User talk:ChrisTheDude/Archive 29

FAC review
Hey, you've been a lot of help when it's come to FLC reviews for me in the recent months, so I was wondering if you had some time, if you could have a look at my first FAC. If you're busy or not interested, no problem. -- Zoo  Blazer  01:14, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, I will try and take a look in the next few days! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * - gosh, thank you for your very kind words! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:49, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Wanderers topic nom.
For the record, if I had known it was your topic then I would've asked you about it before nominating it. I apologise for the inconvenience because I know how tedious WP:FTs can be. Idiosincrático (talk) 11:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * - don't worry about it :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:18, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Mabel (Singer)
I am reaching out in regards to the wWiki entry from teh sinegr Mabel. Someone keeps reverting her background from "English-Swedish" to "English" siting "no proof of citizenship". I just included this link from The Guarding about Swedish RnB and souls singers. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/dec/01/scandipop-mabel-zhala-seinabo-sey In fact no article linked states her citizenhip as eitehr Swedish nor English, but having a Swedish mother, English father and spent ages 8-18 (ten years) in Swedena nd teh Swedish schol system, I fail to see how she shoudl only be listed as "English". Isn't this sabotage? Can you help out? (I remember when her mom became famous in the late 80's, media always questioned her being Swedish since she was black. Now Mabel seems to have teh same issue on Wikipedia. Frustrating Fantomen73 (talk) 20:12, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
User:MaranoFan submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
 * I nominate ChrisTheDude to be EotW. At the time of his nomination his contributions included a whopping 166 FLs, 52 FAs, and several GAs and DYKs. He has been an admin for over 15 years but one would never know it from his kind and humble attitude and modest demeanor. His reviewing efforts have played a huge role in keeping the FLC process running. He tirelessly produces prodigious numbers of quality reviews and numerous well researched nominations to FAC. His appreciation for the work of others has, no doubt, played a role in editor retention over the years. Chris's sublime content work spans areas including sports and music, and it speaks for itself. He has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian according to his userpage. This nomination was seconded by Gog the Mild, Kavyansh.Singh, Hey man im josh and AirshipJungleman29

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Thanks again for your efforts! Buster Seven   Talk  (UTC) 12:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

A bit of advise please
Thank you for your review on List of UEFA Champions League hat-tricks. After its successful promotion, I was planning on working on a new list. Then I came across List of Baltimore Ravens head coaches. I haven't worked on on yet. The lack of head coaches kind of reduces the content in the list. I have previously seen a list been denied promotion due to lack of content. Should I an FLC nomination for this, or is the content too less. eg: List of Cleveland Browns head coaches is already FLC. Atlantis77177 (talk) 04:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Ron Bean for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ron Bean is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Ron Bean until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. JMWt (talk) 08:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

GA Review.
Hello. Do you mind reviewing my article I worked on (Sarah Geronimo) for GA criteria? I'm planning to have it featured on the DYK on the mainpage.  Scarlet Violet  (talk • contribs) 11:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Should cup gates be included in average attendance records?
Hi Chris, sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if one should include only league gates in the average attendance statistics, rather than league and cup matches. For example with the Bath City FC Archive, before 1984 the average attendance statistic is just one reading: 1977–78 Bath City season

After 1984 however, averages are split into both League and Cup: 1984–85 Bath City season Would it make more sense to add them and divide by two or just use league gates? Thanks. Krashaon19 (talk) 16:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * - I see no reason not to include cup attendances, but whatever you do don't add the average league attendance to the average cup attendance and divide by two, because that won't give you the overall average, given that there are way more league matches than cup matches. You would need to add the individual attendances for all matches together and divide by the number of matches -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay makes sense, thank you Chris :) Krashaon19 (talk) 18:28, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for April 12
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Aston Martin DB9
Hi ChrisTheDude, could you possibly take a look at the FAC for the Aston Martin DB9? This will be my first FAC, and will be the first FA about a modern automobile since the Holden Commodore (VE)'s demotion. Best,  750h+ &#124;   Talk  16:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * - sure, I'll endeavour to take a look when I have a bit more time -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi wondering if you’d feel like it still (hope I’m not bugging you in anyway).   750h+ &#124;   Talk  16:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You forgot to mention the guns and ejector seat! . Govvy (talk) 10:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Haha, that's the Aston Martin DB5 :-). I've addressed the issues!   750h+ &#124;   Talk  10:55, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

