User talk:Chicdat/Archive 5

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AfC question
Hi Chicdat - just saw your note on the AfC request for "2024 Republican Presidential primaries." Given, at some point in the next four years, that standalone page will be created, I was wondering what standard is used to judge whether it is ready for creation at any specific time. As in, how will an editor know the time is appropriate to migrate the page from its current home on 2024 US Presidential Election to a new, standalone page?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mihir.pethe1#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation%3A_2024_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries_%28December_25%29

Thanks! --Mihir.pethe1 (talk) 20:11, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Probably sometime in late 2023. It's really much too early to tell. Relevant reading: WP:TOOSOON. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:21, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!




 Chicdat , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 21:42, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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 * Thank you! The same to you 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  13:19, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Request on 05:37:51, 4 January 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Hockeydogpizzapup
Hockeydogpizzapup (talk) 05:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC) See above. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Owen
Have you got a reason for not wishing to present the updated 1-min winds from the JTWC in the infobox? BTW You still need to work on that MH - even more so now that the JTWC has presented their BT and called it subtropical in the latter parts of its life. Jason Rees (talk) 13:56, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. I sincerely thought that the BoM was the primary TCWC in the Australian region. However, yes I will improve Owen. See that I am adding the advisories? 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  14:01, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The BoM are indeed the primary TCWC but we include the JTWC's information and their 1-min winds, as they are a notable warning centre who even used to name tropical cyclones. Yes I have seen that you have added some of the JTWC advisories in.Jason Rees (talk) 14:25, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I should note that the BoM and the majority of the RSMC/TCWC's use 10 min winds, the IMD uses 3-min winds, while the JTWC & NHC use 1-min winds.Jason Rees (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Ayana Evans - New York Times article, what else?
Hi Chicdat! Thanks for reviewing my submission on Ayana Evans. I had it reviewed by another user in the Teahouse who helped me reorganize and add more sources. They thought it merited publishing and helped me move it out from the draft to published - if this was malpractice I am sorry.

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A note on sources: Currently, the New York Times feature (which is SOLELY about the artist) is the most notable source, in addition, I have listed top tier art publications (Artnet, Hyperallergic) and a number of blogazines where the artist is mentioned. In addition to important awards and conferences, and museum exhibitions she has participated in an upcoming book and her position at Brown University.

I appreciate you reviewing this as you are specialized in women in the arts and I know that it is hard for them to met Wikipedia's criterias and want to help change that!

To the point: What specifically is missing? Should I cite her only as an artist (which sources strengthen) and not an educator? PLease give me some direction.

Thanks for your help!

ADDED: Thanks Chicdat for your swift response and feedback during this process. Cheers to more female artists on Wikipedia and wiki community members like yourself keeping submission quality high! Matriarch-info (talk) 13:30, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Matriarch-info (talk) 13:14, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I declined it because at that time it did not meet Wikipedia's guidelines. It has been nearly a month now, and since then, you have greatly improved it. I believe that now, it is ready for mainspace! 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  13:19, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  13:25, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi again, the article is being considered for deletion. Can you help make sure that doesn't happen? Or let me know what needs to be done? Thanks! Matriarch-info (talk) 00:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Thank you for the cookies, Shift674! I appreciate them. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:25, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
What a quick wikibreak. Welcome back to Wikipedia, Chicdat!

 Mario Jump  83!  02:49, 14 January 2021 (UTC) 
 * Thank you. It was supposed to be several weeks. But then when I saw the AfC backlog... 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Owen
I made a mistake. I shouldn't have recommended Jason Rees, who is tough on you regarding Cyclone Owen. I want to let you know that LightandDark2000, who I just nominated for MoTM and it is likely going to win it, is willing to give a help. He came back from WPTC inactivity recently, and he's nice. I even pinged him, but I removed that ping once I saw you taking back your statement.  Mario Jump  83!  11:39, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Didn't you see my (most recent) comment? I am. I'm going to make Owen a GA, even if it takes me a year. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:44, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You're doing it by myself without help? I want to wish you luck! I hope with your best efforts Cyclone Owen is GA! If you want any advice, just ask me or LightandDark2000, he's quite helpful so far!  Mario  Jump  83!  11:46, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Excuse me but I am not being tough on  and am trying to guide them into bringing Owen up to scratch but all I keep seeing are excuses for not taking our advice, reverting our edits and not looking at other articles for ideas on how to write it. Hell, I even rewrote a bit of the MH in order to try and encourage them.Jason Rees (talk) 11:58, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay... I hope, hope this doesn't repeat all over again.  Mario Jump  83!  12:01, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

