User talk:ChrisRuvolo/Archive/2008

AfD nomination of List of buildings in Lower Manhattan
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 * I was going to close it as delete, but I wanted to know if you wanted to put it in your userspace and make it a category. Please respond on my talk page. Regards, J- ſtan ContribsUser page 04:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I did copy the text to my userspace at User:ChrisRuvolo/List of buildings in Lower Manhattan. Perhaps you can make it a move in order to preserve the edit history?  I'll categorize later.  Thanks for your help.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 18:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * As in move to Category:Buildings in Lower Manhattan? I'll wait for your reponse until I close it. J- ſtan ContribsUser page 18:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * No, as in do a move, moving List of buildings in Lower Manhattan with history on top of my copy at User:ChrisRuvolo/List of buildings in Lower Manhattan. The GFDL says that the edit history must be preserved. Thanks. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Mmm, I'm going to ask a more experienced admin to do that. It was already deleted, but I'll talk to another admin. J- ſtan ContribsUser page 16:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I took care of it. J- ſtan ContribsUser page 16:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt. Sorry I closed without moving, but I didn't see this request. I also followed up and deleted the cross-namespace redirect created by the move when I happened on it today. Pastordavid (talk) 16:46, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks to you both. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Why did you tag Kate Atkinson Boehme?
I noticed that you recently tagged the Kate Atkinson Boehme article for non-notability. Why did you do that? She was a well-known and well-respected New Thought writer of her era and at least some of her books are still in print, 100 years after their first publication.

I think it is always better to add data to Wikipedia than to suggest taking an article away.

I suggest that in the future instead of tagging a stub about a long-deceased author as non-notabile that you do a simple amazon search on the author, pick up the status of any current in-print books and current ISBNs and add same to the author's article. That's what i just did. And then i removed your spurious non-notability tag.

cat yronwode Catherineyronwode (talk) 04:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I tagged the Kate Atkinson Boehme article with importance because it does not explain her importance. That label suggests improvement, not deletion.  What I would suggest is adding information about what her writing introduced or meant to the field.  What did her contemporaries think about it?  And what do modern writers have to say about her conclusions?  How did she shape thought in her field?  Thats the kind of information that is needed to explain her importance and the importance of her writings.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 15:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I have added more about her philosphy and the general content of her books, and also listed two more book titles by her. I have no biographical information on her but, due to the "Atkinson" name, i have always wondered what -- if any -- relatioship she had to William Walker Atkinson, another New Thought writer. Both of them worked for Elizabeth Towne, but i have found no record of them ever living in the same place at the same time. As for what her contemporaries thought of her -- well, i could quote Elizabeth Towne, i suppose, but i don't have time to pull down my old Nautilus mgazines and copy such stuff out. She certainly was regarded well in her time, but if i wrote that in so many words, someone would put a cite tag on it, so i'd rather just let the fact that her work remains in print speak for her popularity, since the current ISBNs function as citations for that. cat yronwode Catherineyronwode (talk) 09:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks much better. Nice work.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 12:49, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the laugh.
Miltary-Boy Scout-Industrial Complex. Thats the funniest thing I've read on here in a while. Hope this returns the favor. :) --ChrisRuvolo (t) 19:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I was offended by the sinister implication that all of us folks from New Jersey have gathered together to defame a real American hero. I couldn't help but use the line, once it popped into my head, and it reminds me of the bit from the Austin Powers movies, where Frau Farbissina is introduced as the founder of the militant wing of the Salvation Army. Your userbox is a classic, and I am thinking of adding it to my user page, even though I am particularly deadset against using the darn things. It's good to know that someone is reading the article's talk page, and I am still trying to come up with a text that will satisfy the bourgeois lackeys of the Military-Boy Scout-Industrial Complex who should really be spending their time more productively at the factories where they construct their plutonium-powered merit badges. It's always a pleasure to cross paths. Alansohn (talk) 20:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I Think Its Better To Keep The 7 Extension Map
The map is the only one avalible besides the map is from the New York Times one made by a person would be of inferior quality and it is resgistered as it says on the copyright page:


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 * discussion moved to Image talk:7 Subway Extension1.jpg. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 15:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody#Copyright_issues

read that before leaving copyright infringement issues. Mghabmw (talk) 03:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Copyright infringement?!
Parody read that before leaving copyright infringement issues. Mghabmw (talk) 03:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I responded at Copyright problems/2008 January 10/Images --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yet it's still not copyright infringement... Mghabmw (talk) 22:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * First Amendment to the United States Constitution -- Good thing I have this on my side... Mghabmw (talk) 22:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Template
Hi Chris, would you consider deleting this userbox? It's not in the best of taste, disparages our processes and seems to be an attack on another group of editors (consider how such a userbox would make the NJ Project members feel if something similar were directed at their group. Also, comments like these are uncivil.  Thanks.  Dreadstar  †  05:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Perhaps it is in poor taste, but it was created out of frustration that information is being excluded contrary to policy. And there is nothing tangible that I can do about it since the people excluding that info are admins.  So since I'm just a powerless peon, the only thing I can do is make others aware of this dispute.  That is what this userbox is for.  Also, I don't see how saying that someone else's joke was funny is uncivil.  But, that all said, I'm a reasonable guy (and a peon), so if you still recommend that the template be removed, I'll do so.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 13:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Chris! I went ahead and deleted it for you, your cooperation and understanding is greatly appreciated.


