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Early dynasty pages
Hi Chewings72. Nice to get an opportunity to talk to you this way. I'm looking forward to seeing your contributions. As a start, besides Verner who would be a good source for the discussion about Nimaethap, Nebka, Sanakht etc? I think you're right that a more detailed discussion may be in order. The time is complicated and the experts sometimes disagree, but it would be nice to clean up that segment on Wikipedia. Any thoughts? --AnnekeBart (talk) 13:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comments. I am an amateur historian who has only recently decided to get involved in reviewing the articles on Wikipedia dealing with Ancient Egypt.
 * So I am dependent on  the expertise of others  on issues such as the likely date that events happened in ancient Egypt  and the duration and order of individual Kings' reigns.
 * I have noticed that some articles use Shaw as the basis of calculating dates, while you make reference to Verner.  I have noticed that a site set up by Dariusz Sitek called "Ancient Egypt - History and Chronology" (http://www.narmer.pl/indexen.htm)  provides a very thorough bibliography  of writers on the  various Egyptian dynasties.  In this regard, I note that there are variations of up to 100 years in the dates of the reigns for the various pharaohs from the third Dynasty.
 * What worries me is that various authors of different Wikipedia articles about the early Dynasties in Egypt are quite happily using different dates because they refer to different authors as their primary source(s).  So when I was exploring the issue of the order of the pharaohs of the third Dynasty, one of my frustrations was trying to determine which authority (or authorities) was the best.
 * Therefore, I wonder whether somebody needs to unilaterally make a decision about a particular author to use as the basis for dates and as the basis for the order of the early pharaohs for all the relevant Wikipedai articles, even if that decision is somewhat arbitrary.
 * Given that I have only recently decided to get involved in looking at the articles in Wikipedia dealing with the early Egyptian Dynasty's, do you know if this issue been dealt with in the past or whether there is a contributor to Wikipedia who is able to help guide this discussion?  --Chewings72 (talk) 10:40, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm an amateur historian as well. The problem with the dating is an interesting one. It seems to me that the best we may be able to do is to provide the different dates given by scholars? For the early dynastic and old kingdom periods all they are able to do is estimate and I noticed too that the dates can differ by a century or more. I think for as far as the 3rd dynasty goes, it's not just the dates that are in question. The order of the kings is as well (from what I understand). My impression is that as an online encyclopedia Wikipedia should reflect the different theories. The sources should be listed so that an interested person can investigate further.
 * I think someone like Dougweller, Alensha or Leoboudv would know more about the history of this issue and if any consensus has been reached about how to deal with it. --AnnekeBart (talk) 13:59, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I just looked at Wilkinson's book about early dynastic Egypt and there is a very nice discussion by him about the chronology of the 3rd dynasty. The King lists (Abydos, Turin, etc) all give a sequence starting with Nebka, then Djoser etc. The archaeological data contradicts that order however. I hopefully will have some time over the weekend, but maybe the clearest thing to do is to write into the article about the 3rd dynasty something about the issues about the chronology of this list of kings and explain what the problems are. Lehner seems to stick to the order of kings as outlined in the king lists, Verner, Wilkinson, Helck seem to favor a chronology which places Sanakht closer to the end of the dynasty. I think our job is not to choose one interpretation but provide a description of the state of knowledge. And if that includes different interpretations, then that's what should be written into the article. --AnnekeBart (talk) 14:26, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi AnnekeBart. I agree with your views on the best way forward.  I had a quick look at the current Wikipedia article on the Third dynasty of Egypt.  It currently has a fairly brief discussion about the ordering of the pharaohs and really does not discuss the dates issue.  Rather it focusses on using the Shaw dates with a degree of preciseness that belies the challenges of dating any event from the 3rd dynasty.  How did your weekend homework go??  --Chewings72 (talk) 11:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I did a first run at the Third dynasty of Egypt article. I need to rework it somewhat, but this at least puts a list of kings with links up there with some explanation of the difficulties inherent in studying this time period. --AnnekeBart (talk) 13:16, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Biography project talk page revision
Hi you incorrectly attributed the comments you reverted to me - if you look you will see it was anon user I responded to the previous post Thruxton (talk) 06:14, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I think there is some confusion. I did not revert your contribution regarding Ralph Regenvanu. Nor did my comment imply that you had made the change I reverted. Rather I reverted an inappropriate entry by an anonymous contributer - 212.183.140.23. As the explanation to my action says: "Revert to revision 406891836 dated 2011-01-09 16:15:15 by Thruxton using popups", that is return the section back to the version as updated by Thruxton. You will see that your entry is unaffected by my action. --Chewings72 (talk) 06:36, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Concernings
If you are concerned about my edits, why don´t you talk with ME about? Or is it common here to talk only behind other´s back obout them??? There´s truely no single reason to mistrust my works just because my sources are not english. disappointed, --Nephiliskos (talk) 03:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, no offence intended. My apologies for not writing to you directly. I was asking a person who has been contributing for quite a while on Egyptian articles for a check of your changes, not criticising your input.  I added my comments since you had made your comments there.  I think that was reasonable as supported by how quickly you have responded to my comment.  The reason for my concern is your references to "Teti II" and other related references that don't seem to have links to any royalty or nobles included in existing Wikipedia articles.  --Chewings72 (talk) 04:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I answered at my page. I´m sorry. Greetings; --Nephiliskos (talk) 04:35, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. All is fine now.  All the best with your studies :)  Regards  --Chewings72 (talk) 04:53, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Djeseretnebti
Hi. I´m sorry, but according to the Abydos kinglist the direct successor of Djoser (Hor-Netjerichet) is called "Teti", who´s identified with Hor-Sekhemkhet. Egyptologist normally call him "Teti II.", since "Teti I." is the same as "Athotis". The kinglist for the 3rd dyn. is spelled in the Abydos-list as following: Nebka, ...djeser, Teti, Sedjes and Neferkarê. --Nephiliskos (talk) 10:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I was using the Wikipedia article on the third dynasty kings which has the order and names of the kings based on Toby A.H. Wilkinson, in his 2001 book "Early Dynastic Egypt". Thus my confusion. Clearly, the name and order of the kings of this period is subject to much speculation and guess work.  So please write the article as you think best reflects the evidence.  Regards  --Chewings72 (talk) 11:40, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Weneg (pharaoh)
Thx for yer help. ;-) best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 15:10, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Seth-Peribsen
Hi there. Srry, I simply had forgotten the refs for the section "Political motivations". They are in now. What do you think of the article as such? best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 12:43, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi.^^ Thx for your great response. You are like so welcome to my page! I´m always happy if someone helps me out. Yes, as readable at mah homepage, German is my mother-language. The Englisch I learned, differs from what is called "school english" in my country. I´ve learned pub-english thx to a acquaintance who´s British. And, yes, as you already noticed, I have still some problems with "curatorial English". I rlly hope to be able to solve them one day... I´m truely srry, if my articles cause some circumstances, but I rlly don`t know it better yet. I often don`t know how to translate without a lost of meanings and contents hidden in the diction.