AfC submission
Hi Chicdat, please don't randomly submit AfC drafts when they aren't complete just yet. Thank you.  Mario Jump  83!  02:14, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I wasn't trying to submit them; I was trying to clear Category:AfC submissions without an age! 🐔 Chicdat   Bawk to me!  11:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi chicdat I wanted to bawk to you about my cool article I'm working on
Hi chicdat I wanted to bawk to you about this cool article I'm working on. back in 2005 I tried to create articles sometimes. It has been a while since I did that. I couldn't believe there was not a Wikipedia article about the traditional religious song, "This World Is Not My Home." I think it would be fun to write a good one. I would love to see it grow. it'd also be fun to see if others can help it grow.

I just feel like I'd love to read a good article about it and there is a lot that is interesting about it to me. can I bawk to you about ways to make it better?
 * Sure, you're welcome to bawk to me all you want. Anyway, let's think about the page first. Most song articles at least have some sections. It might not be so much not notable as "too short, not enough references". For instance, you should add a "Lyrics" section. Readers probably do not know the lyrics. You might also find it useful to have a "History" section, which would include most of what you've already worked on. Also useful would be a "See also" section which would link to related pages. Do that, and I (or another reviewer) will be sure to accept it! 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:30, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hockeydogpizzapup (talk) 19:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC) haha great ideas. thank you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Deniz_Unay about
Hello, how are you? I have been reviewing all the instructions for about 4 months and made changes on this article. I make the necessary arrangements on the article text In the source links I added Turkey Ministry of National Education Links to national and international news agencies scientific article links non-governmental organizations url are available. I would be glad if you help me in this regard Thank you for your understanding greetings Emremer (talk) 20:14, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The article looks better now. You're welcome to resubmit it. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:06, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

The capture of Mers el Kébir being made up?????
I don't even understand where this comes from. Mers el Kébir was captured in 1505 , that article i sent in to review was directly translated from Spanish and i added a few citations to it. Please explain why a historical event which caused Spanish rule over the city for nearly 300 years which was only broken once (1708-1732) before it's reconquest (1792) is made up. Whatever748 (talk) 04:32, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'll re-review it. Maybe there was an error. I couldn't see the references. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:00, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Andre Waismann
Hello, Chikdat! Thank you for reviewing the draft for Dr. Andre Waismann I've been working on. Please advice as some of your requests are not clear to me As to the citations tags, I totally understand and I will work on adding additional sources or removing poorly confirmed info. But this message is obscure to me: "This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject." Could you please, detail, which parts are not neutral? I basically listed the facts without using any words related to emotional characteristics. Or did you mean the same information that wasn't properly cited? אור פ (talk) 10:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I can't find any at all anymore. You should resubmit it. Since technically I'm now WP:INVOLVED, I won't review it again, but I'm sure someone else will. And if it's accepted, remember this: Many of our best articles started as mere AfC drafts. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:36, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

CoVLP
Just wanted to send a note that your rejection of CoVLP was incorrect, as it is a subtopic of COVID-19 vaccine, not the same topic. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 04:54, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you. I know that one day Owen will become GA, but sometimes I become frustrated about how long it's taking. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Deniz Unay
Hi chicdat I spoke with experienced editors on the Wikipedia online support chat page. I took all necessary warnings into consideration and reviewed my source links. Creating a wikipedia page is really difficult and confusing for a living person. But if you study the article Government agencies Science article references National and International news agencies and resources Non-governmental organizations In addition, when Deniz UNAY's works in many fields are searched on google, the results Assign a lot of work and living in Turkey also signed article published nearly one in 15 languages I hope you will re-examine it taking into account all my efforts greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 11:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I've accepted it. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , you shouldn't have accepted this draft. It was highly promotional in nature, and the creator is suspected to be an undisclosed paid editor in violation of the Terms of Use of the Wikimedia Foundation. For now I've cleaned up some of the fluff. Please be mindful of such drafts in the future. Thanks.  Java Hurricane  14:31, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

