User talk:Chip123456/Archive 1

April 2012
Hi Chip, I've added more references to Herne Hill railway station following your review. Tommy20000 (talk) 18:17, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added a reference to the transport links section.Tommy20000 (talk) 20:05, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing and approving the article, much appreciated. Now to get FA status before the 150th anniversary in August! Tommy20000 (talk) 10:33, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure, if you carry on the way you are with improving the article, I can see the FA dream becoming a reality. --Chip123456 (talk) 10:35, 9 April 2012 (UTC) ✅ article was passed

Sarnia Good Article Nomination
Hi, Chip123456. For the Sarnia article, I think I have all paragraphs with citations, both external and through internal linking. Let me know if I missed any.TheKurgan (talk) 19:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Right, let me have a look now as yesterday I saw some paragraphs without any references. --Chip123456 (talk) 09:11, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I see that you added more references yesterday. I and another editor have put some more improvements on the talk page. --Chip123456 (talk) 09:20, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * How is it looking?TheKurgan (talk) 21:01, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Good, I see you have cut out the museum section and placed it in the attractions section which I think is sensible. An expansion on the health car would be good, although take a break!!! It's OK to have a break every now and then, you still have around 6 days to make it the best it can be!--Chip123456 (talk) 21:06, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Once I get this to GA standard, next step is FA!TheKurgan (talk) 01:14, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure you will, I have left some more improvements on healthcare. --Chip123456 (talk) 10:47, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

I have made changes to the changes, Chip. Sorry if I misunderstood your recommendations. I hope you like the new rework! TheKurgan (talk) 14:33, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

✅ article passed

Life peer articles
Hi. Just to let you know, it's Wikipedia convention to put "The Lord X" (either "Lady" or "Baroness" for female life peers) in the infoboxs relating to life peers, such as Alan Sugar, as they are officially styled as such. See WP:NCPEER and MOS:HONORIFIC. Thanks, -- Tærkast (Discuss) 18:06, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for telling me. Yep, I know they are styled like that but I thought that we should put the official title!! Thanks --Chip123456 (talk) 18:13, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Italics for terminus
Hi, re - in a routebox, the best way of italicising Terminus is to omit the parameter. Most of the group will show Terminus by default if one or more of the previous/next parameters are blank or absent. BTW it's only vandalism if it's malicious damage - a failed attempt to "improve" the page falls under good-faith. -- Red rose64 (talk) 23:17, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

They were good faith edits, but I did tell the user that they shouldn't do that and they continued, hence me taking the step between GF edits and vandalism. --Chip123456 (talk) 15:39, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Section names on talk pages
Hi, I've because it duplicated another (one which was created after yours: User talk:Redrose64), so section links were either going to the wrong place, or failing completely. Month/year section names are normally only used for templated messages such ase warnings (see WP:UW) - other messages get a descriptive header (see WP:TALKNEW). -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:04, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Yep, that fine thanks for informing me. --Chip123456 (talk) 15:38, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