 * I´m a total geek for Early Dynastic Egypt. That´s why I started to write articles in de.Wikipedia. But I also saw the articles here. I´m not up to critisize the works of the authors here, but many articles about early Egyptian kings are in a lamentable state! The next thing is that english literature - as far mah experiences reach - often content too less informations or simply repeat overaged theories. Some few exceptions are Toby a. Wilkinson, Miriam Lichtheim and the page of Francesco Raffaele. In fact, there are more german books and magazines, that are constantly up-to-date. Egyptologists such as Wolfgang Helck, Nicholas Grimal, Thomas Schneider, Silke Roth, Rainer Stadelmann and Hermann Alexander Schlögl are worldwide known for their excellent writing works.


 * Of course I see the linguistic problems. Many English peoples don`t speak and read German, whilst many Germans don`t have a command of a good Englisch. But in my humble opinion it´s just a question of will and want to cooperate, so that articles with an always up-to-date content can be written and presented. I rlly hope that I can manage to be able to present good works.


 * With best regards; --Nephiliskos (talk) 08:29, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Senedj
Mah next "victim". ;-) best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 15:39, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thou are such a great help! Thx!!!^^ --Nephiliskos (talk) 08:28, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Raneb
And on we go... :D --Nephiliskos (talk) 12:53, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Meanwhile I get problems. It looks like mah hieroglyphic boxes are not welcome. --Nephiliskos (talk) 19:08, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Just wanted to thank Chewings72 for doing the copyedit on the Raneb article. Much appreciated! When I have the time I will take a closer look at the edits myself and will see if I can add anything to them. Cheers! Captmondo (talk) 13:27, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Request
Hi, Chewings72!^^ I wonder if it made sense to discuss the new hiero-boxes I used to present the names of the early kings. I see some problems with the older boxes:
 * No horus-name, no gold-name, no nebtj-name... NOTHING. The old boxes give no useful information, and if so, these informations are redundant, incorrect or incomplete.
 * The old boxes call upon the mommahs and poppahs of the early kings. This is highly problematic, since Egyptologists are pretty unsure about any interfamiliar kinships. Few exception are queen Meritneith and queen Hetep-herj-nebtj (the mom of Djoser). Their names appear on seal impressions, together with their titles declaring them as king´s moms. Yes, I know, the Palermostone calles some king´s mommahs, too. But their identities are questioned, because their names do not appear in the early dynastic tombs.
 * The German boxes I use beat us the opportunity to present all important names of the early kings in words and signs. In german Wikipedia a broad palette of different hiero-boxes also give the chance to even sho titles and rare name forms.

It´s not about meh, ok... I rlly just wonder if it was possible to introduce and use the new boxes instead of the old ones. I´m sure that you will agree with meh after taking a closer look tot it. With best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 17:41, 25 September 2011 (UTC)PS: I please everyone to respond at mah talk page, so I get it when You are on.

Seeking Your Opinion on Updating the Pharaoh Infobox
Hello there:

Just wanted to point out a proposed change to the Pharaoh infobox that I have made, and would value your opinion on.

Cheers! Captmondo (talk) 16:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hi. ;-) I´d like to know where I could expand the Pharaoh´s list that appear for example in Peribsen. Some of the 2nd dynasty kings are missing there. cheers; --Nephiliskos (talk) 21:21, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankie!^^ Meanwhile I was VERY busy. I thought some kind of "congress" was good in whih everyone who assisted and advised meh so generously shall be there, to discuss the up-to-date sutuation. Is my administrating the new box good? Are there still questions? Pls take some moments and join the discussion. Thx. Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 18:09, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have answered at mah page, together with a question. Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 10:05, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

List of kings of Babylon - edits by anon
I hadn’t edited this page yet, as I had already corrected the Kassite monarch list sections on the Mesopotamia Dynasty list, Kassites and Short chronology timeline pages and felt that this just duplicated the information. Anon’s edits seem OK, although describing Dynasty V as Kassite is definitely a minority view, and Shutruk-Nahhunte overthrew Zababa-shuma-iddin and not Enlil-nadin-ahi.BigEars42 (talk) 11:08, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi, according to Georges Roux in Ancient Iraq, Dynasty V was Kassite, he may be wrong of course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.116.120 (talk) 21:44, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Imhotep´s dreams
Hi. Oh, oh, oh...! Oh my, the source for the article´s text is ANCIENT! 1923???? That was even before Hitler! That´s a no-no, such overaged sources CAN be used, but then it shall be said, that it is overaged and it shall be used only together with an up-todate source! Who knows, the overaged translation might be overaged, too. I will study the Neferkasokar-story again, maybe I´ll find some infos about Imhoteps dream? Besides, I´m curious, does Imo really appear in the famine-stela? I always thought its about king Djoser who was admonished by Khnum to sacrifise him "all good things" so the god would make the nile flow again...? Hmmmmm... At least I think its worth a research. Thx! Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 12:53, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * And soon I found something.^^ Looks like I better re-write the articles about Imhotep and the famine-stela. The half of the information IS overaged and wrong. Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 13:00, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Your wish was mah order. ;D cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 19:44, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. I guarantee you, that NONE of mah sentences is made of own-point-of-view. I merely and actually try to avoid 1:1-copying from the books. In German Wikipedia for example thou can get LOT of trouble, if yer text is copied 1:1! Thx for yer help. Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 14:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * To see the translation yourself, look here. Regards; --Nephiliskos (talk) 01:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. I hope you are not angry. I myself be not seeking for trouble, ok? But I re-wrote some passages again, now beeing much closer to the source. Regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 02:15, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi.^^ The epoche of the Ptolemy-dynasty reached from 332B.C. up to 31B.C., shortly after Cleopatra´s death. Ptolemy V. reigned from 205 - 180 B.C.. I have re-written special passages to clear up that thing. Hope, it helps. Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 12:42, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