hello Chicdat I wrote you about my article today Subsequently the article was accepted and approved But within a few hours I got this warning and I'm shocked I really can't believe i don't mind In a previous review that was rejected, it was called copy content. then corrected back i hope this is a mistake This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies. (February 2021) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 14:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I encourage you not to reply to this message per WP:DENY. The draft has been placed by a user with nigh-unmatched knowledge of undisclosed paid editors, by the way.  Java Hurricane  15:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Is this a true vandal? WP:DENY covers "True vandals and trolls..." This seems to me like another poor, misunderstood newbie. With careful coaching, a new editor can be turned around towards good faith. Some users are "block first, ask questions later." If I were an admin, I would use blocks sparingly and try to coach/mentor new editors - like I'm trying to do right now. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Draft is now at AfD.  Java Hurricane  04:28, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

pls help me
Hello again I went to the Wikipedia support chat page regarding the latest status of the article, unfortunately, no one helped. In addition, shortly after the article was approved, it received a warning in the form of a paid article and the content of the article began to be deleted. i don't know what to do and i'm very worried can you please help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 17:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello . Something sad has just happened. Your article is about to be deleted. There's nothing you can do. But there is one thing. You can create an article on another topic. Like, for instance, improve J Mascis + The Fog. This article. I created it. It got deleted. I moved on. And – I learned. One last thing. I am not an admin. (So many users think I am. Maybe I should run someday.) 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Hii
Hi today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniz_Unay My article has been approved I want to say the following about the article I have been working on this article for more than 4 months I took into account all rejections and also got information and support from editors in wikipedia support chat You can see developments on this subject on the Talk Page In addition, the other day, this article was rejected in the form of a copy, and this error was corrected, now the article has been unfairly deleted. There is no charge for this article I don't know how to defend myself on this issue I also added the best resources about Deniz UNAY, if you look at google searches, dozens of valuable resources can be found. Please don't be so cruel and unfair I hope you can help greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emremer (talk • contribs) 19:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * See my above comment. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Itamar Medical
Hi there, why did you rejected my new draft after I corrected all asked? this is why resubmitting is for, isnt it? Shanisun (talk) 15:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, but after enough resubmissions, it eventually comes to the point where the draft is rejected. By the time this happens, usually all hope is lost of the draft becoming an article. I can think of one rejected draft that became an article: Medical Women's Association of Nigeria.

Anyway, in May, Davidwr rejected it. You resubmitted it. I came over to your draft, and I re-rejected it. Now you have submitted it again. I will review it, but if you continue resubmitting it then you'll eventually see it here. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:28, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello Chicdat, so because it was submitted in the past, than it wont be approved? even though all is corrected and I added many many many more sources so its very "clear" this company qualifies? it doesnt seem fair... at the end the whole point is to give the right chance to a worthy articles, isnt it? what do you want me to do now? did you review it or just reject because of the past? (i'm confused so im trying to better understand). Shanisun (talk) 11:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Chicdat also, I think its importent you will know that I am the new head for this article after the person who managed it before, left. Shanisun (talk) 11:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Shanisun, you're a very eager editor, but if you really want help, you should ask at our help desk. The editors there might even be able to accept it. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Chicdat I have. This is after they help and guided me... Shanisun (talk) 11:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes. I'll send you some useful links on your talk page. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not just the sources. You also have problems with the tone. WP:NPOV comes into view. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:44, 27 January 2021 (UTC)


 * working on it right now. Thank you! Should I resubmit after or ask you first? Shanisun (talk) 12:10, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Right now, please. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I can fix it no problem.. can you point out please? My aim is simply to get it 100% best and fit. Shanisun (talk) 11:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * See my comment above, about the help desk? 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Bawk to me! I did see it and replied on it. I even chatted on live help chat and did what all asked me. Cant you please try and help since you are the reviewer? Shanisun (talk) 11:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure! I can help you all you want. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much.. im lost and I dont want past mistakes to hurt the chances... if you can please just tell me whats the problem with the tone, it will be great... regarding the sources, I fixed it for sure and added in depth sources. Shanisun (talk) 11:59, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Avoid words described in this page. That's about it. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:02, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Resubmit it right away, please. I will review it again. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:08, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I have... I can't breath :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanisun (talk • contribs) 12:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. I've accepted it. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I want to celebrate!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
 * You are very welcome. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

, can you help me understand which sources led you to accept this draft at AfC please? All of the sources I've spot-checked at random are either press releases or interviews. Which ones have you based notability on? Best, Darren-M   talk  10:06, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * None. Shanisun pressured me into accepting it. This is happening again, with Deniz Unay. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:08, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. I have sent this back to draftspace. Best, Darren-M   talk  13:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * If you are so easily pressured into accepting blatant spam drafts, Chicdat, perhaps you should not be reviewing them. CUPIDICAE💕  15:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It won't happen again. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Husky (rapper)
Hi Chicdat,