 * As for the admins in the Coker dispute, none of them have used their Admin tools in the dispute, their actions are the same as any other editor. And yes, Alansohn's comments at the end of that post are definitely uncivil, and actually may even cross the line into a personal attack for insulting and disparaging other editors.  Dreadstar  †  18:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the notice. Replaced in NBC and NBC logos articles. The image that it was being replaced with had no source information. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 21:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

STOP VANDALIZING NBC!
The source of the NBC logos I have uploaded is the NBC Logo Legal Usage Guidelines. It is an internal NBC document. I provided source information, it is from an official source unlike the ones you posted from a dodgy Russian website. STOP YOUR VANDALISM!!!! Hopefully, this should satisfy you. --Also We Brief (talk) 20:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


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 * You want a URL, here is your stinking URL: --Also We Brief (talk) 03:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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Okay, I'll create a new map.
Yeah, I'm not an expert on copyright law, but thanks for your map. It's much larger so the map will fit better with the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jps57‎ (talk • contribs)

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NJ town article assessments
Chris, I saw you changed the assessment for Allentown, New Jersey to C class. I wanted to go through and assess all the articles about towns that were in the backlog of NJ unassessed articles. I rated a large number of articles as B, but I agree with your change, and was hoping to come up with something consistant. Do you think all the automated articles should be C class if they have not been further improved? I also have been rating municipalities as Mid importance, and unicorporated areas as Low.

We could have this discussion on the project talk page, but that has been pretty dead recently. Jim Miller (talk) 13:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Jim, IMO, I think that articles that have not been improved from the automated bot information should either be stub-class (if short for a CDP for example) or start-class if it contains the usual municipality information. Fortunately, WP:NJ members like User:Alansohn have been adding details to nearly all of these articles, so there are few that are in that category.  Many are now either start-class or C-class.  B-Class articles should be well referenced and have broad topical coverage.  Also, at least one photo, IMO.  As for importance, low-importance is for things that are only of ancillary concern to WP:NJ.  Examples include Annie's Road and Evil Clown of Middletown.  IMO, all communities should be mid-importance, except for major cities, which should be high-importance.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Problem with map
You might be interested in the talk thread linked here. — Kurykh  19:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, fixed. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 19:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Why mention this one program in depth and no others?
I would not consider the write up in depth. This is a program which I am familiar with and comfortable enough to include. It is a part of the history of the college as is the new space in Passaic or the opening of the new parking garage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Profcsuha (talk • contribs) 22:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Coker
I never thought of a photo arrangement on Coker like you just did, but I really like it. Thanks for helping. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 23:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, happy to help. That new photo is a great find, and I think the article is much better for it.  Thanks for finding and uploading it.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 18:50, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

NJ article assessment guidelines
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WikiProject New Jersey Newsletter (August 2008)

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Deleting some NJ categories
Chris, I have tagged some unused categories for deletion. You created a few of them, so I wanted to let you know as a courtesy. see here and here if you have any comments.  Jim Miller  See me 00:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. No problem on the removal, since there are equivalent categories.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 01:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Chris, thanks for your edits on the Emergency Services section of RV. Did you go to Valley? Shirulashem (talk) 12:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Happy to help. The challenge now will be finding reliable third-party sources to reference this information. I grew up in RV, but I didn't go to Valley, I got sent to catholic school for high school.  I see you've joined WP:NJ, welcome!  There's a lot to do. :)  Cheers.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 20:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Demographics of New York City
First of all I would like to say that I agree with you. I looked up the data on the nyc.gov website and they do have it as you suggested, not including the outer boroughs prior to the consolidation. So you won that.

Second of all, you unnecessarily reverted all my edits, all of which were fine except the population trend box (our dispute). The middle table “Historical Population Figures” (a hypothetical) shows what the population of New York City would have been if the outer four boroughs were part of New York City prior to the consolidation.

Just so we are on the same page I would like to show you what edits I did so that we can finalize this dispute. These edits were done between Aug. 21st and Aug. 29th.

1. Deleted one of the “New York City compared” tables, there was no need for two of them. 2. Updated the 2007 population estimates and changed the data for from 1790-1890 in the population trend box. - our dispute 3. Changed incorrect data in the “New York City compared” table. 4. Updated the racial and ethnic composition according to the 2006 census estimates. 5. Embedded new article which I created. 6. Deleted graphs created by Julius Schorzman, which included incorrect data. I am working on new graphs. Maybe you can help me publish them since I don’t know much about publishing on wiki. I have lots of other cool graphs and charts that I could publish. 7. Fixed the Historical Population Figures section, including the pre-census data in the table. This is the hypothetical table from which I was trying to pull data and put it into the population trend box.

What I have decided to do is revert to the last edit by AnomieBOT and only change back the data in the population trend box, which was our dispute. That way all my other legit edits are not lost. Reply if you agree. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emigrant85 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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LAST YEAR'S EVENT


 * Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Spring 2008 (a description of the results, and the uploading party)
 * Commons:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Gallery (our cool gallery)

WINNINGS? Prizes include a dinner for three with Wikipedia creator Jimmy Wales at Pure Food & Wine, gift certificates to Bicycle Habitiat and the LimeWire Store, and more!

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WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)!

REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand.

WHERE Participants can begin the hunt from either of two locations: one at Columbia University (at the sundial on college walk) and one at The Open Planning Project's West Village office. Everyone will end at The Open Planning Project:


 * Wikis Take Manhattan page at The Open Planning Project


 * 349 W. 12th St. #3
 * Between Greenwich & Washington Streets
 * By the 14th St./8th Ave. ACE/L stop

FOR UPDATES

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WikiProject New Jersey Newsletter (October 2008)

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WPNJ AWARD

 * Thank you kindly for the WPNJ award. Unfortunately, I've been quite busy with issues IRL and haven't been able to contribute recently.  I'll get back here eventually though. :)   Thanks!  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 15:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)