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Svetlana Kirilovskaya PROD - Fictional?
Hi, wow, good eye! It hadn't occurred to me that the subject might be fictional. The article has no references, so it should have been a tip-off to me that a person had such a comprehensive knowledge with no references. Anyhow, again, good eye! And if you are correct, should we treat edits such as this reverted one as vandalism? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:43, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Also wanted to chime in with thanks for spotting those fictional entries. Some breaching experiement by a new account, User:Lisa lisa678, I suppose.--Milowent • hasspoken  21:58, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey and . I don't remember the exact phrasing in the fake  article, but I feel like there were multiple "beloved"s a la "Kirilovskaya was the beloved daughter of so-and-so", which I feel I deleted.  I have had my eyes on IP 108.48.144.42 for a while for some disruptive editing, and happened to notice their recent edit to Anastasia (disambiguation), which contained (unnecessary) content like "...and the beloved favorite of her paternal grandmother, Dowager Empress Marie." The "beloved" raised a few hairs, so I thought I'd bring it up here, in case either of you think it warrants a closer look. It could just be a coincidence, but I thought I'd plant a seed.  IP appears to be engaged in some shady editing anyway, which they will ultimately be blocked for. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:44, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for spotting the similarity in the language. I had a look at the IP's edit history and the IP seems to be focusing on editing American movies and cartoon characters rather than showing any interest in writing biographies as occurred in the fake Svetlana Kirilovskaya article.  I'll keep a watch on this IP just in case he/she starts moving into broader activities.  Regards --Chewings72 (talk) 04:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the feedback on the reasons for your reverting my changes. I have a strong interest in Ancient Greek and Roman history and over the years I have read many Wikipedia articles relating to the history of that period.  I thought it reasonable to seek some consistency by using Byzantium rather than Byzantion, as I can't recall too many other major articles where the Greek version is used.  However, like you, I have no strong feelings about it.  So happy to accept your reversion. (Although surely I don't need to seek consensus on trying to get some consistency in spelling of Byzantium??)
 * On the English spelling issue, I do understand the Wikipedia rules about spelling. However, I find it an issue in reading "European" articles as to what should be the correct spelling to use when articles have a mix of both American and British English. And I know there are and have been lengthy and ongoing debates over this issue, but in my opinion, it is a pity that American English does seem to be preferred if there is any uncertainty.  Regards --Chewings72 (talk) 13:03, 18 May 2014 (UTC).
 * On "Byzantium" you might be right, and I'm pretty sure that was that in the article at one time, but since someone has changed it in the past it is clear that not everyone agrees. Rather than continuous slow motion back-and-forth in the article, it needs to be decided what it is supposed to be on the talk page.  I would have reverted you just as readily if it had been the other way round.
 * On the WP:ENGVAR issue, if editors cannot agree or the article has no consistent spelling style then per WP:RETAIN we look in the edit history for the first editor to clearly use a particular spelling system and go with that.  Spinning Spark  13:54, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the helpful advice regarding which form of English to use in articles. I will follow that approach in future. --Chewings72 (talk) 01:29, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

List of Roman consuls
What was wrong with the wiki link you removed with this edit? It looks like the right person is linked. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 23:05, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The link before my change was to Gaius Servilius Structus Ahala who was a mid-5th-century BC Roman politician. According to Livy, Ahala served as magister equitum in 439 BC and is famous for saving Rome from Spurius Maelius in 439 BC by killing him with a dagger concealed under an armpit. The consul who this link should be pointing to also has the name Gaius Servilius Structus Ahala.  There is no specific Wikipedia article on him.  However, the Wikipedia Ahala disambiguation page says that this Gaius Servilius Structus Ahala was a consul in 478 BC and died in his year of office.  So based on this information it would seem that the two individuals are not the same person.  Perhaps they were father and son or even grandfather and grandson?  --Chewings72 (talk) 01:26, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Got it, thanks. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 02:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Henry III's Coronation
Hi,

Not sure if I am doing this right, but you queried a minor edit I made to the caption for the image of Henry III's coronation. I had four broad reasons for the change. 1) The image itself suggests an impressive setting and occasion. This is much more likely to be the properly organized and lavish coronation at Westminster in 1220 as opposed to the rather makeshift affair at St Peter's Abbey, Gloucester in 1216. 2) The illustrator is much more likely to have depicted the second, papally-approved, coronation conducted by the Archbishop rather than the much less impressive earlier event which made a second coronation necessary 3) The only other captions I have seen for this image either make no comment on which occasion it was or state that it was the 1220 event. 4) The current caption gives no source for it being 1217 and I think it unlikely that it was. But I'd be very happy to know of evidence to the contrary. But as this is obviously all opinion not demonstrable fact, I though it reasonable to query the current caption rather than overwrite or contradict it. AMarkworthy (talk) 14:26, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Lucas.
Why the reversion? 163.1.111.68 and 193.39.159.73 are the same editor, working on public computers. The edits are equally accurate & valid. - Regards, 163 / 193 / 194, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.39.159.73 (talk) 16:17, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Stable wikipedia
Here. Peter Damian (talk) 09:06, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

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 * : Thank you.  I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to better help keep Wikipedia history and biography articles in good shape! --Chewings72 (talk) 09:20, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Debate on Bernard Shaw's nationality.
Was he "Irish" or "British" or do we need to define his nationality in some other way? A debate on the subject, to reconsider a long-standing consensus that he was Irish, has started at talk:George Bernard Shaw. Just in case you're interested. Current comments are at "Nationality", at the foot of the page - although an earlier thread at "Irish"? may also be relevant. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 05:59, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

To ask about the source
Hi, I am Sarthak Sharma , from India. You have said that I have not provide any source to the information. As I am a new user so I don't know how to provide source. So please tell me

Thank You Sarthak Sharma (talk) 15:11, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Buddha's birthplace
I don't see any point for you to disagree about factual information of Buddha's birthplace I mentioned. Could you please sustain the change? Thanks! Singa lama (talk) 03:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * When you edit the information box for Buddha, there is a specific note which says: "Note: Gautama was a Shakya, born in the Shakya republic. The states of both Nepal and India did not exist at that time. The Shakya territory covered an area which is nowadays partly in Nepal, partly in India. Any further additions will be removed. Lumbini, Shakya Republic (according to Buddhist tradition) Do not change without getting consensus on talk page first."  I did not put the note there, so if you feel this view is incorrect please raise the matter on the Buddha article talk page.--Chewings72 (talk) 03:59, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

February 2016
Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made&#32;to John Steinbeck: you may already know about them, but you might find Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. - the WOLF  child  10:36, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. I am aware of the option of using warning messages.  I agree that the use of warning messages is an important part of keeping Wikipedia's contents to a high standard and try and stop unnecessary vandalism.  Given the vandal's subsequent behaviour, with hindsight I should have got the ball rolling with an initial warning.  :)   Regards --Chewings72 (talk) 10:53, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Eivind Astrup
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 12:01, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice. :)  Chewings72 (talk) 02:40, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors April 2016 Newsletter
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:47, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Do you want one Edit tab, or two? It's your choice
The editing interface will be changed soon. When that happens, editors who currently see two editing tabs – "Edit" and "Edit source" – will start seeing one edit tab instead. The single edit tab has been popular at other Wikipedias. When this is deployed here, you may be offered the opportunity to choose your preferred appearance and behavior the next time you click the Edit button. You will also be able to change your settings in the Editing section of Special:Preferences.