I'm a little confused why the sources provided for Husky don't qualify. I include articles directly about the subject of the article from the NYT, the Guardian, and BBC in the article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/russian-rapper-husky-faces-jail-over-gig-on-car-roof
 * Looking back at this link - seems like it might be broken, but here's another link at The Guardian connected to it that vouches for that (something I can fix in the draft too): https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2018/nov/22/moment-russian-rapper-husky-arrested-impromptu-car-roof-gig-video — Preceding unsigned comment added by Бундист (talk • contribs) 19:00, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-46292459

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/23/world/europe/russia-rapper-husky-prison.html

As well as articles from well-known, popular, and independent Russian language news sources (Meduza and Kommersant) on the artist's overall trajectory in the country: https://meduza.io/feature/2017/02/03/pochemu-haski-novaya-bolshaya-zvezda-rossiyskogo-hip-hopa

https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4511586

I would love some clarification about why these don't qualify.

Бундист (talk) 18:42, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * A few of these sources aren't actually super reliable. I don't mean that they're terrible, but that they need other sources to support them. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Can you elaborate on this? The BBC, the Guardian, and the NYT are all listed as reliable sources on Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. How are these not reliable - what standard are you using? Бундист (talk) 17:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I am with Бундист in here. These are clear RS.  Mario Jump  83!  03:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

AWB
It looks like you're doing a lot of semi-automated stuff. You may try to request AWB permissions here: Requests for permissions/AutoWikiBrowser. Note that this is not linked to the adoptee page, just a suggestion.  Mario Jump  83!  01:45, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will apply. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:01, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Owen
While Owen maybe an early December tropical cyclone, I do not really regard it as unusual, as it's well within the cyclone season for that region. I also note that we have had Liua, Owen, Rita and Yasa form within the Coral Sea over the last few years before late December which is why I removed it as a trivial fact.Jason Rees (talk) 14:59, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see your point. Three consecutive seasons kind of breaks the "rare" part. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:03, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Tali Rubinstein
Hello Chicdat,

Thank you very much for taking the time to review Draft:Tali Rubinstein! I have been working on getting more secondary sources, and feel that it's in a pretty good place now and was hoping to get some feedback. Do you think it's in a good enough place now to resubmit? Or do you think it needs more work? I was comparing it to a similar page ([]) and it looks like the sources are as good if not better than this published article. Thanks again! Haveitall07 (talk) 06:06, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , yes! You can resubmit.  Mario Jump  83!  07:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you! Haveitall07 (talk) 07:31, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Kuhl irrigation (Himachal Pradesh)
Hi, I've accepted the draft Kuhl irrigation (Himachal Pradesh). You had previously declined it as lacking reliable sources, which is strange, as the sourcing was excellent as far as I could see. If there's anything in particular that you don't find reliable there, you can tag it with better source. Thanks! – Uanfala (talk) 21:35, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm new to reviewing; currently I'm taking a break from it. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

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Your decline of Roger Baxter-Jones
Hi Chicdat, thanks for reviewing my draft of Roger Baxter-Jones. I have reasonable experience in creating pages and am quite active on AfD discussions so am familiar with what is required, so I was surprised that you declined to publish the page, given it squarely satisfies WP:GNG. I appreciate the workload you'll be under so understand why you provided only a template explanation for your reasons, but the draft indeed includes 5 "significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject", including a scholarship in his name at one of the world's most reputable (ie notable) mountaineering associations. The subject existed prior to the internet so sources are limited but those cited are completely satisfactory. Could I ask you to please reconsider or provide more reasoning? Thanks in advance, Cabrils (talk) 04:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Please find another reviewer. For the time, I am not reviewing AfC submissions. Thanks, 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:56, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Precious
You are recipient no. 2559 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * What? Thank you so much! 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:23, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind it comes from the cabal of the outcast. It's so rare that our poor admins get praise, - you stand out! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm an unofficial member of WikiProject Giving Users Barnstars Because They Deserve Them. Admins deserve barnstars because without them, Wikipedia wouldn't exist, and couldn't exist. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree. You see I am also an unofficial member of that group. Today's precious went again to someone who gave praise. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That's right. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:08, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Thoughts
I know I pinged you to this discussion, but since I didn't want to get too off-topic there I just thought I'd say that if you see obvious voting in the "wrong" section, it's generally better/easier to just move it to the correct section rather than essentially striking their vote (or as a third option, ping the user on the talk page and let them know they need to move it). Primefac (talk) 12:35, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Right after this, the user added another support to the correct place, but did not remove his/her misplaced support. Therefore, I removed it. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:37, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Timeline of the 2021 Pacific hurricane season