User:Govvy/Walter Eames
Hiya Chris, I started this in my sandbox, when ever you have time, if you want to add to it please do. Regards. Govvy (talk) 11:23, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Gillingham player note
Not sure if you are interested in this sort of clipping, but I was going through some old Evening Standards and found this about Bert Goodman, an ex-Gillingham player, and naturally thought of you. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Nice one, thanks! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * BTW, I wonder what "sentenced to 12 months in the second division" actually means? I guess it didn't mean he was forced to play in what's now the EFL Championship :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:25, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I've seen the phrase before but never known what it meant. Had a quick look around and found this -- seems to mean a first offender didn't have to mix with the hardened criminals. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 04:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Wembley
Thanks for the thanks. I do find it strange that there are still so many of these links to fix, 17 years after the stadium opened. --Jameboy (talk) 15:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

D(r)aft question
In my infinite boneheadedness, I failed to include any references when I recently created 2024–25 Blackpool F.C. season. As such, today it got moved into the draftspace. I've added a couple of references now, so is it okay to recreate the root article, or do I have to wait for the review process (which could take a while)? Seasider53 (talk) 16:13, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * - I don't see why not :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi again
Hi again, thanks for the review on the Aston Martin DB9 article, it's very much appreciated. When you have time, could you take a look at the Featured Article nomination for the Aston Martin Rapide article? (Please don't feel obligated to). Thanks and best, 750h+ 09:12, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

FAC review request
Hi Chris. Just wondering if you can review the FAC for AC/DC? If not, then that's fine. —  VAUGHAN J.   (t · c) 01:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Pings
Hi Chris, just came across your edit here. Normal pings do not work if they are not inserted in a standard message including a signature, it is probably the same for the FTC ping, so I doubt your message worked. Hope you get a good answer, Featured and good topic candidates/Nomination procedure says it is automatic but the last discussion was before the bot implementation. Best, CMD (talk) 05:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Govvy/Jimmy Pass
I started Jimmy Pass in my sandbox, it would be much appreciated if you wanted too, add, update, anything you add would be good. Cheers. Govvy (talk) 16:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * - I added a tiny bit. There isn't really much to say given how short his time at Priestfield was........ -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:16, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I've also emailed Stockport County's historian to see if he can help provide some information. See what turns up, cheers. Govvy (talk) 08:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