CVU Academy
Ok, yes, sounds good! Anything to reduce vandalism I'm there to help!--Chip123456 (talk) 15:52, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and sign up! You could be our first Enrollee. Achowat (talk) 15:55, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Chip, I've just indicated that you meet our Guidelines for Enrollment. As an instructor, I'm wondering if you'd like to work with me as our first "Test Case", to see how you're doing? I'm generally around from 0800-1700 EDT (or 1200-2100 UTC). Feel free to respond here if you'd have me as an instructor. Cheers! Achowat (talk) 16:00, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I mean you were the person who suggested it to me, so it would be great to have you as an instructor. If that's ok!--Chip123456 (talk) 16:12, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It'd be great! Though, I must tell you, the CVUA is an entirely new program, so we're going to be playing these things by ear. If at any time you have questions, please tell me to slow down and ask. Our entire time together should be based on you understanding the Four Steps of countering vandalism (Identify, Restore, Warn, Report).
 * But, I guess I'll start with a question: Have you read WP:VAND (if not, do so now)? Do you have any questions about identifying what is and is not Vandalism? Achowat (talk) 16:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, let's hope we can make great use o the programme. Fully understand differences, have read it before but will familiarise with myself now. I use the TW tool, which is helpful. Are there any other tools you can recommend, HG etc. --Chip123456 (talk) 16:23, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I, personally, only use manual undos and rollback, though I've heard great things about the usefulness of Huggle (though Huggle requires Rollback access). I'm going to be reviewing your Vandalism reverts, to better judge where you are in the process, and to help facilitate that, I ask that you use the edit summary " " for all such edits.
 * The Four Steps to countering vandalism (Identifying Vandalism, Restoring to the stable version, Placing User Templates, and Reporting at WP:AIV) are what's most important, so I ask that you review WP:WARN (for templates) and WP:GAIV (for reporting). Otherwise, just use me as a resource to help you learn the ropes. Achowat (talk) 17:21, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Yep, ok, will familiarise myself with them now. I tend to add RV in caps to all of the things I undo, all though may forget so will insure I always remember to add. I applied for RB rights yesterday although it was politely declined. Do you think I should re-request, will it be more use for me and quicker to undo the vandalism/GF edits. --Chip123456 (talk) 17:49, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You actually came to my attention because I saw your denied request. The admins over at WP:PERM want you to have a little more experience before granting you the tool. Hopefully Academy instruction (though bearing no authority with it) will help you in that pursuit.
 * After you've read WP:VAND, WP:WARN, and WP:GAIV, take a little while (a normal editing session worth, I'd say) doing your normal counter vandalism edits. Revert, warn, report, just as you had always been doing. Tonight (after work), I'll take a look at your contributions and we'll talk about ways to improve. Sound good? Achowat (talk) 17:57, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Yep it does. Thanks! --Chip123456 (talk) 18:26, 23 April 2012 (UTC)


