User talk:Chetsford/Archive 39

DYK nomination of James Townsend (abolitionist)
Hello! Your submission of James Townsend (abolitionist) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  Naruto love hinata 5 (talk · contributions) 10:45, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

2023 Luxembourg general election
Hello Chetsford. Many thanks for protecting this article – however, on the RFPP page you mentioned it was protected for a week, but only seems to be for 48 hours? Cheers, Number   5  7  12:53, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * 57 - thanks and sorry, an oversight by me. Should be fixed now. Chetsford (talk) 19:21, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Bobbie R. Allen
Hello @Chetsford. Thanks for your input as I'm in agreement that the article should be cited sufficiently to confirm the notability of the subject. I've added twelve citations under "Additional References" heading. These are all secondary sources I believe. Let me know if you have any further questions. Regards, Wdallen49 (talk) 14:08, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Wdallen49 - I didn't go through them all, however, from a quick scan I suspect references like thetruthaboutguns.com, a law firm's website, a powerpoint presentation, etc. won't pass our threshold of WP:RS. Generally, things like newspaper articles, scholarly journal articles, books by established publishing houses, etc. are what is needed to demonstrate WP:SIGCOV in RS in order to establish the WP:N of a subject. Also, these should be inline cited, not simply added to a list at the end. Chetsford (talk) 15:30, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Chetsford - I re-worked the article to add inline citations. Also added "Who's Who in America" citation, added Life Magazine citation where subject was interviewed regarding air turbulence. Also added citation for a Public Television documentary aired in 1967.  Subject is the interviewee in the documentary. Regarding notability, WP:ANYBIO: the subject in my article meets all three of these criteria.Wdallen49 (talk) 00:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Request on 19:36:02, 21 January 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Holyhootenany
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Would more albums in discography enhance the notability requirements? Any editing feedback would be appreciated.


 * Hi, guy. Please see WP:MUSICBIO and let me know if the subject of this article meets any of these 12 criteria and, if so, which ones and I'll re-review it. But merely airdropping more albums into the discography by itself will not help, no. Chetsford (talk) 19:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. Holyhootenany (talk) 20:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Marcus Ericsson and LTA
Hi. Thanks for adding the page protection. Just passing on what I know. The individual is an LTA. See Talk:Chris Buescher and the linked discussions within that post for some background and history. Lately when I report to AIV, they typically block for "Block evasion" (latest example) I assume in reference to the lengthy block of one of the ranges. I recommend blocking this particular IP if you're at all inclined to do so. -- DB 1729 talk 06:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Naci Görür
Hi, thanks for reviewing this. I'm a bit confused as to why this does not include sufficient references. Could I know a little bit more about the rationale behind the decline? TLA (talk) 05:45, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm tla - on further review, you're correct, this does meet the WP:GNG. Please resubmit and then let me know once you've done so. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for bringing it to my attention. Chetsford (talk) 03:12, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Appreciated. It's a thankless job – maybe I could have built upon more. I've resubmitted! TLA  (talk) 07:04, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No need to apologize, it was my fault for not catching that his publications obviously qualify under Criterion 1 of WP:NPROF. I think I misspelled his name incorrectly when I ran him through Google Scholar. Anyway, I just saw it was accepted. Thanks for your patience! Chetsford (talk) 00:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Non-free rationale for File:Charleston County Public Library.jpg
Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:Charleston County Public Library.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under non-free content criteria, but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to the file description page, and edit it to include a non-free rationale.

If you have uploaded other non-free media, consider checking that you have specified the non-free rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described in section F6 of the criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions, please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Salavat (talk) 14:59, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Salavat - thanks for the heads-up. This should have been uploaded as a CC free file. I'll correct it. Chetsford (talk) 00:45, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Re: My "Bruce Leonard Solie" draft
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Regarding my citing former high-level Army Intelligence analyst and NSA officer John M. Newman's *self-published* book, Uncovering Popov's Mole in my draft, I'd like to point out that in addition to his being a professor of political science and there being a Wikipedia article on him, Carroll and Graf published his 600+ page Oswald and the CIA in 1995, Warner Books published his JFK and Vietnam: Deception, Intrigue and the Struggle for Power in 1992, and he gave testimony to the Assassination Records Review Board in 1991. In short, I think it's fair to say that he's an expert on the CIA and the KGB, and that I should therefore be allowed to cite his 2022 book, Uncovering Popov's Mole in my draft. Thanks. PS Please check out my Wikipedia article on Solie's bugbear, Tennent H. Bagley Was Kisevalter Nash? (talk) 02:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Was Kisevalter Nash? - what is this regarding? Chetsford (talk) 04:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Chetsford. As suggested in the title of my message to you, it's regarding my Wikipedia draft article on Bruce Leonard Solie, which draft article was turned down for publication by Wikipedia a couple of weeks ago, and about which you told me at that time that John M. Newman's self-published book, Uncovering Popov's Mole, was probably unacceptable for me to use as a citation because ... well ... he self-published it. PS I believe I mentioned Solie at least once in my Wikipedia article on Tennent H. Bagley which article was published by Wikipedia about half-a-year ago. Have you had an opportunity to read it, yet? Thanks! Was Kisevalter Nash? (talk) 05:19, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Was Kisevalter Nash? - could you please provide a link to the draft so I have a frame of reference? I've reviewed dozens of drafts in the last few weeks so I may not be able to clearly or coherently comment on any single one sans more overt guidance. Chetsford (talk) 05:22, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry. Here's the link. I think. Draft:Bruce Leonard Solie - Wikipedia Was Kisevalter Nash? (talk) 06:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Okay, that didn't work. How do I go about doing that? Was Kisevalter Nash? (talk) 06:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