2009–10 Notts County F.C. season
Hi Chris, after getting the 2022–23 Notts County season article up to FA class I thought I'd have go at the 2009–10 Notts County F.C. season. If possible, would you mind having a read through? This was the season where Notts had Sven-Göran Eriksson and it was briefly thought we'd been transformed into one of the richest clubs in the world, except it all turned out to be a scam. Before considering a run at G/FAC, I want to be sure I've got the structure right and explained what happened on and off the field clearly enough. No worries if you're not able to, but any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Eric Idle&#39;s Cat (talk) 19:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * - I just gave the article a readthrough and it looks great! I think you've really explained a complex and confusing situation clearly and well.  There's a few minor stylistic points I might take a swing through and tinker with (the odd missing wikilink, a couple of minor grammar tweaks, that sort of thing) but overall I think the article is definitely pretty much ready for FAC.  Brilliant work!  Oh, and I thought the Gills' time in administration in 1994 was a bit of a mess at times but this really was something else! :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks Chris, any tinkering would be a real help! (it's likely to be a few weeks before I could nominate for FAC, so no rush). The whole episode is so surreal, even all these years later, and even now a lot of Notts fans (quite understandably) don't really know what happened and why. It's been fun to research and read through the scarcely believable stories again. Eric Idle&#39;s Cat (talk) 07:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Jack Nolan
The transfer window does not open until 14 June - and if he was a free transfer, he would move on 1 July. GiantSnowman 17:29, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Request for Admin support
I'm concerned about an unsubstantiated allegation raised by User:Ldm1954 against me. I've three times asked for them to address this, once on a talk page, and twice on Ldm1954's talk page. Are you able to assist please? I can supply the diffs; there are only a few. Thank you --- Sandbh (talk) 07:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Since Sandbh has chosen to escalate here with incomplete information, I have to respond. Sorry, but it is relevant to read the pages Talk:Nonmetal and Talk:Nonmetallic compounds and elements.
 * This concerns the page Nonmetal which I came across, where Johnjbarton had been raising some issues about the term being used incorrectly, but was rejected out of hand by Sandbh. When I read the article and talk I supported John's view, and put in an RFPM, which was not well received and Sandbh continued to reject all other opinions. He also rejected an attempt by YBG to find a middle ground (which both Johnjbarton and I accepted). He stated that he resolved the issue with an edit, but WP:1AM is not a resolution. He accused a page Nonmetallic compounds and elements which I constructed as a overview placeholder of being laughably non-notable, since he could not find that name in Google. He ignored statements by both YBG and Johnjbarton that the title was a temporary disambuguation one -- this is what he misrepresented repeatedly. Could I have been "gentler" with asking him not to misquote/misrepresent others, probably. Has the language used by Sandbh to others verged towards abusive, I will leave that for others to say.
 * Unfortunately I believe we have a case of WP:1AM, where there are additional comments from professional chemists Graeme Bartlett, Smokefoot, Fishsicles, Double sharp and maybe a few more I have forgotten.
 * I know many of the editors involved in this, one as we overlapped scientifically and another by his edits and some discussions (maybe a polite disagreement or two). Since someone else wrote a page on me I am public, so that provides some indication about my knowledge in the area. Unfortunately the issue of WP:COMPETENCE has to be raised. For certain one editor does not have the right to ignore the world.
 * Perhaps block both me (@Ldm1954) and Sandbh from the pages Nonmetal, Nonmetallic compounds and elements and Nonmetal (disambiguation) for a month or even a year and let others clean up the pages. I have more than enough other things on my "ToDo" list. Ldm1954 (talk) 09:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * After patiently asking you to clarify your unsubstantiated allegations three times, without success, I felt obliged to seek the possible help of an administrator. Now that you’ve clarified the basis for your allegation I feel it’d be appropriate to now seek to resolve the matter, between the two of us, either on your talk page or mine. Having worked on the Nonmetal article for over ten years, nine FAC nominations, and over 3,600 edits, it would be nice to see it through. Thank you. —- Sandbh (talk) 10:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:1AM, where I can certify the academic credentials of many of the other editors, ignore my credentials. Sorry, but when you did not know that Metallurgy existed and denied the relevance of the Fermi-Dirac statistics you raised WP:CIR. Ldm1954 (talk) 10:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * When one persists in saying that fuming nitric acid is a "nitrogen-rich compound" (it is neither a compound nor nitrogen rich), one is incompetent in chemistry. Unfortunately Sandbh is in control and willing to dedicate time to defending the nonmetal turf. The situation is perplexing because he might learn some chemistry and materials science if he were not so protective.  --Smokefoot (talk) 14:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Since I was mentioned, I would clarify that I'm not a professional chemist - my academic background is primarily in mathematics and public policy, and what chemistry I've learned is either in support of research in those fields (and a little physics), and out of personal interest. While I consider myself competent and generally chemically literate, I wouldn't say I'm "professional"; it's part of why I'm particular about creating chemistry articles as drafts. (A lot of the articles I've drafted are about chemicals I encountered in papers I was reading for background on other papers, and didn't find in my early tertiary-source Wikipedia check.) Fishsicles (talk) 14:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * And I am a chemical enthusiast, not a professional. I read a lot of chemistry articles, studied it at university, but have never worked in the field. I won't complain about anyone on this page, as I general try to help out! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Chiming in here also to point out that like, my academic background is mostly in mathematics. For me chemistry was a personal interest from childhood that naturally went further when I got Greenwood and Earnshaw as a gift. But I'm not a professional, just generally chemically literate (I hope!). :) Double sharp (talk) 04:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oops, I assumed that everyone was a professional chemist because of their responses, plus I have seen many of Graeme Bartlett's articles in WP:NPP. I know Johnjbarton is a retired physical chemist and Smokefoot appears to know a lot about teaching chemistry. I am a retired chemical physicist and have taught many of the topics in this article such as material properties as well as solid state and done (of course) research. Ldm1954 (talk) 08:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * - apologies, gentlemen, this was raised literally five minutes after I had to drop off WP for the best part of two days to go and fetch my son home from university. I can see some comments above about the issue potentially being taken to talk pages to be worked out (hopefully amicably), do you still need admin intervention? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:39, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @ChrisTheDude, thanks for asking. I don't think you need to be involved in anything, particularly as @Graeme Bartlett is also an admin. Ldm1954 (talk) 23:39, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you ChrisTheDude. Now that I've heard from Ldm1954, I'm happy to attempt to raise any further concerns with him at his talk page. On this occasion, I reached out to you via the Recently Active Users page. It had not occurred to me that Graeme Bartlett was also an admin. --- Sandbh (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Please check on a user