 * So, how are they looking? --Chip123456 (talk) 19:12, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I actually haven't seen any vandalism reverts at all, which is neither good nor bad, I just don't have any basis to critique you on. Achowat (talk) 19:15, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I have referred some as vandalism. I do use RV quite a lot! To be fair, when I revert, I just don't look for vandalism, I look for non constructive edits, poorly sourced information etc, --Chip123456 (talk) 19:24, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And that's good! That's great, actually. No reason to limit yourself to Vandalism. Perhaps you can point me to the diff for a counter vandal revert so I can assess it (and others like it)? Achowat (talk) 19:25, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Example - User talk:Rhobat Bryn Jones. In the beginning they were doing a GF edit, they linked an section to an article that didn't exist. I told them, politely that it was no use for readers. A couple of days later I saw that he/she had ignored ones advice and had done it to several other articles. I deemed that as a bad faith edit, and possible vandalism. I gave them another warning and so far I haven't seen the same mistake made after I placed another warning (GN) on their TP by me. --Chip123456 (talk) 19:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, well, there's a couple things going on here we can talk about. The first is the warning templates. They each have an unnamed "article" parameter and its generally considered good form to use this (So Good Faith editors know where they bollacks up). So, instead of, say  you could, instead, use   or whichever template you deemed accurate.
 * Second is the usefulness of red links. Red links are generally considered good in articles (not-so-much in lists, dabs, and templates) because it points editors to Wanted pages. If a link is to a potentially notable article, we generally want that kept. (See WP:RED for more details) That being said, what the editor in question did (linking a slightly more-accurate red link at the expense of a slightly less accurate blue link) is probably unacceptable. I don't think the Warning template you used (test1) was appropriate, since the editor clearly understood and was using the Wiki software successfully. A personalized message (something like "Hey, this is why we link to X instead of Y") might have been better form. In all, not a huge deal, but we want to make sure that the Templates we use accurately state what we want to state before we slap one on there.
 * Third, and least importantly, is that many new users don't bother reading Edit summaries for edits reverting their work (especially as it's been a few days). When there's an editor strattling the line between malice and incompetence, we should go especially out of our way to assume good faith (which you've been doing), and part of that may mean striking up a conversation with hir about how s/he can go about editing productively.
 * Also, I'm watchlisting this page, so talkback isn't necessary (just to save you the edit). Let me know if any of that was confusing. Cheers! Achowat (talk) 19:53, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I, personally find the templates more useful than a personal message. It gets the message across, in a polite manner. Please can you use Italics on the key bits you want me to focus on above, so I can easily refer back to it! It would be great help. --Chip123456 (talk) 20:20, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, I didn't think that the Templates would substitute between Templates; it should make more sense now. I agree, the Templates are better than a personal message, they're what the Community wants us to say in these situations. But it's also important that a Template is appropriate, that it says what we want to say. I don't think that user was making test edits, and I wouldn't have used that template. And lacking a template that I feel was approprite (because this situation doesn't occur very often) I would drop by with a polite template-style note for the user. Achowat (talk) 20:25, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok..... Also you put instead of using vandalism 1 use vandalism 1?????!!!!!--Chip123456 (talk) 20:29, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Me and my copy-paste issues. Instead of uw-vandalism1 you can add an article parameter, say for George W. Bush by using . Hope that clears everything up (though I understand it may not). Achowat (talk) 20:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, we all do it!!! So, did I do the right thing. You were saying "what the editor in question did......is probably unacceptable ?--Chip123456 (talk) 20:43, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There's a neat little series of templates designed to show template usage without actually pulling in the template. I find that is most useful for transcluded templates, and  is best for substituted templates. So, the two examples above, which are for a subst'd template, would be linked with  and, which produce  and  respectively. Going back to an earlier point: you can link a user's page, talk page and contribs with , as in  which produces . -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:54, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a bunch, WikiJaguar. I've been using tl (I'm going to be shocked if that works), which doesn't allow listing of named parameters. My hero! Achowat (talk) 12:27, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * So, did I???? --Chip123456 (talk) 14:55, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't think I understand your question. Do you understand my point about naming a parameter? Achowat (talk) 15:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Did I do the right thing? The question before Redrose64 commented. --Chip123456 (talk) 15:35, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, what you've been doing is great. I just noticed that you went and added the Diffs to a page and was letting you know that the template can do that for you. Achowat (talk) 15:38, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Beatles infobox
There is a Straw Poll taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc (talk) 02:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

WP:PERM
So, evidently, the Templates won't let me "nominate" you for Rollback, but use should put yourself there and let me know when you do. I'd like to leave a nao about our work together. Achowat (talk) 12:38, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

✅ applied and were granted

About the rather touchy subject of the Lolita Anime page.
Greetings, this is the editor from earlier who performed that edit on the Lolita Anime page.

Sorry for the rather sudden removal of the external source. Despite the fact it is an external source, I have posted up a request and explanation on the talk page.

The page does deal with one of the most controversial stories ever made, and adaptations into a medium with implications of hypersexuality and deviancy, but I feel it would be best if it would be dealt more maturely.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.153.213 (talk) 07:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, I reverted it because you removed it without an explanation on the edit summary, that's the reason, just to let you know! --Chip123456 (talk) 14:49, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Unfolded Film
Hi Chip,

I replied to your "speedy deletion" comment on our film, "Unfolded" please read and let me know if you have questions. I really don't understand what more you need at this point. I listed both the production company and attached our SAG approval letter. These kids are working really hard to make something great. Its a real shame that someone would write such a pointless and cruel comment. Please read reply and let me know if you need anything else from us. Thank you.