A tag has been placed on Timeline of the 2021 Pacific hurricane season requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Blablubbs&#124;talk 11:52, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't understand this. I've changed the redirect target, . 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:53, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That works too. :) Blablubbs&#124;talk 11:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Desysop Policy (2021)
It is rare indeed to find a person willing to reconsider their position on important topics. Given the conversation and this, I was quite astonished. People just don't do that. Kudos to you for having an open mind willing to consider contrary views! --Hammersoft (talk) 12:19, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I reconsidered after reading hundreds of comments, RfA reform, etc. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) ...and I posted this out of sequence, not seeing the barnstar you left on my talk page :) Thank you! I'm always reminded that text based communications are severely limited. If I could write well, I would be a famous author, but alas! I try. It's the best I can do :) --Hammersoft (talk) 12:22, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I understand. 🐔 Chicdat   Bawk to me!  12:23, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Goni vs Yasa
You state that Goni was more intense than Yasa, except offically per the JMA and FMS it wasnt and that's what we have to use on Wiki.Jason Rees (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  14:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikibreak Enforcer
You know why I edited your user talk page while my Wikibreak Enforcer is still on - I deactivated JavaScript. This is the trick that Hurricane Noah used to revert his Wikibreak Enforcer. I am not going to do so, as I am planning to continue my wikibreak. Regarding why I decided to log in on this day, this is because I want to help BrownieKing to complete the Draft:Typhoon Vernon (1993), as I did with Cyclone Sarai. That's just a little tip I can tell you about if you happen to be on a wikibreak and decided to go off from wikibreak earlier. I'm going to activate my JavaScript and logging out once more. By the way, you can complete the adopt page without me. When I come back in May 1, I will check. Thanks,  Mario Jump  83!  11:24, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, I never knew that before. Going back to work on List of Atlantic tropical storms now. --🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

RFCs
RFCs run for 30 days, after which time the bot removes the rfc. An uninvolved editor still has to formally close the discussion, but the listing itself is removed. In other words, please don't edit war with the bot! More information is at WP:RFC. Primefac (talk) 12:11, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * And this RfC ran for 30 days. Okay now, an edit war is now 1 revert. Yes, yes, yes... 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It wasn't a chastisement, I was mainly worried that you would continue reverting the bot and wanted to explain why you shouldn't. Primefac (talk) 16:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Amendments
I appreciate the work in shortening shortdescs, but is "Amendment to the U.S. Constitution" in any way helpful as a description of an article named (for example) "Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution‎"? --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 15:44, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright - no. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  20:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Asking for help with the draft of an article you previously declined
Greetings, !

Previously you declined the draft of an article I suggested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Qrator.Radar. I did my best to re-write the draft in a neutral style, living out everything that could be even slightly considered a peacock language you referred to. Once again, I revised the sources and made sure only independent, reliable, and public sources are present in the references. If, in your opinion, the current draft of an article is still not good enough, could you please help me with making it more encyclopedic or at least tell me how I could try again to make it better to comply with the Wikipedia standards and rules.