You can choose one or two edit tabs. If you chose one edit tab, then you can switch between the two editing environments by clicking the buttons in the toolbar (shown in the screenshots). See Help:VisualEditor/User guide#Switching between the visual and wikitext editors for more information and screenshots.

There is more information about this interface change at mw:VisualEditor/Single edit tab. If you have questions, suggestions, or problems to report, then please leave a note at VisualEditor/Feedback.

Whatamidoing (WMF) 19:22, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-15
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * The visual editor can generate wikicode with image options in your language. Examples of image options are "thumb" or "left". You can ask to change to options in your language in Phabricator.
 * Wiktionaries and Wikisources can now use the visual editor. It is an opt-in beta feature. It still needs development to work better with these projects.
 * ORES is using new models. Tools that use ORES' predictions can behave strangely. ORES also has a new API.
 * The visual editor now supports classical Greek characters.

Problems
 * There was a bug when you used keyboard arrows in templates in the visual editor. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 April. It will be on all wikis from 14 April (calendar).
 * The wikipedia.org portal will get many small bug fixes and improvements. Most will be for the search box and suggested results that were added in March.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topics this week are improving transclusion of templates for Parsoid and balanced templates. The meeting will be on 13 April at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 19 April and 21 April. This will start at 14:00 UTC and last for 15 to 30 minutes.

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Wikidata weekly summary #204
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.  Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 10:58, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Discussion
 * Splitting a property to limit formatter URLs to one per property: Authority_control#DE-ISIL
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Past: digikult.se
 * Upcoming: IRC office hour
 * Upcoming: FOSSCOMM
 * A week of looking at women
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Document with lots of useful links around Wikidata for workshops etc
 * Nice list of species with sounds linked on Wikidata
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: typeface/font, disjoint union of, union of, Biographical Directory of Federal Judges id, UNZ journal identifier, UNZ author identifier, Persée journal ID, Persée author ID, Projeto Excelências ID, ISSF ID, Badminton World Federation ID, CageMatch worker ID, United World Wrestling ID, UIPM ID, GOG application ID, Deezer track ID, Deezer album ID, Deezer artist ID, Encyclopaedia Metallum release ID, embed URL, Hungarian-style transcription, lowest-observed-adverse-effect level, no-observed-adverse-effect level, collage image, elected in, sectional view, median lethal concentration, minimal lethal concentration, Cycling Quotient identifier (cyclist, woman), Cycling Quotient identifier (women races), Karate Records ID, EIDR identifier, British Film Institute identifier
 * Query examples: women with most sitelinks and no image born in 1921 or later, what is depicted in artwork, most eponymous mathematicians
 * Showcase items: Iron Man (film)
 * Development
 * Lucie successfully defended her thesis about the ArticlePlaceholder. Congrats!
 * Worked more on the first version of the user interface for structured data for multimedia files
 * Worked on simplifying input of queries for people who do not know SPARQL
 * Improved localizability of the sitelink and reference counters
 * Allow input and output of localized dates with precision smaller than years (T95532 and T127820)
 * More string properties have been converted to external id ones, so that we have over 850 external id properties now
 * Experimenting with Citoid support for Wikidata to make it easier to add complete references in the way Visual Editor does it
 * Improved performance of sticky property labels (T103485)
 * Released [//github.com/wmde/DataValuesJavascript DataValues JavaScript 0.8.1]
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

The Signpost: 14 April 2016
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Books & Bytes - Issue 16
 The Wikipedia Library Books & Bytes

Issue 16, February-March 2016 by ,

 Read the full newsletter The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:16, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * New donations - science, humanities, and video resources
 * Using hashtags in edit summaries - a great way to track a project
 * A new cite archive template, a new coordinator, plus conference and Visiting Scholar updates
 * Metrics for the Wikipedia Library's last three months

Wikidata weekly summary #205
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.  <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 15:19, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Discussion
 * Closed request for comments: Reforming the property creation process, Improve bot policy for data import and data modification
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Past: office hour on IRC (log)
 * Past: ISB2016 (slides)
 * Past: WWW2016 - Freebase to Wikidata migration (slides)
 * Past: CUNY Wikidata intro (slides)
 * National Library of Wales: Our Wikidata Visiting Scholar
 * New TSRI Project Helps Researchers Build a Biomedical Knowledgebase
 * Yle <3 Wikidata - using Wikidata for concept tagging
 * Other noteworthy stuff
 * ArticlePlaceholder is going live on the first small Wikipedias on May 11th and could use your help
 * Wikimedia Commons will get the arbitrary access feature on April 26th
 * The Europeana Art History Challenge has started
 * Magnus made a handy user-script for duplicating items, for when a new item has similar property values to an existing one. See for instance, this set of edits for a second version of an artwork.
 * Listeria now has a status page
 * PetScan has now the option "Has no statements" to find items without statements for a category at Wikipedia (sample: en:Category:United States geography stubs) or an entire language version (sample: "sowiki").
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: production statistics, DNZB, PASE name, this zoological name is coordinate with, Australian Geological Provinces Database Identifier, Tate artist identifier, ResearchGate institute ID
 * Newest WikiProjects: d:Wikidata:WikiProject Museums
 * Query examples: items named after their shape, recent events, assemblies by number of seats, characters portrayed by most actors
 * Development
 * Query results for the query service are now cached by default for 60 seconds (T126730)
 * Finishing touches on easier input of geocoordinates and dates (sneak peek)
 * Finishing touches on easier manipulation of SPARQL queries (sneak peel - should go live later today)
 * Significantly reduced the write access to the database to make sure we're not frying the poor servers unnecessarily
 * Getting ArticlePlaceholder ready for first deployment
 * More work on first prototype for structured data support for Wikimedia Commons
 * Cleaned up icons for selecting rank and value type
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Tech News: 2016-16
<section begin="technews-2016-W16"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can filter Special:Log in more detail. You can filter different imports and new users.
 * You can use Telnet to read Wikimedia wikis.
 * MediaWiki wikis can handle bigger file uploads. The new limit is 4 GB.

Changes this week
 * Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 19 April and 21 April. This will start at 14:00 UTC and last for 15 to 30 minutes.
 * There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data center test.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on April 19 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is shadow namespaces. The meeting will be on 20 April at 21:30 (UTC). See how to join.