Best, Michelle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mich24 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Michelle,

Thanks very much for the reply, although I have just put the article up for CSD under G2 test edit. This may make no sense to you, but the article page and your talk page will have the tag on there with more information. I'm sorry I had to put it up for deletion, although it does seem like a test edit article. I would suggest that for future articles that you create that you use the sandbox. Thanks--Chip123456 (talk) 15:39, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * 'Fun' was not the first word that came into my mind, maybe the word interesting or in some parts stressful maybe more suitable, although you are a nice editor. --Chip123456 (talk) 18:59, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * And again, I find myself reading through my comments and thinking 'that persons grumpy' not realising that it's me! Sorry!--Chip123456 (talk) 20:29, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

A styling tip
Hi, re to your user page. The problem with using multiple blank lines is that you can't be sure just how many are needed, because you don't know the dimensions of the screen used by other users. The characteristics also vary between browsers. The best way of ensuring that something like a heading is forced below a box is to use one of  or : you can see  in action at Watergate Halt railway station where it's used to get the "References" heading below the images, but still allow it to be alongside the infobox. -- Red rose64 (talk) 21:22, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, ok, thanks for telling me! --Chip123456 (talk) 06:48, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ I think! --Chip123456 (talk) 16:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Cardiff Central Station
Could you please remind me in what way the changes I made to the above website were not helpful?

Rhobat Bryn Jones 9th May 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhobat Bryn Jones (talk • contribs) 23:32, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You changed a fully working link (blue) to to article that wasn't yet created (red). Although red links are considered helpful (See WP:RED), you replaced a perfectly working blue link, which was linked to an appropriate page for the CDF services part for w red link which was no use to anybody at that moment. As one said, they are considered helpful, but when there is a blue link available, use that one. If you need anymore help, please feel free to contact me. - --Chip123456 (talk) 06:48, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

I would prefer to have this discussion here
It is a possibility if you look at the user page of the registered editor, it may point out a clue, although I always manage to log in. --Chip123456 (talk) 15:35, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I thought so. What are you meaning re- although I always manage to log in. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:26, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, if you see the users UP, it says 'if I forget to log in'. It wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the other user. If you had seen their UP, you would of understood!--Chip123456 (talk) 16:29, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * No, no ... I had already noticed that yesterday. What I was asking, is your always managing to log in.  I am always logged in to Wikipedia when I switch on the computer (I always switch it OFF on retiring).  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:34, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I always log off my WP account when I shut down, so when I turn on I have to log in to my WP account.--Chip123456 (talk) 16:39, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course you are on my watchlist. Have been since Monday.
 * I wonder why you log off. P'haps you share.  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I take it you mean share computer, no, not usually! It's automatic to log off for me I always do it! --Chip123456 (talk) 16:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Just been reading your notice to other users about Talkback, to which I entirely concur. I am interested to see your interest in Cardiff railway station (immed. above here) and I expect you know that I was born and raised near Cardiff.  Do you have any link?  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:06, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm a bit mean like that, it's like saying I can do it but you can't, because I put them on people's pages (however, if they don't like them and they express that I won't) but I detest having them put on my pages, although if I like the editor, it's fine! Are you asking if I have links to Cardiff? --Chip123456 (talk) 17:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes ... and the country, Wales (I have assumed that you are in the UK like me) -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I could guess you were from Wales! Yes, although I don't live there, I have family links. --Chip123456 (talk) 17:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

