User talk:ChessEric/Archives/2023/April

No Directional Titles for Full Summaries
We don’t use directional titles for full summaries, and never have. That’s for tables only. Please stop doing this, as consistency is important, and you can’t just change formatting after years of precedent. North Dallas is an actual community with its own wiki page, so that isn’t a directional title. You’re mis-understanding this whole thing. TornadoInformation12 (talk) 23:19, 13 April 2023 (UTC)TornadoInformation12


 * If that's the case, why isn't "North Little Rock" being in the title enough to suffice in the section being about Little Rock? Chess  Eric  00:03, 14 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Because North Little Rock is it's own city, separate from Little Rock, with it's own local government. They are two different cities.

TornadoInformation12 (talk) 00:07, 14 April 2023 (UTC)TornadoInformation12


 * Consistency isn't really a good enough reason for me either; after all, I switched up how we listed reported tornadoes and confirmed tornadoes in the lead this year. However, at this point, I've spoken my peace and, as I said before the year started, we can't keep having petty arguments over small things like this. Therefore, for the sake of not trying to start anything even though I don't agree here, I'll leave this alone, especially since I have a lot of respect for what you do. As always, good job on expanding the sections; don't worry about them being "too long" either. Let's also hope we don't need any more for a while if you know what I mean. Chess  Eric  00:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks
 * TornadoInformation12 (talk) 00:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC)TornadoInformation12

Y'know...
Since we chat a lot about weather sometimes, for future offtopic discussions, do you have Discord or something to communicate for upcoming severe weather outbreaks? I mean, this is the only way to go, since if we chat too much about the upcoming outbreaks and current warnings, I fear we might go past WP:NOTFORUM territory! Tails  Wx  00:51, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * True. I have a Discord, so its good. I was getting off topic in the discussion, but we should talk about a section being made now. Chess  Eric  01:19, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Since news reports are already starting to report a tornado near Cole, Oklahoma, I've gone ahead and created a section! Tails   Wx  01:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Also for the reverts on Talk:Tornadoes of 2023...I mean, they're really close to violating WP:3RR at this point, so I think the best idea is to strike up a discussion with Jasper Deng with discussion issues instead of causing more trouble, and if this continues, this might be reported at some noticeboard, unfortunately, and I don't want to get further involved in this, so I think the best idea is to talk to Jasper Deng in a civil way! Tails   Wx  01:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If I get reverted again, I'm leaving it alone. I spoke my peace. Chess  Eric  01:41, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand your excitement, ChessEric, but one or two on-topic comments does not justify keeping around a whole off-topic storm-chasing chat.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Generally, people have no need to enter into places they don't generally occupy with the sole purpose of causing trouble with inhabitants. United States Man (talk) 05:10, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Meh. I spoke my peace. I understand. I wasn't storm chasing; I was at home. It was more of a "heads up," since I was in danger, and basically tell people that in case something happens to me,...well...continue on without me?...I'm not making sense am I? XD  I literally have no idea what you're talking about.  Chess  Eric  13:37, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

April 19th Supercell behavior
You reverted my change about how the supercell and surrounding environment should have started to deteriorate, but didn't because the nature of the supercell produced it's own sort of environment to maintain energy. I'm basing this mainly off of the MA from the NWS here: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/archive/event.php?date=20230419 as well as comments from meteorologist Andy Hill who echoed the same thing in his stream analyzing the storm. Generally the moisture and temperature was pointing towards less and less potential in the evening. There were some areas of potent low-level moisture eastwards, but the supercell would have scaled down by then. Just wondering what you think, I believe it's an accurate notion to include. Wikiwillz (talk) 22:10, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I believe you, but the problem I have with that is that MCD #565 (which was issued at 8:02 pm CDT) said the environment would still be favorable for tornadoes for another 2-3 hours, which was further backed up by the 0100 UTC outlook update and MCD #568. I also felt like what you said was a little confusing as well. Chess  Eric  23:21, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Request for some help with List of United States tornadoes in 1946
Hey ChessEric! I’ve been working to try to get the List of United States tornadoes in 1946 underway and I’ve main some good progress. January—April, August, & December are fully done, half of May is done as well (Page progress checklist). I’ve screenshotted a few of the charts to share to friend and people have caught a handful of grammar errors (my favorite was “…buildings were damage or destroyed”, which obviously was “damaged or destroyed”). Anyway, would you mind checking the article out every now and then to see if I made some stupid grammar error like that? Also, feel free to help out if you want or reword/rework any of the tornado summaries. Much appreciated!

P.S. I 100% understand why NOAA started official records in 1950. Pre-1950 is absolutely a nightmare! (So far, the US Weather Bureau apparently documented like 4 “tornadoes” (NOT) in 1946 alone that were wider than 2013 El Reno). Elijahandskip (talk) 18:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Official records during the "beginning" of the modern era are terrible too. LOL! Chess  Eric  22:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)