The user SafariScribe declined a draft of a page I was monitoring (advising the originator), Draft:Matt Strassler. When I checked his recent actions, he has been doing hundreds of AfC declinations a day about 7 declinations per hour, and a few moves to draft and only a sporadic acceptance. This feels very odd to me. His account is ~5.5 months old, but he already has significant rights, perhaps inherited from other sites (?). I don't have a way to check; probably I am overreacting. Ldm1954 (talk) 19:35, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ldm1954, when you say something like this about an AFC reviewer without providing diffs, it is as simple as calling him/her incapable of accessing the draft before declining or accepting. While I wait for comment, I also advice you talk out with the reviewer before going further. I don't even know it will escalate to this. Cheers! Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 21:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * As standard, I did due diligence after I saw your review of Draft:Matt Strassler. Sorry, but some of your comments were not right for academic BLP (as it seems you have since recognized). I wanted to check if you were a new reviewer who needed gentle advice or similar. What I found surprised me then, and still does.
 * The point I made then and also now is that I feel you have an astonishing number of rejections per hour, with a correspondingly small acceptance rate. I cannot count them, I don't have the rights to use the relevant tools. I also cannot understand why in 5 months you went from a new account to (extended confirmed user, IP block exempt, pending changes reviewer, rollbacker). From what I see of your earliest edits in Jan 2024 you clearly were not a novice, but there is nothing on your user page to help me understand.
 * Hence I asked an admin to check, stating "I don't have a way to check; probably I am overreacting." I made no accusations, I was just doing due diligence. Ldm1954 (talk) 22:39, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Your statement is somewhat like the ongoing debate between inclusionists and deletionists–accept drafts that aren't suitable for article space just because a reviewer's acceptance rate is lower than their decline rate. To clarify, it's "declining," not "rejection," as these terms have different meanings.I've been a fan of Wikipedia for a long time, especially during my B.Phil., when I used it extensively for having a basic knowledge of Philosophy in year one. On the part of having extended rights, I think having extended rights on Wikipedia is not limited to "just being an editor or an established one." These rights are given to volunteers who can use them effectively, and I believe my reviewing has been fair, although I understand that mistakes can happen, and no one is perfect.For example, it seems editors sometimes revert IP edits because they view them as less credible or see new users as inexperienced. However, a newbie can be just as capable as an established editor. We live in a world where everyone’s contributions should be valued, especially in a volunteer-based community like Wikipedia. So many editors has read Wikipedia for long, and made up their mind to finally edit. Even now going to Theology, I still don't have the time, but because retreat has ended, I have to fully edit on Wikipedia. Please don't take my comments as overreacting; I'm simply advocating for continuous improvement and correction of mistakes. Let's keep the discussion positive. Cheers! Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 23:01, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, now I really do want @ChrisTheDude to look at this. I see that you have gone in and made massive changes to the Matt Strassler page without talking to the originator @NatGertler. In quite a few cases these are not appropriate changes. For instance, it is standard to quote parts of APS Fellow recognition statements. You have also decided to call him a "teacher" and remove that he has a tenure track position. Bluntly, calling a Professor a "Teacher" is an insult. (I actually think that NarGertler should try and find a way to include something about why he left, albeit it is tricky -- I looked into it slightly.)
 * I am tempted to revert many of your edits; I think @lNatGertler should be allowed to decide what he wants Ldm1954 (talk) 23:04, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I do not own the page, and now that it is in article space, I am actually in less of a position to edit it than basically anyone else (due to my slight WP:COI of being a personal acquaintance of the subject and working on it with his encouragement.) But I will agree with you on such thing as "teacher" and the quoting of the APS fellowship statement -- the fellowship is their announcement that he is notable (and notable in a way recognized by Wikipedia), while the statement explains why he is notable. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 23:08, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have restored the professorship and award's quoting. I am sorry if it did affect any change. Welp, the statement of the award is good too. Cheers! Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 23:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Like I said, keep any discussion whatsoever positive. If you feel like it's an insult, manually remove them. Articles aren't owned and it seems you believe that when you talk about the originator. If there is an error, be bold and fix it, and not finding a long thread of discussion. Fwiw, if you think you can review drafts on academics, pick it up, and clear the backlog ,and stop reacting to another volunteers edits. Who said you can't revert them. I am just going to trim down because this is the talk page of Chris. Please correct people or suggest the best way. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 23:09, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Can I just confirm what I am being asked to check? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:33, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I asked for a check on the very large reject/accept ratio of @SafariScribe, and his high status for ~6 months. No accusation, it just seems then and now rather odd. Checking just now I see more AfD rejects, about one every 5 minutes in a burst around ~1:00. At least when I do academics, Google+background+source check+evaluation takes me significantly longer than this. Ldm1954 (talk) 07:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll dig into this properly when I have a sufficient chunk of uninterrupted free time -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I've now finally had a proper chance to look at this and am not seeing anything especially concerning about 's edits. I checked quite a few of the drafts which were declined and they were generally low-hanging fruit (obviously poorly sourced/not sourced).  The Matt Strassler one is an oddity - SafariScribe declined it and then re-nominated it a few hours later.  Was this a rectification of an error? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It was a rectification. I pointed out that Matt Strassler was an APS Fellow, which is an automatic WP:NPROF, although the page still needed a few sources -- I had been advising him. (The editor is experienced, but not with academic BLP and they can be tricky.) I have no further issues as SafariScribe rapidly retracted and then reverted a few other things. Ldm1954 (talk) 21:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)