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The Signpost: 24 April 2016
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Wikidata weekly summary #206
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;"> <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 20:42, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Writing a bachelor's thesis at Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
 * Europeana Art History Challenge begins
 * TED is partnering with the Wikimedia community to add “ideas worth spreading” to Wikimedia projects
 * Wikidata meets world literature
 * Centralizing content and distributing labor: a community model for curating the very long tail of microbial genomes (conference poster)
 * Past: Wikimedia Conference
 * Other noteworthy stuff
 * SQUID: a new class and property browser for Wikidata (background info)
 * Wikidata Graph Builder now can visualize graphs with different node sizes. See for instance, types of artists with number of people, occupied with each subclass item
 * List of items that have English, German, and French sitselinks, but no statements
 * List of articles on English Wikipedia with a video where the corresponding item has no video
 * Listeria bot (the one generating lists on Wikipedia based on Wikidata data) will now begin auto-replacing simple WDQ queries with SPARQL ones
 * Magnus is looking for a designer to help with a logo for PetScan
 * Arbitrary access for Wikimedia Commons is coming as planned on the 26th
 * Wikidata surpassed English Wikipedia in items/articles using files from Wikimedia Commons
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: Danish listed buildings case ID, Models.com client ID, Race time, IAT diver ID, IAT weightlifter ID, IAT triathlete ID, FIS snowboarder ID, FIS Nordic combined skier ID, FIS ski jumper ID, FIS freestyle skier ID, FIS cross-country skier ID, FIS alpine skier ID, D-U-N-S, source of income, budget, BNE journal ID, JudoInside.com ID, ISO 4063 process number, blue-style.com ID, Wrestlingdata person id, Danish protected area ID, Skyscraper Center building complex ID, Research Papers in Economics Series handle, NUTTAB Food Identifier, AUSNUT Food Identifier, CNC film rating, EIRIN film rating, exploitation visa number, production date, Dictionary of Canadian Biography ID, New Zealand Organisms Register ID, Roller Coaster Database ID, Photographers' Identities Catalog ID, PRONOM software identifier, PRONOM file format identifier, Filmiroda rating
 * Newest WikiProjects: Olympics
 * Query examples: songs with longest melody (source), subjects with most art dedicated to them (source), versions of The Scream (source)
 * Development
 * There will be some maintenance on the query service in a few hours
 * Redesigned the rank selector as well as snak type selector icons (T129033, 283968)
 * The snak type selector icon also has a tooltip now (283945)
 * The term table header row as well as language column will now be marked as  instead of   (283395)
 * Fixed an issue with newline characters in quantity values (T110728)
 * Fixed the month-precision time parser ignoring the minus in "January -150" (T132441)
 * Continued working on diffing and patching support for new entity types (T132442)
 * Continued working on support for creating entities of new types as part of the work for Wikimedia Commons support (T132964)
 * Rolled out a little query explanation field to query.wikidata.org to help you better understand a query if you don't understand SPARQL well
 * Fixed a bug where the map wouldn't show in the visualization of a query result (T132669)
 * Fixed issues with the duplicate references gadget (T131920)
 * Added basic support for more languages to the query service (T132756)
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Tech News: 2016-17
<section begin="technews-2016-W17"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Wikimedia tested a new data center last week. This meant that the wikis could be read but not edited for 45 minutes on April 19 and for 20 minutes on April 21.
 * When the data center was tested, new edits were not shown in the recent changes log for 20 minutes. They are in the logs now. You can read more about how to find the edits.
 * Unread notifications were sometimes counted incorrectly. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * Wikimedia Commons will have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Commons. This will happen on April 26.
 * It will be easier to choose if you want to watch files you have uploaded with the upload wizard.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 26. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 27. It will be on all wikis from April 28 (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on April 26 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The "" button when you edit will be called "Publish" instead. This is to help new editors understand what it does. It already works like this on some wikis.

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The Signpost: 2 May 2016
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Wikidata weekly summary #207
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;"> <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 15:03, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Discussions
 * Wikidata, a stable source for disambiguation items?
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Find, Prioritize, and Recommend: An article recommendation system to fill knowledge gaps across Wikipedia
 * Upcoming: CSVconf
 * Upcoming: Open Tech Summit
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Commons now has arbitrary access
 * Work on ORES to make vandalism fighting easier is progressing well. "Damaging" and "goodfaith" models for Wikidata are now online.
 * Wikimind
 * New coverage maps have been created (see thumbnails)
 * We have new images you can use to indicate your website/app/service is using data from Wikidata. (2 of the files have a problem still. We're working on a fix and will reupload.) Wikidata stamp.png
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: Loop ID, sound power, 3DMet ID, locality or place, Index Hepaticarum ID, clearance, ASF KID Cave Tag Number, power consumed, net tonnage, connects with, Czech neighbourhood ID code, longest span, aerodrome reference point, Mercalli intensity scale
 * Category reports on without claims by site now link to PetScan's fast "has no statements"-option. A report for your preferred Wikipedia can be added.
 * Query examples: software with most versions (source), oldest software (source), map of U1 stations in Berlin (source)
 * Development
 * Created the first MediaInfo entity through the API (screenshot, a bit more background)
 * Substantially reduced server load for item and property displaying (T132662)
 * There are currently some issues with the order of latitude/longitude inn coordinates in the query service map visualization. It will be fixed tonight.
 * Removed unsupported  and   parameters from the   JavaScript module. This may break user JavaScript calling   (T119856).
 * Worked on new flyers for institutions that want to cooperate with Wikidata and developers wanting to use our data (will be published on Commons once they're done)
 * Moved forward with internationalization of the query service interface (not on translatewiki.net yet but being worked on)
 * Worked on making it possible to extend SPARQL queries in simplified natural language version. It will also no longer add query prefixes when editing the query. Those are not live yet.
 * Fixed a bug where admins got a blank page when trying to view deleted revisions (T132645)
 * Investigating issues with bad suggestions for properties when adding new statements (T132839)
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Tech News: 2016-18
<section begin="technews-2016-W18"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * The visual editor now works when you use Internet Explorer 9.

Problems
 * There was a security problem with the MobileFrontend extension. It showed information that had been oversighted. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * You can now see which notifications are available on a wiki on Special:DisplayNotificationsConfiguration.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 4. It will be on all wikis from May 5 (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is "PSR-6 Cache interface in Mediawiki core". The meeting will be on May 4 at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Pages could be added to new users' watchlists by default when they edit them. New users could also by default get email notifications when pages they watch are edited. This is discussed on Meta.