From my Talk page:- " I'm still unsure to whether you have me watch listed or not! I replied to you earlier. See my posting here at 16:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)  I would have expected you to have read my User page before now, being a fellow  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:42, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I have only seen your talk, and I only took in the part about you asking if I shared not seeing the watch list part! I asked on your TP, but you didn't reply so ..... How is rollbacking and Huggle going by the way? + congrats for being granted them!--Chip123456 (talk) 17:47, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I like the fact that Huggle is not permanently down-loaded.  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:52, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Suppose that's a bonus. Personally, I don't use Huggle (at the moment), I just use the rollback tools and Twinkle, although I have been told by fellow rollbackers that it's quite useful, do you think the same? --Chip123456 (talk) 17:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Much the same as you ... I am cautious using Rollback, on its own, and with Huggle ... and Twinkle seems friendlier and more controllable. Please explain rollback tools.  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:38, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure. With rollback, you are able to revert the most recent edit of the page with a single click. I advise after you have rollbacked an edit that you warn the editor who has done something wrong. Rollback should be used with caution and I sometimes mess up and if you do mess up, it's not a problem just undo your rollback and say something like 'accidental use if rollback' in the edit summary. It should be used to undo blatant vandalism, non consrtuctive wide spread edits by a misguided editor (as long as you note that it wasn't vandalism in the correct place eg their talk page, but do give them a note to say why you reverted it) and edits in your own user space also to revert accidental edits made by yourself. Use the Identify, Restore, Warn procedure/steps and if they persist and you have run out of warnings report the vandal at WP:AIV. Remember, I believe there is no WP:3RR so don't worry about that. On a down note, misuse of Rollback will usually see the rights removed, but I'm sure you'll be fine. Reasons why they may be removed are if you revert good faith edits or use the tools to gain one up in an edit war. Also, another thing that I did was forget that if the editors edit that you reverted has been contributing consecutively on that page, all of their previous edits (the ones which have been done consecutively) will also be rollbacked, so watch out for that! I think that's covered everything/hope! More info at WP:RBK and WP:VAND, any other questions?--Chip123456 (talk) 18:58, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Yesterday, on a talk page I spotted a vandal.  I reverted and simultaneously the user was undoing the edit too.  He got there a nano-second before me.  I posted an immediate apology on his Talk page and he made a charming, empathetic reply, within moments.  He turned out to be an admin. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 20:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * No problem! And the above has never happened to me.......yet! --Chip123456 (talk) 06:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


 * ... give it time! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 07:25, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Your new UBX
I wonder why I am not surprised ...

... Seriously, though, I am sure that – in time – you would be an ideal candidate.

All the best! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Although I probably won't apply till late this year/next year, have you ever considered applying?--Chip123456 (talk) 09:11, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Good heavens! I would never be asked.  I am far too much of a slothful, old codger to be considered.  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 09:49, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * No your not! If people thought you were like a Wikisloth, you wouldn't of been granted RB rights or anything like that! --Chip123456 (talk) 09:52, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * ... and AutoWikiBrowser permission – which I cannot access, because I have lost (and cannot recover) Internet Explorer, would you believe!
 * Apart from the AWB problem, I don't care, because I much prefer Mozilla Firefox 12.0 -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:14, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I think your a great help on WP! --Chip123456 (talk) 10:18, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for that. I know you do not like tb notices, so please feel free to remove it after using once. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 10:22, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * It's fine! Although you could do something like User talk: Gareth Griffith-Jones#(x) to show whatever you want me to see! (of course replacing the x with the thread name and using the Chip123456 (talk) 10:52, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know. Odd isn't it, that one uses the 'pipe' in the former, and the 'hash' in the latter.  You are correct; your way is better when you are acquainted.  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm here to help like that! Are you feeling better with Huggle now? --Chip123456 (talk) 11:26, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It is okay, but I don't like the fact that you are not choosing which article you edit. Then when you label some poor innocent (user) a vandal, you feel a bit of a heel.  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:49, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you'll get used to it! --Chip123456 (talk) 12:33, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

FishingKing
Yeah I think we posted about the same time!! Never mind, off to get more of these annoying people! All the best (FishingKing, fighting to keep Wikipedia factual. (talk) 09:07, 13 May 2012 (UTC))
 * Yes, probably! And like wise all the best, --Chip123456 (talk) 09:10, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh I didn't know that, won't block people anymore then! — Preceding unsigned comment added by FishingKing (talk • contribs) 19:25, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, FishingKing...you didn't know that?.  Tide  rolls  19:42, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Please correct the website
SINCE U HAVE UPLOADED BACK THE INDIAN DTD HD PROVIDERS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HD_channels_in_India

THERE ARE ALOT OF MISTAKES THERE PLEASE CHECK

DISH TV WRONG INFORMATION ,

PLEASE CHECK THE 2 UPDATED LINKS FROM HERE BELOW WHICH ARE UPDATED ACCORDING TO THE LYNGSAT, AS WELL AS DISH TV WEBSITE ITSELF

