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Introduction of Life series articles
Hi again. I have a small problem with the following description found in the introduction of many of these articles, something along the lines of "it was the fourth of Attenborough's specialised surveys following his major trilogy that began with Life on Earth." The problem here is that the third documentary of the trilogy was specifically about animal behavior, while the next was on plants. It seems somewhat strange to say plants are a more specialized topic than animals; it's roughly analogous to saying 'botany is a more specialized field than zoology'. We certainly can say this with birds, mammals etc in relation to zoology, but not really with plants. Is this just your own interpretation, or have the first three documentaries been described by others as a trilogy somewhat independent from the following ones? Richard001 (talk) 00:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

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POV on Top Gear
You recently removed a phrase describing the outcome of the Top Gear gardening efforts has having "predictable results." I think you misunderstood my meaning. The point was not to judge the outcome as predictable (i.e. routine or some related judgment) but rather to say things came out as we might expect whenever we see an undertaking Clarkson prefaces with "How difficult can it be?" (i.e.: a disaster!) I'm going to rethink how to phrase, then restore the comment using less ambiguous wording. Hopefully this will serve as a heads-up so it won't be reverted as POV where there is none. Thanks! --Drmargi (talk) 19:16, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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Album Art on Coldplay Album
Chris,

I keep adding a reference to the album cover, its use of a famous painting and its meaning on the new coldplay album page, and it keeps getting deleted by someone (apparently working for a record company or something). If the article is going to reference the album cover art -- isn't it fair game to include a reference to the origins and meaning of that work of art:

I have proposed the following and referenced or footnoted it. If you want to change it again, go ahead, I concede, but I think its a useful, interesting and fair reference. Particularly since the album and artists have a subtle opposition to the Iraq war iand that is conveyed in the album and interviews, but the artwork on the cover ironically speaks to the opposite message, anyway, I propose:

"The album's artwork features the painting Liberty Leading the People (La Liberté guidant le peuple) by French painter Eugène Delacroix, commemorating the July Revolution of 1830, which is considered a commentary on the need for sacrifice and even bloodshed for the furtherance of liberty."

The album's artwork features the painting Liberty Leading the People (La Liberté guidant le peuple) by French painter Eugène Delacroix, commemorating the July Revolution of 1830, which is considered a commentary on the need for sacrifice and even bloodshed for the furtherance of liberty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcahillusa (talk • contribs) 17:39, 2 July 2008 (UTC) Dcahillusa (talk) 17:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for your excellent edits on James Bond film series
Chris42,

All of your edits on the Bond film series are excellent and do impeccable trimming on stuff that was too wordy or needed grammatical fixing. My guess is about one-third of what you edited was originally by me, but you cleaned it without sacrificing content. I did (as you may have noted) revert one-half of your edit on the plot of The Living Daylights as I thought it important that the spy being impersonated is entirely fictitious and never existed. You asked if you "hoped it was still clear". It was indeed clear, but I thought misleading. But in general, I'm very impressed with your work.

--WickerGuy (talk) 17:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply

I agree with you both that "ideally, each summary should be just one sentence." and "I agree that the complex plots of certain of the films do present problems". The specific difficulty with Bond films is not just the complexity of their plots, but the fact that they consistently have a kind of "Chinese box" (or "onion"??) structure. The first part of the film seems to be about one thing, and then we find it is about something else. It isn't just that the films are Byzantine in the sense of maze-like, it's that they are nested in layers. This is what I noted in the section of the article Plot structure. The films I just could not develop short summaries of well were Octopussy, The Living Daylights, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and even more Die another Day. While most Bond films are two-layered, Die another Day practically seems to be an endless hall of mirrors. I've moderately modified Living Daylights per your suggestion.

Cheers,

--WickerGuy (talk) 18:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Postscript

I have to admit I also have a superstitious compulsion to include info about material upon which the title of the film is based, which is completely impossible for Die Another Day as it sort of a throwaway line near the end. However, the title of The Living Daylights comes from Bond's remark "I must have scared the living daylights out of her" when he is chastised by another British agent for deliberately missing his shot. Thus I include the missed shot in the synopsis. Similarly, the bizness about Bond trying to quit and discovering Moneypenny has changed his letter of resignation (which had the phrase "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" in the original draft) in OHMSS. This may be really obsessive-compulsive on my end, but it was part of my thinking. (One might handle this more appropriately with footnotes, but IMO that looks odd in a chart.)

Regards,

--WickerGuy (talk) 21:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Chris, you just cleaned up the one paragraph that I wanted to, but I think you did it better than I would have. (I was going to just add the word 'whatsoever' to the last sentence.) (Doing this work is almost like a crash course in editing style.) --WickerGuy (talk) 19:30, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Again thanks

For a change I disagree
Chris,

IMO, "elaborate stunts" are what Buster Keaton, cheerleaders, and stage magicians like David Copperfield do. While impressive, they usually entail fairly obvious elements of pre-planning and rehearsal which is not transparent and give no illusion of spontaneous thinking on one's feet.

Every single James Bond pre-title sequence from Spy Who Loved Me to Die Another Day with the exception of the silly (and campy) ski-chase which opens A View to a Kill can be correctly and appropriately described as "death-defying".

Hooking Sanchez helicopter in License to Kill, riding a burning truck over a cliff in The Living Daylights, the bungee jump and plane recovery in Goldeneye, the culmination of the speedboat chase on the hot air balloon in The World is Not Enough, the theft of a nuclear-armed plane just in time to evade a bomb in Tomorrow Never Dies, the hovercraft chase culminating over a waterfall in Die Another Day and the precedent-setting openings of The Spy Who Loved Me (30,000 foot ski jump with parachute) and Moonraker and finally the flight of the plane being chased by a missile through the plane hanger in Octopussy, every single one of these can be correctly described as "death-defying".

Again, I associate the phrase "elaborate stunts" with what Buster Keaton does. They're impressive, but the extended advance setup (as implied by that phrase) is visible to the viewer and as such I think it is less appropriate than "death-defying" in this context.

Regards, --WickerGuy (talk) 14:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, we're good with the wording. However, your note has me wondering if the phrase "death-defying" is more overused over in the UK where you reside than in the US where I am (or if the phrase seems even more over-exposed due to the recent Gillian Armstrong film). I don't see it as cliched, but perhaps it is in your neck of the woods. Best, --WickerGuy (talk) 22:02, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Settled and wondering

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ndash
Personnel lists are supposed to use n-dash between the name and the instrument, etc. Please stop changing that, and repair the ones you have changed. &mdash; John Cardinal (talk) 19:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, sounds good. You've been doing a lot of good work (I review just about every edit to any Beatle-related article) on the With The Beatles thing and other changes. I thought I saw a case where I changed colons to en-dashes and you changed it back&mdash;and that's why my tone above is hardly warm&mdash;but I must have been mistaken. Sorry about that. &mdash; John Cardinal (talk) 20:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Removal question.
Hi,

Why did you remove the section I entered regarding the proposed film of The Box of Delights?


 * Simply because it was unsourced. Please add it back if you have a citation. Chris 42 (talk) 12:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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Fair use rationale for File:Yesminister9.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Yesminister10.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Yesminister11.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Yesminister14.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Yesminister18.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Yesminister21.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Totalfilm.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Kennethwilliams.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Zooquest.jpg
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Fair use rationale for File:Histofbritain.jpg
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