User talk:ChrisBrittain

Image copyright problem with Image:Bataan march.jpg
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Image copyright problem with Image:Deathmarch.jpg
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Image copyright problem with Image:Deathm1.jpg
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Image copyright problem with Image:Bataan DM.JPG
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A tag has been placed on Jack P. Brittain requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. thadius856talk 06:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

On the deletion of your article--a note from another editor

 * Hi ChrisBrittain. I am so sorry your article was deleted--as you said in your edit-summary, this is your first day here, and I'm sure all these template messages and then this nomination probably seems to you like a big pile-on. I wasn't the one who deleted your article, but I was in the process of nominating it (a slightly slower, gentler way of going about the process, which involves discussion instead of an instant decision). This was the message I was writing to you to explain my reasoning--I was just about to post it when I discovered that someone else deleted it without discussion.

(from my original message) You said that the article is about your grandfather; here on Wikipedia, just admitting that you're writing about someone you know personally will often put you on shaky ground with a lot of folks. That's considered a conflict of interest, in some cases; in other cases, it's called "vanity". I don't think it's either, personally. The only reason I nominated this article is fairly simple: unless he did something extremely notable, his information should not be placed in an encyclopedia. Now, you ALSO mentioned that there's more info to come; if in this information it comes out that he earned the Medal of Honor or saved an entire platoon or something along those lines, that would satisfy the criterion for notability. WP:Notability will explain this better than I can; however, just to summarize: unless your granddad was specifically written about in newspapers, magazines, or books, and you can cite these references, the article will most probably be deleted.

I hate to do this, particularly to an article about someone who served his country--and even more so, I hate to do it because it could discourage you from contributing. Please don't let that happen. Maybe you could try contributing at the Bataan Death March article, or other aspects of the war that you might have information about??

Oh, and about the copyright tags?? This place is HUGELY uptight about images, free use, and related topics--I would read everything they've got about uploading images, but even then you're likely to see a notice practically anytime you upload an image--the whole issue is really, really contentious here.

Hang in there--practically EVERYONE's first article gets deleted, which is why I've so far stuck to editing existing articles only. That's generally a pretty safe way of contributing.... :) Gladys J Cortez 07:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow I hope I'm doing this right lol I clicked edit to talk on here because i dont know how to reach you back- I'm so sorry about that, I see how that could be a problem with pictures and yes I hav an old letter and pictures from the white house and many pictures of his metal of honor :) there is a verry nice story that might be of proper intrest. It may be better for me to pass this on over to my dad thow -to complete and what'not on here- I'm a little behined on my computer stuff (just now "half-way" figured out myspace) any way, thank you so much for your kindness and pationce with me. My E-Mail is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and i can be reached there if i goofed to badly, and at xxxxxxxxxxxxx my dads is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx thanks again :) -Chris

helpme '''To the first admin that pops up here: I x'ed out the e-mail addys in the above message, but could one of you please expunge them from the history too??? Chris is new here, and I'd hate for the inevitable consequences of this to happen to him!!!!''' I don't know what the propriety is of placing this on someone else's page, but it seemed extreme enough to do so!!! Thanks so much...18:19, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, crucial matter first: YIKES! :::shudder::: I xx'ed out your e-mail addresses, and I'm going to go find an admin to remove them from the history because otherwise, your e-mail box will never be the same again, nor your dad's!!! These talk pages are public--anyone can see them, and those spam-creating robots crawl them like, a trillion times a day and get all the e-mail addresses they can. So: word of advice, never never NEVER put ANY personal info on Wikipedia!! Think of this place as like...Times Square in the 1970's. Putting any personal info--e-mail or anything else--on Wiki is like standing in Times Square with a sandwich board saying "I'm extremely wealthy, I live at 123 Elm Street and I left all the doors and windows unlocked and nobody's home. Here are turn-by-turn directions and oh, here's my credit-card number too..." :) It's just asking for trouble.

Okay, now that I've finished panicking... You'll find that at least half the people on Wiki are kind and helpful. Then there are the other 40% who have been here so long that they've forgotten what it's like to be a new user, so they forget to be helpful; and the other 10% who are just here to vandalize and raise heck. And those numbers, should you wonder, are entirely made up.

The best thing to do, while creating an article, is to create a page under your user account (also known as "userfying") and work on it there, til you're sure it meets those notability guidelines. THEN post it to article space. (Confused yet? Yeah, I know. I find myself on the Help pages about five times a day at least.) That way, once you get all your info into it, you'll have a better defense as to what's notable about the subject of the article. Brand-new, short articles particularly get pounced on, mainly because so many people create so many meaningless articles about "my garage band I started three days ago with two other kids from Mrs. Foley's seventh-grade homeroom" which have NO chance of being notable, ever--and those articles are mostly short.

Like I said, hang in there--and don't post your e-mail anywhere! :)Gladys J Cortez 18:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Gladys, an admin can't expunge the emails from the history without deleting the whole page, which they are very unlikely to do. That sort of thing requires oversight permission, and can only be requested by Chris himself (or I suppose his father, since his email was posted as well).
 * Chris, welcome to Wikipedia. Sorry your first day here hasn't been the most spectacular, but it happens to a lot of people. Don't be discouraged. It is possible that we could have an article about your grandfather sometime in the future, however if we do, I'd have to recommend that neither you or your father write it. That creates what we call a conflict of interest which could potentially affect the neutrality of the article, something which we hold very important on Wikipedia. If you would like to start on it to give some other editors a chance to help you out, I'd recommend doing what Gladys suggested - In fact, here is a link to a subpage that should work for this purpose: User:ChrisBrittain/Jack P. Brittain. That won't be in the main article space, so won't be deleted for notability. It'll give you and other editors a chance to work on it until it's ready for "the big time."
 * While you're working on that, you may also want to read up on a few of our policies. It seems most of your trouble here was in relation to image copyright, something which is taken very seriously on Wikipedia. When you upload an image, you have to make sure you select a license from that drop-down menu on the form. If you're not sure what the license means, a sample of it will appear when you select it, with plenty of links to the actual license to help you explain what it's all about. If you uploaded an image that you scanned from a newspaper or found online somewhere, you'll need to use a "fair use" template and a rationale explaining why Wikipedia should be allowed to use the copyrighted image in their article. I know this is all very confusing, but if it helps, I have a short tutorial here which you are more than welcome to look through: User:Hersfold/Adopt/Copyright (if the link is red, I'll have the page up soon - until then, it's at User:Hersfold/Adopt, just scroll down a bit). Also, here are some of the policy and guideline pages that should help you out in the near future:
 * Neutral point of view
 * Notability
 * Citing reliable sources
 * Image copyright
 * How to upload & use copyrighted images
 * Back to your email for a moment - as Gladys pointed out, Wikipedia is a very bad place to post your email. Some pages are copied across websites we call "mirrors", and while yours isn't likely to be one of them, it's still a bad idea to post it. If you do want editors to contact you, you can put your email address in Special:Preferences. This will activate a "Email this user" link when anyone is viewing any of your user pages, so that they can send you an email without having your email address exposed. If you would like to get rid of your email from your talk page's history as described by Gladys above, you can follow the instructions at Requests for oversight and they'll take care of it as soon as they are able.
 * Anyway, I do hope you stay and continue to help the project - we're always looking for new editors! Welcome again, and happy editing! Hers fold  (t/a/c) 19:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)