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Wikidata weekly summary #208
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;"> <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 15:21, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Past: OpenTechSummit Mining the knowledge of the world with Wikidata.pdf
 * Past: CSVConf
 * Past: Subscribe7 (slides)
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Our Main Page now has a section for popular items to show you what is trending on Wikidata based on several people editing an item over the last few days
 * More constraint templates now generate SPARQL links
 * Europeana Art History Challenge is still going on until the end of the month
 * Freebase has been shut down
 * Wikiversity now has access to the data on Wikidata as well
 * The 24,000,000th item was created: Q24000000
 * The ArticlePlaceholder will go live on the first Wikipedias on Wednesday (Esperanto, Haitian Creole, Neapolitan Wikipedia)
 * Quora: Why isn't Wikimedia Commons using structured data via Wikidata?
 * Newest trend on Twitter: annotating books with Wikidata statements ;-)
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: flower color, Megogo ID, via, Gazetteer of Planetary Nomenclature ID, Belgian Football ID, by-product of, by-product, cardinality of this set, Yandex.Music album ID, Sherdog ID, appears in the heritage monument list, HowLongToBeat identifier, ESR station code, P-number, mouthpiece, MathWorld identifier, PGA Tour ID, LPGA Tour ID, Australasian Pollen and Spore Atlas Code, wavelength, molar volume, vibration, goratings ID, International Sailing Federation ID, Wikidata time precision, fleet or registration number, FIVB beach volleyball player ID, Beach Volleyball Database ID, BVMC person ID
 * Query examples: most frequent occupations without a label in a given language, map of places of birth of economists (source), map of all the paintings for which we know a location with the count per location (source), [https://query.wikidata.org/#%23%20Finds%20authors%20who%20have%20published%20scientific%20articles%20together%2C%0A%23%20but%20whose%20Erd%C5%91s%20numbers%20are%20more%20than%20one%20apart.%0A%23%20These%20would%20appear%20to%20violate%20the%20definition%20of%20the%20Erd%C5%91s%20number.%0A%0ASELECT%0A%23%20Q%23s%0A%3Fpaper%0A%3Fauthor1%0A%3Fauthor2%0A%23%20title%20%28either%20from%20title%20statement%20or%20label%29%0A%28IF%28BOUND%28%3Ftitle%29%2C%20%3Ftitle%2C%20%3FpaperLabel%29%20AS%20%3Ftitle%29%0A%23%20author%20labels%20%28should%20be%20names%29%20and%20their%20Erd%C5%91s%20numbers%0A%3Fauthor1Label%0A%3Ferd%C5%91s1%0A%3Fauthor2Label%0A%3Ferd%C5%91s2%0A%23%20distance%20between%20Erd%C5%91s%20numbers%0A%3Fdistance%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%20%20%23%20paper%2C%20instance%20of%20or%20subclass%20of%20scientific%20article%3B%20also%20has%20two%20authors%0A%20%20%3Fpaper%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279*%20wd%3AQ13442814%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wdt%3AP50%20%3Fauthor1%2C%20%3Fauthor2.%0A%20%20%23%20if%20it%20has%20a%20title%2C%20we%E2%80%99ll%20grab%20that%20as%20well%2C%20but%20it%E2%80%99s%20also%20okay%20if%20there%E2%80%99s%20no%20title%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fpaper%20wdt%3AP1476%20%3Ftitle.%20%7D%0A%20%20%23%20grab%20Erd%C5%91s%20numbers%20of%20the%20two%20authors%0A%20%20%3Fauthor1%20wdt%3AP2021%20%3Ferd%C5%91s1.%0A%20%20%3Fauthor2%20wdt%3AP2021%20%3Ferd%C5%91s2.%0A%20%20%23%20introduce%20a%20new%20variable%20for%20the%20difference%20of%20the%20Erd%C5%91s%20numbers%0A%20%20BIND%28%3Ferd%C5%91s2%20-%20%3Ferd%C5%91s1%20AS%20%3Fdistance%29.%0A%20%20%23%20select%20those%20cases%20where%20the%20distance%20is%20%3E%201%0A%20%20%23%20%28note%3A%20by%20*not*%20taking%20the%20absolute%20value%20of%20the%20distance%2C%20we%20avoid%20getting%20duplicated%20cases%20because%20the%20author%20variables%20might%20be%20swapped%29%0A%20%20FILTER%28%3Fdistance%20%3E%201%29.%0A%20%20%23%20get%20*Label%20variables%20automagically%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0A%23%20sort%20by%20distance%20first%20%28descending%29%2C%20then%20by%20first%20author%2C%20then%20by%20second%20author%0AORDER%20BY%20DESC%28%3Fdistance%29%20%3Fauthor1Label%20%3Fauthor2Label scientists who have worked together but whose Erdős numbers don’t reflect that] (source), members of the French National Assembly born out of France (source), mathematical proofs (source), items that depict most things (source)
 * Development
 * Finished remaining blockers for deploying the ArticlePlaceholder on the first Wikipedias
 * More work on initial Commons prototype
 * Further work on textual representation of SPARQL queries to allow you to read/edit more of an existing query without having to touch SPARQL
 * Show label instead of URI for globes in coordinate diffs - thanks Ricordisamoa! (T110193)
 * Improve recent changes entries formatting on Wikipedia and co (T52893)
 * No longer showing a restore link for inaccessible revdel'ed entity revisions - thanks Matěj! (T55496)
 * Investigated and worked around issues with the suggestions for new statements - needs more work (T132839)
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Tech News: 2016-19
<section begin="technews-2016-W19"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Wikiversities now have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Wikiversity. This happened on May 3.
 * You can use Wikipedia GapFinder to find missing articles between languages.
 * Users are invited to try Cross-wiki Notifications on all wikis. This is the last test session before the release by default, scheduled for May 12th at 23:00 UTC.
 * You can use keyboard shortcuts to open the visual editor (meta+V) or the wikitext editor (meta+E) (on certain wikis, even if you have chosen a favorite editor).
 * Uploading files bigger than 100 megabytes on Wikimedia Commons required to opt-in in your preferences. This is not necessary anymore.
 * The UploadsLink extension is now available on Wikimedia Commons.
 * Deleting a translation unit page didn't remove the corresponding content from the translation page. This is now solved.
 * Translation suggestions based on Apertium are now available on Mediawiki.org.

Problems
 * MediaWiki 1.27.0-wmf.23 has been rolled back from Wikimedia wikis, due to a performance issue.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 10. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 11. It will be on all wikis from May 12 (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on May 10 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topics this week are Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap. The meeting will be on May 11 at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * 2017 European hackathon will happen on May 19 - 21, in Vienna (Austria).

Future changes
 * Today, in categories, a page titled "11" comes before "2". We plan to reorder that: "2" will come before "11". Please tell the developers if the change will cause problems.

Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. <section end="technews-2016-W19"/> 23:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-20
<section begin="technews-2016-W20"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Some image thumbnails now load faster on mobile. They also take up less bandwidth.

Problems
 * Last week's MediaWiki version was late on some wikis.

Changes this week
 * Special:Notifications will have "mark as read" buttons for each day. The non-JavaScript version will get it this week. A JavaScript version will come later.
 * Wikis can now locally decide what wikitext they want the signature button to produce.
 * A one-time welcome message for users will now be shown in the wikitext editor. This will include existing users.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 18. It will be on all wikis from May 19 (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topics this week are "Requirements for change propagation". The meeting will be on May 18 at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Using self-closing tags like  and   to mean   and   will not work in the future. Templates and pages that use these tags should be fixed. When Phabricator ticket T134423 is fixed these tags will parse as   and   instead. This is normal in HTML5.

Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. <section end="technews-2016-W20"/> 16:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #209
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;"> <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 16:22, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Discussions
 * A few proposals for missing properties for Wikivoyage listings have been made
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Panama Papers and Wikidata made quite a splash online
 * Occupations of persons from Panama Papers
 * Panama Papers bubble chart shows politicians are most mentioned in document leak database
 * EveryPolitician: I use Wikidata for multilingual names
 * Random item: Q14829494
 * Lots of papers relevant to Wikidata or about Wikidata haven been published at ICWSM
 * Wikidata through the Eyes of DBpedia
 * Wikidata Map May 2016 (Belarus & Uganda)
 * Geospatial search for Wikidata Query Service
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * We made a huge step for small Wikipedias and small languages online by rolling out the ArticlePlaceholder on the first 4 Wikipedias
 * Geospatial search is now up and running on the query service. You can now search for items within a geographic area.
 * The Wikidata Graph Builder has a refreshed interface with even more controls
 * Sitelinks for the new Jumiekan Patwa Wikipidia (in Jamaican Patois) are being added
 * Mapbox's Geocoder now uses Wikidata
 * PetScan now has query examples
 * d:Wikidata:Wikidata for authority control collects examples of usage of Wikidata for authority control
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: professional name (Japan), month number, highest income threshold, lowest income threshold, individual tax rate, ARKive ID, Joint Electronics Type Designation Automated System designation, totem, Online World of Wrestling ID, Internet Wrestling Database ID, corporate officer
 * Query examples: longest rivers (source), [https://query.wikidata.org/#%23defaultView%3AMap%0ASELECT%20DISTINCT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%3Fed%20%3FedLabel%20%3FauteurLabel%20(year(%3FdateCreation)%20as%20%3FAnneeCreation)%20%3FlieuLabel%20%3Fcoord%20%3Flien%20where%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP136%20wd%3AQ1164267%20.%20%20%20%20%23%20genre%20%3Ar%C3%A9cit%20de%20voyage%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ571%20.%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20nature%20%3A%20livre%20%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP50%20%3Fauteur%20.%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20%5Boption%5D%20auteur%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP571%20%3FdateCreation.%20%23%20%5Boption%5D%20date%20de%20cr%C3%A9ation%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20%20wdt%3AP840%20%3Flieu%20.%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20lieu%20de%20l%27action%0A%20%20MINUS%20%7B%3Fitem%20%20wdt%3AP840%20wd%3AQ933%7D%20%23%20(bug%20du%20P%C3%B4le%20Sud)%0A%20%20%3Flieu%20wdt%3AP625%20%3Fcoord%20.%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20coordonn%C3%A9es%20g%C3%A9ographiques%20du%20lieu%0A%20%20%0A%20%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP953%20%3Flien%20.%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20URL%2C%20texte%20int%C3%A9gral%20disponible%20sur%20%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP364%20wd%3AQ150%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20langue%20originale%20%3A%20fran%C3%A7ais%0A%20%20%7DUNION%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fed%20wdt%3AP629%20%3Fitem%20.%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20%C3%A9dition%20du%20livre%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fed%20wdt%3AP953%20%3Flien%20.%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20URL%2C%20texte%20int%C3%A9gral%20disponible%20sur%20%20%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fed%20wdt%3AP407%20wd%3AQ150%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20langue%20de%20l%27%C5%93uvre%20%3A%20fran%C3%A7ais%0A%20%20%7D%0A%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23BabelRainbow%0A%20%20%20%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22fr%2Car%2Cbe%2Cbg%2Cbn%2Cca%2Ccs%2Cda%2Cde%2Cel%2Cen%2Ces%2Cet%2Cfa%2Cfi%2Che%2Chi%2Chu%2Chy%2Cid%2Cit%2Cja%2Cjv%2Cko%2Cnb%2Cnl%2Ceo%2Cpa%2Cpl%2Cpt%2Cro%2Cru%2Csh%2Csk%2Csr%2Csv%2Csw%2Cte%2Cth%2Ctr%2Cuk%2Cyue%2Cvec%2Cvi%2Czh%22%20%0A%20%20%7D%20%0A%7D%20ORDER%20BY%20%3FdateCreation map of places mentioned in travel stories with text in French accessible online] (source), things located where the equator meets the prime meridian (source), people who acted with Brad Pitt (source), Italian mountains higher than 4000mt (source), who died by burning (source), [https://query.wikidata.org/#PREFIX%20wd%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fentity%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20wdt%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fdirect%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20p%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2F%3E%0APREFIX%20psv%3A%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fprop%2Fstatement%2Fvalue%2F%3E%0A%0A%20%20%20%23%20Query%20to%20find%20all%20musicians%20who%20have%20already%20died%20%0A%20%20%20%23%20calculate%20their%20age%20(full%20years)%20at%20death%0A%20%20%20%23%20count%20how%20many%20of%20them%20died%20at%20each%20age%0A%0A%20%20%20%20SELECT%20%3Fage%20%20(COUNT%20(DISTINCT%20%3Fa)%20AS%20%3Fcount)%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fa%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ5%20.%20%23instance%20of%20human%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fa%20wdt%3AP106%2Fwdt%3AP279%20wd%3AQ639669%20.%20%23occupation%20a%20subclass%20of%20musician%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fa%20p%3AP569%2Fpsv%3AP569%20%3Fbirth_date_node%20.%20%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fa%20p%3AP570%2Fpsv%3AP570%20%3Fdeath_date_node%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fbirth_date_node%20wikibase%3AtimeValue%20%3Fbirth_date%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fdeath_date_node%20wikibase%3AtimeValue%20%3Fdeath_date%20.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20FILTER(%3Fage%20%3E%2010%20%26%26%20%3Fage%20%3C%20100)%20.%20%23ignore%20outlyers%2C%20several%20of%20which%20are%20probably%20errors%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20BIND(%20year(%3Fdeath_date)%20-%20year(%3Fbirth_date)%20-%20if(month(%3Fdeath_date)%3Cmonth(%3Fbirth_date)%20%7C%7C%20(month(%3Fdeath_date)%3Dmonth(%3Fbirth_date)%20%26%26%20day(%3Fdeath_date)%3Cday(%3Fbirth_date))%2C1%2C0)%20as%20%3Fage%20)%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20calculate%20the%20age%2C%20precisely%20to%20the%20day%20(times%20and%20timezones%20ignored)%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%20%0A%09GROUP%20BY%20%3Fage%0A%20%20%20%20ORDER%20BY%20%3Fage age at date of death for musicians] (source), universities of main programming language authors (source), hashtags (source), Pokemon! (source)
 * Showcase items: Iron Man 2 (Q205028)
 * Development
 * Deployed the ArticlePlaceholder on the first 4 Wikipedias and worked on issues that were found
 * Incident report of issues with the query service
 * Worked on language fallback in the main header (screenshot, T98014)
 * More work on Commons prototype
 * Worked on timeline as another visualization for the query service (T135222)
 * Fixed missing message for translation for Wikibase repo - thanks Matěj! (T124766)
 * We are now generating translatable automatic comments for undo and restore operations - thanks Matěj! (T41134)
 * Fixed issue with autocompletion on the query service (T133317)
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