Thank you for your time and effort, Shapelez (talk) 11:08, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Did you not see the notice at the top of my talk page? Please contact another reviewer. 🐔 Chicdat   Bawk to me!  11:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for saying that my edits have gotten better! I know that they have, and that I'm a lot more experienced now than when L235 revoked page mover and rollback. (But I still don't have page mover and rollback.) And I display service awards, but I don't want to show them off, so I hide them and use to make them look less showy. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:38, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, giving you a ping just so you respond. 🐔 Chicdat   Bawk to me!  10:38, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 March 2021
 * Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:43, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for what you said for RexxS --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm absolutely sure that RexxS wouldn't have disappeared if only ArbCom wasn't so harsh. Poor RexxS, I hope one day he comes back, but if he doesn't, I wish him good look in the real, real world. I'm almost crying... the best editors don't realize that we've lost one of our best editors. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:04, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I am as absolutely sure that he left before arbcom did anything, harsh or not. See the date when missing began. Arbcom looks detrimental to the interests of the project, in all cases I looked - which admittedly is few, because it's always such a waste of time. I didn't look at this one, because he was gone before it started. I didn't look at Flyer's but saw her retirement statement. Boing! described it best. He - and other best editors (Bish, Giano ...) do realize. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That's even worse, he left before anything even happened. The mere fact of having an Arbcom case drove him out of Wikipedia. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That's too easy. Not "an arbcom case", but that one, which Boing! (after you, you may have missed that), and  (before, and that whole page is worth studying). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I never saw those diffs before. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I've been to arbitration, and then I had to look at every bit (including that an arb suggested a user needed to be banned, citing a diff where that user uncollapsed an infobox and placed it in the normal position, and don't think that's an April fool, - and - to make things worse - none of his colleagues objected, his vote made the majority for the banning, and I spent an awful night. Next morning, another arb had changed his vote, saying he didn't want a prolific content editor banned with his vote). I will never do that again: in case I get called to arbitration, I'll not participate. Life is too short. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:16, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Shortdesc helper
I have turned it off. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 10:09, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I have turned it back on. I care too much about keeping my mainspace total at 60%. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you. That's the first barnstar I've got for my chicken work. Mostly WikiGnomish, but I appreciate your kindness. Adding that to my (former) userpage now... 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Short descriptions
Hi, thanks for your efforts to add short descriptions to articles that are missing them. I don't know if you've seen the discussion here? Based on the responses so far, you might want to avoid using the word "disambiguation", as it's felt not to be well understood outside the Wikipedia editor community, and hence not appropriate as a short description.

A separate issue is that surname pages are not considered to be dabs at all, and definitely shouldn't have a short description that describes them as such. Surname pages mostly have the short description "Surname list" already, which is created automatically from the Surname template. You can see it if you're using the Shortdesc helper gadget. The existing wording is fine and doesn't need to be changed. An editor has reverted many of your recent changes on that basis, so you should stop work on that particular task. Regards, MichaelMaggs (talk) 14:05, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. (When I came up today and saw eighty-two notifications, I was thinking, have I been blocked or ANI'd or something?) Yes, I'm almost always bold in my edits, which leads to a lot of people reverting me. I've enabled shortdesc helper - and made three thousand edits with it - so I see that it was automatically added, but is it okay if I change it to 'Wikipedia list article'? 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:12, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , not for surname articles, as the consensus seems to be that the existing default of "Surname list" is best - which it what it already says in most cases based on the Surname template.
 * If you wanted to work on adding SDs to articles (and I strongly recommend it!) you could try this Petscan search for level 5 vital articles that are missing a SD. Where it says "Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Mathematics", change "Mathematics" to any other section listed at Vital articles/Level/5 that interests you.
 * If you're looking at a page with no Wikipedia short description, the Short description helper will show you instead the Wikidata version. You can tell it's Wikidata not Wikipedia as it gives you an "Import" option next to it. If that looks OK you can just import it, but often the text can be improved, in which case use "Edit and import". See WP:HOWTOSD for advice on writing a good SD. The best place to ask/discuss ideas is at the Wikiproject Short descriptions talk page. Thanks for working in this area! MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:16, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I once tried that petscan. It was too enormous for it to load, but I can try again. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:17, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * And I succeeded! I have to say, you are a lot better than SuggestBot. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:35, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks! Let me know if I can help as you work through. We are 51.789 % complete, according to the progress bar. MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I purged it, and now it's 51.79%. I think I might have added that 0.001 percent. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks! Let me know if I can help as you work through. We are 51.789 % complete, according to the progress bar. MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I purged it, and now it's 51.79%. I think I might have added that 0.001 percent. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Short descriptions on math articles
You have added the incorrect short description "Type of graph theory" to a number of graph theory articles. I don't think that's what you meant to add; can you please fix? -Apocheir (talk) 23:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I have fixed them all. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