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/dishasia5.html http://www.dishtv.in/DishtruHDplus/hd_packs.html

Please correct the information according to the update website mentioned above

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradleyper (talk • contribs) 19:56, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Why the capital text? I rollbacked your edit as you removed a pages text without a valid reason in the edit summary, which is considered non-constructive editing on Wikipedia. Please discuss this with editors who are into this sort of subject on the articles talk page and see how many people agree with the sources but, if your not happy with the page, don't get rid of the information, discuss or DIY. --Chip123456 (talk) 20:07, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Rollback
I have granted rollback rights to your account. After a review of some of your contributions, I believe you can be trusted to use rollback for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see New admin school/Rollback and Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know and I will remove it. Good luck and thanks. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:00, 27 April 2012 (UTC) —Tom Morris (talk) 16:00, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! --Chip123456 (talk) 16:20, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Rollbacker in less than five months, hey? Congrats - it took me thirteen. At that rate, you'll be an administrator by November this year. -- Red rose64 (talk) 22:28, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Grats, Chip123456...You deserve it!TheKurgan (talk) 02:01, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks TheKurgan! Redrose, is that a compliment? I'm taking it as one! And I think admin by November may be pushing the boat out a bit! --Chip123456 (talk) 16:50, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry. Amended. -- Red rose64 (talk) 18:31, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks! --Chip123456 (talk) 18:34, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redrose, I was just wondering, does Wikipedia have any programmes or training/like a WP adopt system for aspiring admins. Of course, I have absolutely no intention of applying in the near future, I was thinking maybe the end of this year/next year. I just wanted to know so I can get more of an idea of what people like you do, in more depth than just the WP page, even though it has been a great use. Also, are there any other things I can get involved in to help me gain more experience in as many different areas as I can. Sorry for asking here, it's just your TP is so busy that when you write something you can get involved in an edit conflict. --Chip123456 (talk) 20:11, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * One place to start is Administrators' reading list. What you could do is to look at List of administrator hopefuls and put one of the two user boxes on your user page. This will draw attention from those who can discuss these matters with you.
 * Admins are given a wide range of extra rights, but are under no obligation to use them all. They are, however, trusted to use them responsibly: if an admin abuses some (or even just one) of the admin rights, they can all be revoked. It's not like the rollback right, which can be granted independently: if somebody is given, for example, the right to delete pages, they also get the rights to block users and protect pages - they are a package which can't be granted or revoked independently. It's not really possible to get experience in all of the admin tasks without being granted the right to do so - for example, non-admins can't gain experience in blocking, deletion or page protection. However, active and constructive participation in the various WP:XFD debates does give experience in the kind of judgments needed to close these debates; sometimes closure of these may be effected by a non-admin - see WP:NACD - but this is essentially those debates which tend overwhelmingly to "keep". -- Red rose64 (talk) 21:16, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ added my name to the list/UBX. I will read the reading list and will try and get in with the XFD, although recently I have been participating every now and then then at WP:PERM with some and  because if I were in the future to become an Admin this, would be one area where I would like to contribute as well as things like WP:AIV and WP:ANI. Thanks. --Chip123456 (talk) 08:36, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I see that your edit was : this often happens with bot-updated pages - they ignore what is already there and generate a fresh list based upon the specification of the bot's task. The problem is that your user page is not showing in, which is where obtains its information. I have asked  why the userbox no longer adds that category. -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:11, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's odd! Should I put myself back on there?--Chip123456 (talk) 11:16, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No, because the bot will only remove you again. Bots don't look at page history to see why a change was made - they make amendments based upon what they "know" is correct. I want to get to the root of it: why no longer categorises pages into . -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:28, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

It still says on one of the pages about it that adding the box will automatically place you in the category. I know your busy, but I was wondering when/if you have time that you could take a brief look over my contributions to see if I'm doing OK?--Chip123456 (talk) 11:32, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The userbox has been, and the bot has now to the relevant list. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:42, 16 May 2012 (UTC)