic and rude message like, "Please for lords sake STOP using the archive thing!!!" DachshundLover82 (talk) 02:11, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

(1) It doesn't matter. The TCR is enough. (2) When did I say a rude comment on ANYONE'S talk page?ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

This can be considered a rude tone https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/981669001 plus I saw you make a similar comment to the example above on an past edit summary. If you want things to change, come at a different approach instead of acting like it’s planet Earth’s end.DachshundLover82 (talk) 03:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

(1) I expressed myself in a assertive, but non-aggressive tone that was not even directed at you. (2) Edit summary is not directed at anyone either.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 03:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

(1) If it wasn’t directed at me, why was it on my talk page? All messages on talk pages should be directed at the people that are being messaged. (2) Regardless of who or what edit summaries are targeted at, you should still not act like it’s the end if the world. (3) I find it hard to believe that was supposed to be assertive, you sounded more like a character on an UniMás television show.DachshundLover82 (talk) 01:48, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm not having this conversation with you anymore. I was passionate when I spoke and it was on your talk page, but I was making a general statement about having to change out the refresh link, which I had to REPEATEDLY throughout the hurricane season. It wasn't just you. Your interpretation of what I said about it in the edit summary is what your interpretation for it, And before you come at me about being a character from a channel I don't even watch, ask other users like about using the refresh link and they will say the same thing. I will not apologize for my actions because I did nothing wrong. Period. I'm not talking about this anymore.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:19, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Why should we rely on web archive alone when the NHC has a much better archive with the permanent links? It serves no purpose but to make the reader experience less convenient. After all, each permanent link leads to just one advisory whereas all the advisories share the refresh link. Thus the refresh link is almost useless to the reader who might want to look at exactly how the NHC website shows it. That’s not to say we shouldn’t archive, but web archiving need not be the only way.

The TCR won’t cover everything the advisories do even though it covers the majority—this is especially the case when we want to compare operational and post-analysis decisions. In that case, we should always use a permanent advisory link.—Jasper Deng (talk) 03:19, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

ChessEric, you also could have been far less aggressive on this talk page. WP:CIVIL applies to everyone, including DaschundLover82. Jasper Deng (talk) 03:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I will take that into account, although I do want to point out that that comment was made 5 months ago when I was still learning about how to have productive conversations on talk pages.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * For the record, we use archive links only when the website does not manually archive the advisories or bulletins. This usually happens for the JTWC, the IMD, and the BoM. For the NHC, this means that we don't use web archives, because the NHC naturally archives their advisories. Honestly, they're not hard to find, either. For an active storm, look above the graphics to where the "archive" link is for that storm. And on the NHC's site, they are all filed under Archives > Tropical Cyclone Advisories.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 19:30, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted
Hi ChessEric, I just wanted to let you know that I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&page=User%3AChessEric added] the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! ~Swarm~ {sting} 02:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Tornado Years 1940-1946
I'm finding myself less time to put in info for the articles. Still I've checked out Grazulis' Significant Tornadoes book from the library, and used it, so far, start the articles for the Tornado Years in the 1940s. I'll try help out when I can with what little time I have free.--Halls4521 (talk) 23:48, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm in the same boat so don't worry about. ANY contribution is helpful. Thanks for letting me know.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:01, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I have the book as well, so I can pitch in there. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks bro!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:28, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

A new draft you might be interested in
Hey. I started Draft:Tornado outbreak of March 25, 2021 and thought you might be interested in it. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks!ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:17, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Tornado outbreak sequence
"A tornado outbreak sequence, or tornado outbreak day sequence, sometimes referred to as an extended tornado outbreak, is a period of continuous or nearly continuous high tornado activity consisting of a series of tornado outbreaks over multiple days with no or very few days lacking tornado outbreaks."

This was not an extended outbreak. The other user was confused when that was moved to a sequence. We have plenty of articles on outbreaks of similar length that are not sequences. United States Man (talk) 18:14, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Then tell that. Don't tell me. I'm going by what he/she said.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't have to. We are the ones editing it. You need to decide that for yourself, not going by what someone else says. You are getting the wrong idea based on someone else being wrong. And automatically assuming I am wrong, which I don't appreciate. I am going to move it back to the original title; if you think it needs to be changed you can start a discussion. United States Man (talk) 18:19, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I gotcha. Thanks for letting me know. By the way, random question, but what part of Tennessee are you from/live in?ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:17, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the whole week leading up to that was considered a sequence (however it was very dominated by the Palm Sunday outbreak). Unless all those other days preceding are added in, it would be misleading to have the last couple days of the outbreak as a sequence.
 * I am from Middle Tennessee between Nashville and Knoxville. United States Man (talk) 19:22, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Cool. My parents used to live in Tennessee when they were in the military before I was born so I just wondering.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:27, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Fort Campbell? United States Man (talk) 19:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yep.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:30, 29 March 2021 (UTC)