The Signpost: 17 May 2016
<div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:33, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #210
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;"> <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 14:50, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Discussions
 * Discussions about missing properties for Wikivoyage listings are progressing as enhancements are suggested
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Gotta catch 'em all if they are prime
 * Paper: Are Superstar Artworks also Digital Superstars? Online Popularity of Worldfamous Artworks
 * Upcoming: Wikicite (session proposals)
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * In about 2 weeks we will get the ArticlePlaceholder to more Wikipedias. Let us know if yours wants to be in.
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: produced by, Wi-Fi, Google+, wheelchair accessibility, RAN ID, incidence, Benezit ID, place of marriage, age of onset, NSC number, gait
 * Query examples: given names with most variations (source with links to graphs), papers about Wikidata (source), memes (source), cathedrals in Paris (source), highest mountains in the universe (source), [https://query.wikidata.org/#%23%20All%20Law%20%26%20Order%20episodes%20on%20Wikidata.%0A%23%20According%20to%20enwp%2C%20%E2%80%9C%5Ba%5D%20total%20of%20456%20original%20episodes%E2%80%A6%20aired%20before%20cancellation%E2%80%9D%20%28https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FList_of_Law_%2526_Order_episodes%29.%0A%23%20As%20of%20this%20writing%2C%20the%20query%20returns%20440%20results%2C%20so%20some%20episodes%20are%20missing%20%28either%20without%20item%20or%20lacking%20the%20necessary%20statements%20to%20match%20this%20query%29.%0A%0ASELECT%20%28SAMPLE%28%3FseasonNumber%29%20AS%20%3FseasonNumber%29%20%28SAMPLE%28%3FepisodeNumber%29%20AS%20%3FepisodeNumber%29%20%28SAMPLE%28%3Ftitle%29%20AS%20%3Ftitle%29%20%28MIN%28%3FpubDate%29%20AS%20%3FpubDate%29%20%3Fepisode%0AWHERE%0A%7B%0A%20%20%23%20All%20episodes%20should%20be%20instance%20of%20episode%20with%20series%20Law%20%26%20Order.%0A%20%20%3Fepisode%20wdt%3AP31%20wd%3AQ1983062%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wdt%3AP179%20wd%3AQ321423.%0A%20%20%23%20Many%20of%20them%20also%20have%20the%20season%20as%20series%2C%20so%20we%20can%20get%20episode%20and%20season%20number%20from%20qualifiers%20there.%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Fepisode%20p%3AP179%20%5B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20ps%3AP179%20%5B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%23%20the%20season%20also%20has%20series%20Law%20%26%20Order%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20p%3AP179%20%5B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20ps%3AP179%20wd%3AQ321423%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20pq%3AP1545%20%3FseasonNumber%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%5D%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%5D%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20pq%3AP1545%20%3FepisodeNumber%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%5D.%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fepisode%20wdt%3AP1476%20%3Ftitle.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fepisode%20wdt%3AP577%20%3FpubDate.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AGROUP%20BY%20%3Fepisode%20%23%20make%20sure%20we%20return%20each%20episode%20only%20once%20%E2%80%93%20a%20few%20have%20multiple%20publication%20dates%2C%20for%20example%0AORDER%20BY%20IF%28BOUND%28%3FseasonNumber%29%2Cxsd%3Ainteger%28%3FseasonNumber%29%2C1000%29%20xsd%3Ainteger%28%3FepisodeNumber%29%20%3Ftitle Law & Order episodes] (source), things/people with most children (source)
 * Development
 * Performance improvements in query service map display.
 * Fixed a focus issue in the suggester (T135008)
 * Further groundwork on Commons support
 * Fixed first issues that popped up after ArticlePlaceholder deployment based on feedback
 * Investigated and prepared fix for issue where files on Commons couldn't be deleted (T135485)
 * Finished work on language fallback in main part of header (T98014)
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
 * Contribute to a Showcase item
 * Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.

Tech News: 2016-21
<section begin="technews-2016-W21"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You now see a warning message on pages that try to use but it doesn't work because it doesn't match the page's actual title.

Problems
 * Commons had problems with server lag. This meant that it took longer time for files to turn up in categories.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 May. It will be on all wikis from 26 May (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on May 24 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg All HTTP access to Wikimedia sites and APIs will stop working. Some bots still use HTTP. They will need to use HTTPS instead. This will happen on June 12.

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Tech News: 2016-22
<section begin="technews-2016-W22"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg There is now a standard way to get the target of a redirect page from a Lua module.

Problems
 * A new way to handle rollback was introduced. It broke some tools and scripts and was reverted. This will be re-planned after review.
 * CentralNotice didn't work in some older browsers. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * When you edit a file or category page with the visual editor the rest of the page will be shown in its normal place.
 * The Translate extension will get an edit summary field.
 * A change to the  feature could break some user scripts. Contact Bawolff if the "click to insert special characters" links in the edit window break on your wiki.
 * Elasticsearch will be upgraded on Wikimedia wikis this week. This should not affect you, but if you have problems with the search function this is probably the reason.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 June. It will be on all wikis from 2 June (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. <section end="technews-2016-W22"/> 16:19, 30 May 2016 (UTC)