It's on my "Was Kisevalter Nash?" talk page. Was Kisevalter Nash? (talk) 06:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

It at the bottom of this page: User talk:Was Kisevalter Nash? Was Kisevalter Nash? (talk) 06:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Was Kisevalter Nash? - thanks, I've reviewed the article again. It is extensively sourced to YouTube videos and John Newman's self-published book. While Newman may be a subject-matter expert, our policy on WP:SELFPUBLISH states: "Exercise caution when using such sources: if the information in question is suitable for inclusion, someone else will probably have published it in independent, reliable sources." Given the specific subject-matter of the article, I don't believe a self-published source is sufficient to meet the standards of WP:V per WP:REDFLAG regardless of the author's credentials. Insofar as the other sources: the Heuer source directs to a broken link and can't be verified, the offline Bagley book I have access to and can review and can find no mention of the subject in it, the paid obit notice is not WP:RS, and the Simpich essay doesn't mention the subject at all. There are a few other offline sources I can't access, however, given the problems with those I can access I feel comfortable rejecting this as a second time and have done so. Thanks for checking, however. Chetsford (talk) 21:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Chetsford.

It's a pity that the Richards Heuer link is broken. I have a copy of his 29-page article, and I've just now counted eleven times that he mentions Solie in it.

Regarding Simpich, my citation # 19 was intended to refer to Chapter 1 (I may have said Chapter 2 by mistake) in his online article, State Secret -- and not to Bruce Solie, per se, but to the background story as to why probable "mole" Solie may have sent (or duped his confidant, protégé, and mole-hunting subordinate, James Angleton, into sending) Lee Harvey Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA; i.e., that in April of 1958, Popov told the CIA in Berlin (via his CIA handler, George Kisevalter) that he'd overheard a drunken GRU colonel brag that the Kremlin knew all about the CIA's top-secret Lockheed U-2 spy plane.

This is what Simpich writes about that in his State Secret article, Chapter 1 "The Double Dangle":

''While Oswald was a radar operator in Asia, Col. Pyotr Popov was a top double agent for the CIA, providing important Soviet military intelligence to Angleton under the code name ATTIC. In April, 1958, Popov heard a drunken colonel brag about the "technical details" that the KGB had on a new high-altitude spycraft that America was flying over the USSR. Popov concluded that the leak of such details came from within the U-2 project itself. While in Berlin, Popov passed this U-2 leak to the Agency [via his handler, George Kisevalter] and then returned to Moscow.[10]''


 * Factoid: The U-2 Project was run by the CIA's Office of Security, and Solie was privy to its secrets because he worked in the Office of Security during his entire CIA career (1951-1979).

Simpich's footnote [10] refers to pages 154-55 in Mark Riebling's fine book, Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA (published in 1994 by Alfred A. Knopf), in which he writes about Solie on eleven pages. I forgot to add that 563-page opus as a citation or two in my draft. Riebling's Wedge is free-to-read on the internet -- just Google "wedge" "riebling" and "archive" simultaneously.

Finally, regarding Tennent H. Bagley, I don't know which "offline" book of his you've got, but in his 2007 Yale University Press book, Spy Wars: Moles, Mysteries and Deadly Games (which is also free-to-read online by Googling "spy wars" and "archive" simultaneously), he writes quite a lot about Solie (and rather scathingly, I might add) on yet another eleven pages (232-3, 236-8, 241-45, 328).

Thanks!

PS I see that my # 19 citation wasn't to Simpich's long State Secret article, after all, but to his shorter The Twelve Who Built the Oswald Legend article, instead. My bad. Regardless, he says the same thing about Popov, the drunken GRU colonel, and the U-2 in it as he said in State Secret, but for some reason he doesn't link it to pages 154-55 in Riebling's book. Oh well.

Was Kisevalter Nash? (talk) 01:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Was Kisevalter Nash? - This is just far too long for me to go through. However, I get the sense that this is a doorway into a WP:WALLEDGARDEN of I.C. WP:FANCRUFT. Since you have an interest in the topic, I'll let you know that I've nominated Richards Heuer for deletion in case you'd like to weigh-in on the discussion. I suspect, but don't know, that there may be additional articles in this series that don't meet the WP:GNG. Chetsford (talk) 21:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)