User talk:ChinaHistorian

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Edit warring
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 21:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:Rebiya-use-old-fake-photo.jpg
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Your recent edits
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Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 22:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Rebiya Kadeer and July 2009 Ürümqi riots
I'm sorry if I have reverted you unfairly, I feel I may have made a great mistake there. I do not want to become involved in editing the article. However, I must ask you not to use the non-free image- a non-free image about a current press story like that is not acceptable. If you stop using/linking to the image (and any other images about this story), then I will happily leave your edits alone. Again, apologies, and I hope we can come to some agreement. Feel free to message me on my talk page. J Milburn (talk) 23:44, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not awfully concerned about what the photo has been used for- that is certainly worth discussing in the article. However, at this time, as a current press image, the image should not be used on Wikipedia. Please remember that our non-free content guidelines are far stricter than US law. J Milburn (talk) 23:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The guideline provides the following exception on photos: "A photo from a press agency (e.g. AP), unless the photo itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article." This is the situation where the photo itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article. Namely, Rebiya Kadeer showed that photo on TV, holding it in her hands, and made various statements about it. The controversy is about that photo, and the relevant portion of the ARTICLE was about the origin of the photo. Without the picture, it is hard to see what she was talking about. ChinaHistorian (talk) 00:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Fuzbaby (talk) 00:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Useless editor
Where did you get this? What makes you think I am from Western China? As I have told many editors before, I am a boring white American, I come from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and have never been to Western China. I speak a few words of Uyghur and read the alphabet--does that make me a Uyghur?

I am sick of your unfounded, bullshit accusations against every editor who does not agree with you. You are a useless editor, and the worst kind of troll. It is probably too late for you to keep from getting blocked, but if you are not blocked I strongly suggest you refrain from hurling disruptive accusations at other editors. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 00:34, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Rjanag, your foul language showed your true white trash mentality. You being white prove more of your bias and hideous intent. Keep your effort in trying to hide the truth. If you can certainly call up your gang to block people from Wikipedia, it only serves as proof of your fear of the truth. ChinaHistorian (talk) 00:41, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * ChinaHistorian, I can clearly see your stance in this incident. However Wikipedia is not a place for nationalists to express their sentiments and feelings. Wikipedia is a reference to everyone and therefore must be as neutral as possible (see WP:NPOV). Personal attacks and attempts to investigate other's privacy are not acceptable in Wikipedia community. If you want to express your feelings about the incident, forums around the internet may be a better place to do so. --98.154.26.247 (talk) 01:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, people, I am only trying to get the facts out. What are you afraid of? That photo is certainly of great significance, that is exactly why people like Rjanag wants to hide it, at least from Wikipedia. This is a good exercise to show the length the white folks are willing to go to impose the untruth. I have all the time and patience to deal with such people. ChinaHistorian (talk) 01:32, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The truth is already there, none of us have tried to remove the text explaining the photo controversy and explicitly saying that Kadeer used an old photo. We are only removing the image because it violates copyright and fair-use guidelines, not out of attempt to "hide" something (if we wanted to hide something, we would remove the text as well). You can keep trying to insult editors and make distractions all you want, but you are just making yourself look more and more foolish. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 01:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The image falls into the fair-use category of the copyright exceptions. As much as you want to be a copyright cop, I have explained this to the other guy. Please read the guidelines. It says "A photo from a press agency (e.g. AP), unless the photo itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article" is unacceptable. This provides an exception to the copy restriction. It makes sense, because HOW we can discuss the photo without seeing it. By spending so much effort to hide this very key controversial photo, you make yourself look very suspicious, either as the sympathizer of the terrorists or something worse. ChinaHistorian (talk) 01:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I have said this many times, but here we go again: Your image is not an image of the photo in question. Your image is an image of a YouTube page that has an image of an AlJazeera interview that has an image of the photo. Thus, you are dealing with at least three copyrights, not one. And you still have not addressed why the photo itself is necessary when the only commentary in the article is about how Kadeer misused the photo, not what exactly what's in the photo. (Just seeing the photo doesn't give most readers extra information on what riot it was of; most readers can't tell the difference anyway.) r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 01:58, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:July 2009 Ürümqi riots‎
Please do not attack other editors, which you did here: Talk:July 2009 Ürümqi riots‎. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Fuzbaby (talk) 00:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2009
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Editing
Re this: the edit has been removed numerous times, by many editors other than me, because it's not directly relevant to this article or this part of that article; all that information is freely available for viewing in the World Uyghur Congress article. Because no direct connection has been proven yet between the WUC and the riots (there is no proof that they caused the riots), there is no point giving so much unnecessary detail about WUC in the riots article. If you want this stuff to be included, start a discussion at the article's talk page, do not edit war.

I don't think I need to remind you that you have been a highly disruptive user in the past and no one will hesitate to block you if you start up again. That doesn't just refer to edit warring; it also refers to insulting other editors. If you start accusing editors of being terrorist sympathizers, or of "hiding" information (how's it hiding if we're leaving the information in other articles, or presenting valid reasons for why it should be removed?) you will be blocked without hesitation. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 19:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

New image upload
I raised a question at SoWhy's talkpage, here, about your new image. Please respond there if you have a moment. <b class="Unicode">r ʨ anaɢ</b> talk/contribs 01:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * is your sock.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

expressions
please watch your language when editing wikipedia. thank you. Seb az86556 (talk) 20:19, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

please email me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohconfucius (talk • contribs) 09:49, 7 August 2009
 * For what? Seb az86556 (talk) 16:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * @Seb : I think this was directed at ChinaHistorian, not you. <b class="Unicode">r ʨ anaɢ</b> talk/contribs 16:54, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, nevermind, signature was too small... :P Seb az86556 (talk) 17:54, 7 August 2009 (UTC)