User talk:Chicosbailbonds

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Regarding your edit 6/4/2017 at Kennedy High School
Hi! Even if somehow a photo could be a source (and anyone with any knowledge of digital photo editing software should easily understand why it cannot), linking to photo on a site like imgur.com is entirety verboten. Any picture shot after 1923 in the US is assumed to be copyrighted lacking specific information that it isn't. We never ever link to copyright violating content. John from Idegon (talk) 20:24, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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Hopefully I'm doing this right, I haven't been working on Wikipedia for years until recently. I appreciate the input from you, really do. Need some guidance on the Kennedy High school sports section. I've linked to the actual CIF records book to list our championships, but you undid those edits. I'm really not sure what to do at this point. There are other high schools that have awards listed, etc, with no sourcing at all. I'm trying to link to them, but many of our championships happened in the 1980's and 1990's. Help. Suggestions? Thank you.
 * Please don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes. Something that has been changing in Wikipedia over the 5 years I've been here is an increasing realization that Wikipedia can never be a reliable source due to its dynamic nature, but at the same time it is becoming the world's choice of sources. So to insure that there is something usable for all major facts, there is a greater insistence on usable sources. For school articles, we insist that a reference that leads directly to the source info (such as specific enough info on written sources that a person can go directly to the page the info is on in it, and linking to the exact page on a website the info is found). The source you listed is a website. You cited the front page, whereas there were separate clickable links for each season and presumably under that each sport. If the website doesn't go back far enough, I'm certain some newspaper covered the championship game. Perhaps one is indexed in Google's newspaper archive or one is in the local library. Hope this is helpful. It's not necessarily easy. John from Idegon (talk) 23:18, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about the not signing, again appreciate the response. If I link to CIF but on that exact record book page to validate each and every one of those championships, will that do the trick? Ultimately they are the governing body of high school sports in California. Unfortunately the newspapers that covered high school sports back then don't even exist, as we all know newspapers have died. This is unfortunate in my opinion because these are all legitimate championships. I'll see what else I can come up with as an alternative, but I do appreciate your quick responses. Chicosbailbonds (talk) 23:53, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

OK, trying again. I updated the championships with references. I found some articles for about 70% of the listings. Even in some cases where the article just lists the champions in past years, or where an article interviews the head coach and they reference the CIF title from years prior. There are some where articles exist in Google, but the links are broken at the newspaper so I instead linked those to CIF (governing body), but I linked them to the sports specific page so the PDF is much shorter to browse through. I'm hopeful this does the trick as these are all legitimate championships and confirmed by California Interscholastic Federation. Many thanks again. Chicosbailbonds (talk) 02:55, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Adding references can be easy
Hello! Here's how to add references from reliable sources for the content you add to Wikipedia. This helps maintain the Wikipedia policy of verifiability.

Adding well formatted references is actually quite easy:
 * 1) While editing any article or a wikipage, on the top of the edit window you will see a toolbar which says "Cite". Click on it.
 * 2) Then click on "Templates".
 * 3) Choose the most appropriate template and fill in as many details as you can. This will add a well formatted reference that is helpful in case the web URL (or "website link") becomes inactive in the future.
 * 4) Click on Preview when you're done filling out the 'Cite (web/news/book/journal)' to make sure that the reference is correct.
 * 5) Click on Insert to insert the reference into your editing window content.
 * 6) Click on Show preview to Preview all your editing changes.
 * Before clicking on Save page, check that a References header  ==References==  is near the end of the article.
 * And check that    is directly underneath that header.
 * 7.Click on Save page. ...and you've just added a complete reference to a Wikipedia article.

You can read more about this on Help:Edit toolbar or see this video File:RefTools.ogv.

Hope this helps, --John from Idegon (talk) 21:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


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