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Madison: To Be Peer Review '''I was planning on adding to the fashion section of the corset page. During these periods of time, corsets were not just used to shape their figure, but more as a social standard. The standard shape of a women was curvy, and the only way to achieve this caliber women were forced to wear the corset.

The way beauty was represented while wearing a corset was known as "line of beauty", which was known as the figure of a women joints are separated and then connected from the corset itself. Madison

Since the stomach is completely shrunk while wearing a corset, it is known that this would keep their appetite under control while having their busts out creating the perfect women illusion. This was more commonly found in the earlier nineteenth century, when corsets had more of a fashion role, than a standardized one.

I also wanted to add a bit to the medical section of the article because there was little information on it. Although corsets are made to create that womanly, curvy figure, it can lead to severe health issues which lead to many disagreeing with the idea of wearing one. It was said that it is not safe for circulation, especially around the heart and stomach. It was also said that this created digestion issues because it would not allow for women to have a proper appetite due to the squeezing on the stomach. Another important fact during the early nineteenth century was found with childbirth and maintaining energy throughout pregnancy. More women struggled with maintaining energy after they had worn corsets for so long because there bodies were not adjusted.''' Madisonappel (talk) 14:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)Madison AppelMadisonappel (talk) 14:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

http://www.jstor.org.proxyiub.uits.iu.edu/stable/pdf/466067.pdf?refreqid=search%3Ade55ed801dd416baa58c3aaeb2b9a260 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madisonappel (talk • contribs) 02:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

The Evil Effects Of The CorsetChilogan (talk) 14:21, 6 February 2018 (UTC) http://www.jstor.org/stable/20275346

Article evaluation
- Is everything in the article relevant to the article topic? Is there anything that distracted you? Since this article was a biography of the Kray twins, the article was split into different topics about their life. As far as each topic, the author's information did not distract me as a reader. Each topic was well written out.

- Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position? Though the Kray twins were murders, drug dealers, gangsters, and etc. The author was very unbiased. They were able to give both the rough and the soft sides of the twins.

- Are there viewpoints that are overrepresented, or underrepresented? With the topics the author chose to write about on the twins, I felt they could use a little more information. For example, with the each topic about the twins, the author should have provided its readers with more “awe” moments. The twins’ lives were adventurous and dangerous and I believe the author should have highlighted that more. Overall, I would not say the author's viewpoints are underrepresented, but they could use some work.

- Check a few citations. Do the links work? Does the source support the claims in the article? Yes, the links that I checked do work and are supportive of the author’s writing over the twins.

- Is each fact referenced with an appropriate, reliable reference? Where does the information come from? Are these neutral sources? If biased, is that bias noted? No, the author did not use a source along with their facts. Throughout the article, it was a lot of “[citation needed]” spaces. Most of the author’s information comes from documentaries, articles, and books over the twins. I believe these sources are neutral. They are just giving information about the twins’ lives or just a specific thing about the twins (night clubs, enemies, etc.).

- Is any information out of date? Is anything missing that could be added? Since the twins died and their lifetime ranged from the 1930s-1990s, I believe the articles were written with up to date information about the them. As was stated before, the only thing missing in the article is more of those “awe” moments concerning the twins and their lives.

- Check out the Talk page of the article. What kinds of conversations, if any, are going on behind the scenes about how to represent this topic? Other authors are furious about this author not citing their facts. They believe the facts are just flying out of nowhere which makes the article weak. There is also an argument about whether or not both twins are gay. In addition, other authors are making minor changes such as the twins’ birthday and the names of their different clubs.

- How is the article rated? Is it a part of any WikiProjects? The article is rated as a C-class. This article is apart of the WikiProject Biography, London, LGBT studies, Criminal Biography, British crime, and Organized crime.

- How does the way Wikipedia discusses this topic differ from the way we've talked about it in class? We did not discuss this in class yet; however, a WikiProject is a group of people who wants to come together as contributors to amend Wikipedia.

- Choose at least 1 question relevant to the article you're evaluating and leave your evaluation on the article's Talk page, minimum three sentences. Be sure to sign your feedback with four tildes — Chilogan (talk) 14:44, 6 February 2018 (UTC). What sources were used to support the reasoning for the twins' criminal behavior? After looking on the talk page, I noticed that Ronnie may have killed his ex-wife. I believe more information concerning the twins' behavior is extremely important to include in this article. In my opinion, the article is good; however, the information about the twins' criminal behavior is not being supported.

My Article Edit
So, for my article I looked at the page for the horror film Teeth. It is about a girl who discovers she has vagina dentata and I edited the article to discuss the production of the film and how it was original meant to be a dark comedy, but was later re-edited to be a straight horror film. I also included how the producer of the film is trying to create a tv series based on the film, but is having difficulty due to the nature of the material at hand.

Corset Update
I plan to update the medical section of the corset article. There are only a few sentences that explain the medical side of the corset and I believe it should be more detailed. This section does not tell the reader much about this topic. A new section that I would add to this article would be how the fabric and pattern of the corset evolved over time. After doing research, I noticed that back when the corset was first being worn they were only neutral colors. Today, corsets are made with bright colors, lace, patterns, and etc.

My ideas would be to inform readers how the corset evolved over time. I can add some sort of timeline that allows readers to visually see the evolution of the corset and how they are viewed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chilogan (talk • contribs) 05:09, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

To Be Peer Reviewed
Tightlacing has also become a staple in the BDSM community, with corset wears wearing them so tightly it can sometimes affects their breathing patterns. Tightlacing done incorrectly can also lead to breathing troubles and can cause unconsciousness.

Many fetish corsets are designed for BDSM acts and are not typically worn in historical reenactments. These corsets are usually designed for tightlacing, an act that historical corsets were not designed for.MaxBaker1123 (talk) 02:17, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

To Be Peer Reviewed (Chiara Logan)
I believe a great addition to the corset article would be adding when plus size corsets came into the fashion industry. Overtime, plus size fashion has improved. More "sexy" outfits were added to designer collections to boost the confidence of bigger women. Though corsets are seen as to make the torso smaller, I believe that corsets in regards to plus women are just a fashion statement. Corsets as a fashion statement for plus women lets society know that they can sexy and be a plus size woman. Chilogan (talk) 05:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

In Response to Madison (Peer Review)
I added a section to the actual corset article about neck corsets. Madison stated that she would add more to the medical section of the corset article and I believe that neck corsets would be a perfect fit! The purpose of the neck corset is to better one's posture by weakening the bands in the neck. Chilogan (talk) 05:29, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

In Response To Chi (Peer Review)
I also believe that the section Chi is going to add to will fit perfectly into the corset article. In response to you Chi about the medical section, I think that would be really interesting to add into it. Madisonappel (talk) 14:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)Madison AppelMadisonappel (talk) 14:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

In Response To Max (Peer Review)
I really like what Max is going to add to the corset article. I feel that this also affected the medical section and some of his points could be put into that. Max's other ideas could also fit more into the history of the corset and that would be interesting to add to that as well. Madisonappel (talk) 14:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)Madison AppelMadisonappel (talk) 14:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)