flooding the edit request queue
Chichdat, I have no idea why you have filed so many edit requests such as the one at User talk:BrandonALF/Whatlinkshere.js but these are not needed and are disruptive to the edit request process. Please revert your changes as you are polluting the request queue. 1) Almost all of these are other editor's personal pages - if you want to talk about that page bring it up with the page owner. 2) Your requests are incomplete as they don't specify what is needed to be done. 3) These are not necessary to improve the encyclopedia. — xaosflux  Talk 13:59, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Additionally looking at pages such as User:C5d1582c40616e3581c5f59c8ee11145c5bf6b64bfd6cb687842ecc058225e43/common.css - editing the page isn't even the "best" way to deal with this, assuming it needs to be done at all - the page should be speedy deleted; in such a case you can tag the talk page for speedy delete and note it is for the main page - we have substantially more volunteers that can process the speedy deletion queue than the interface request queue. — xaosflux  Talk 14:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright. I'm sorry for this, I didn't know it was wrong. Please speedy delete these double-redirect css/js/json pages. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  14:54, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I nuked all of your requests to clear the protected requests queue, if you need to nominate some for speedy you can do so again (having lots of things in the speedy delete queue isn't an issue). — xaosflux  Talk 17:55, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Cyclone Owen
Hey Chicdat, I noticed your work on Cyclone Owen and I see the GA is taking a long time. I'm currently wrapping up Tropical Storm Hernan (2020) for one, but as soon as I'm done I could help out on improving or expanding the page if you'd like. JoeMT615 (talk) 13:01, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for offering to help with Owen! MarioJump83 (I'm sure you've heard of them, you practically can't be part of the project without doing so) mostly finished up Cyclone Owen for me, but there still are some things I have to fix. If you'd really like to help, a) Talk:Cyclone Owen could be a nice read, as well as giving you some ideas to start off on, and b) Whether we succeed or not, you can count on a Teamwork Barnstar on your talk page afterwards. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:03, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course, I'm glad to help. I read through most of the talk page (yikes) and then took a look at the to-do section. I've restructured and added to the lead, and will help when I can with the rest. I think once those tasks you listed are done (and we double check the grammar), we should be good to go on re-nominating it for GA. JoeMT615 (talk) 19:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I like how you use "we" to refer to our making Owen a GA. Anyway, did you read the last section? Please be cautious about creating Talk:Cyclone Owen/GA3 just yet, since (as you read) Jason Rees does NOT want me to be another WP:IDHT user. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Of course, I'm just saying we should finish those tasks is all, and we could always get a different reviewer once everything's done to make sure the article's definitely ready and to ensure Jason doesn't think we're bludgeoning it. And of course I'll use "we", I don't want to take sole credit for anything. JoeMT615 (talk) 16:30, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
 * What have we done? We have fixed the grammar (that's you), we have expanded the sections (that's MarioJump83), we have created the article itself, (that's me), and we will get the article to GA (that's all of us). 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:22, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Your U2 nominations
Hi Chicdat. I declined all of your recent U2 nominations because they were all redirects pointing to a renamed user's new username. U2 explicitly does not include redirects pointing to a renamed user's new username. There is no need to delete these pages. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 13:38, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
 * What deletion criterion would apply to these pages, then? 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  09:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * None. — k6ka  🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 12:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay. I'll stop trying to get them deleted as part of clearing Special:DoubleRedirects. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:42, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you very much. Soon I will be finished with that adopting. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:00, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank You
, I am back from the edge of oblivion. I want to thank you for your endorsement. It was very kind of you, and very much appreciated. Cheers! NonhumanAnimalAutonomy (talk) 11:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You are so very welcome. Hang on... 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:00, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Casque (anatomy)
Hi! I see that the casque (anatomy) article has apparently been deleted. I find it extraordinary that nobody thought to post a courtesy message at WP:BIRD letting us know that this article was up for deletion. Can you please point me to the deletion discussion? I'm curious to see the reasoning behind the delete. Thanks. MeegsC (talk) 11:18, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It was never an article, it looks like. Casque (anatomy) does not show any deletion log. I believe this is why WP:BIRD was not notified. Thank you for letting me know. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:22, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I see. So it's actually a page to be created, which explains the lack of a deletion message. There was no deletion! So now I have another question. Why are you unlinking? Please read WP:Red link. MeegsC (talk) 11:25, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought it had been deleted. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:25, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ The next step is to create the article on it. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  11:31, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks Chicdat! MeegsC (talk) 11:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * And it's started: casque (anatomy). Lots more to come. ;) MeegsC (talk) 12:05, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, thank you for creating it. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  12:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I reverted your changes on the section headers. Those are pretty standard headers; see the GA article Trinidad euphonia, for example. For one thing, the things you had listed as "External links" were actually the article's references. External links are different. (See WP:External links for more info.) MeegsC (talk) 16:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, now I know. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me!  10:26, 22 April 2021 (UTC)