User talk:Chris G/Archives/2009/July

Chris G Bot 3
Hi Chris, is there a reason that bot is running without a bot flag? I realize it doesn't do any fast editing, but I couldn't find anything on the current flagging of the bot. Bots/Requests for approval/Chris G Bot 3 is way out of date and doesn't describe the current tasks. I don't want to create a lot of work for you, but it might be best to resend it through brfa with the current tasks. - Taxman Talk 15:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It has been approved for the current task. It was deflagged when I retired earlier this year and was never reflagged when I came to my senses and returned. -- Chris 08:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahh, there's the link. Sounds good. I've reflagged it based on the prior approval and non controversial performance. - Taxman Talk 17:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Redirects
Bot-deleting broken redirects to categories is a bad idea. If the category was renamed you end up deleting a perfectly good redirect that could have just been retargeted. E.g this Gurch (talk) 16:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The bot now ignores redirects to categories. -- Chris 08:35, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Modified and included your wikipedia class
Hello Chris, I included and slightly altered the class wikipedia class you once wrote and wanted to notify you about it. It currently resides on https://cyanox.nl/noxbot/trunk/contrib/mediawiki.php. It will be used to automaticly generate the documentation with regards to the bots commands based on the actual source code of those commands. Later it may also be used for interaction other things. I removed the http class which depended on cURL which is not always installed so I made it use my already written request class. I hope you find this information useful or informational and Thanks for the class. Greetings [mailto:mark@cyanox.nl Mark Sanders (aka CyaNox)] 77.249.62.218 (talk) 20:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Advice needed
Per User talk:Vianello (permalink), an admin from the Vietnamese Wikipedia could use some advice about dealing with page-move vandals. Since the admin that was asked doesn't know what to do to combat this vandalism, I've contacted you to see if you can give him some advice. If you can help, please reply at User talk:Vinhtantran (to keep discussion centralized since I've posted this message at the talk pages of several admins). Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:34, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Block
Why did you block me? 99.146.98.120 (talk) 04:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Impersonating an admin along with unacceptable edit summaries -- Chris 08:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Protected
Chris, just letting you know I've semi'd your talk page temporarily due to a vandalism flood while you were offline. ~ mazca  talk 11:25, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not offline :) But thanks -- Chris 11:26, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned talkpage deletion bot Problem
Somebody (or somebodies, I haven't looked into who yet) has configured ClueBot III incorrectly for talk page archiving. This has caused ClueBot III to archive a whole bunch of talk pages at "Talk:Page 1" instead of "Talk:Page/Archive 1". Your bot is deleting those archive pages. This is content that really needs to be kept and moved to the correct place. ClueBot III should protect against this, but it would also be good for your bot to check for this. If a page is created by one of the archiving bots and is linked to from another page (especially from ClueBot's index pages), it's probably something that needs to be fixed vs. deleted. There are quite a few pages that need restoration and fixing. I'll put a similar note at ClueBot III's talk to ask it's operator to put a check in place. I'll also post a note at WP:AN to see if people want to help with the clean-up. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Responded at AN. -- Chris 02:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Chris G Bot 3
Could you take a look? – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 06:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Should be fixed. -- Chris 08:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

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File:Old man of hoy2.jpg
No, it is no longer on Main Page. You can't see it on MP, can you? --BorgQueen (talk) 12:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose you are offline. I've deleted it for you. --BorgQueen (talk) 12:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

More infos, pls! And why deleting?
I just stumbled about the fact that there is a bot deleting orphaned talk pages. But where is more info about what he does? And did the community approve this? Lastly, why delete pages, instead of listing the links on the user pages, which looks like a much more helpful approach to me? Gray62 (talk) 10:15, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes she (bots are like ships :P) is approved. "why delete pages, instead of listing the links on the user pages" why waste admin time when a bot can do just as good a job? There is a shortage of admins so any bot that can help clear out the backlogs is a good idea IMO. -- Chris 11:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thx, Chris, but you somewhat miss my point - why delete the pages, instead of linking them on the talk page? This way they wouldn't be orphaned anymore, and it may very well be that they are used frequently as reference by editors who have  bookmarked them. Afaics the bot only checks if those pages are changed regularly, not if they are accessed regularly, so deleting them could cause frustration for the editors of those articles. The bot could create the links automagically, no admin intervention needed. And then, why isn't the approval of your Bot 3 linked to in her infobox, like you did at the userpage of Chris G Bot 2? Isn't the link mandatory? And why is there no mention of User:Chris G Bot and User:Chris G Bot 2 on your userpage, only for the two others? Really, how many bots do you run?Gray62 (talk) 17:40, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The bot deletes a different kind of orphaned page than you're thinking of, it deletes orphaned talkpages (i.e. a talkpage with no main article.). No it is not mandatory to link to a bots approval on its userpage. I keep a list of all the bots I run here. -- Chris 01:45, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk page vandalism
I just saw that you had deleted some vandalism on other talk pages, popped over to ask you how to do it, and found your page vandalised, so I've restored it and semi-protected it for 3 days. How do you 'permanently' delete edits? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 10:40, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the protections :) To delete individual edits like I did you delete the page, then do a selective restore without the vandalized revisions (soon we'll have a better way of doing this when the dev enable the revdelete feature for sysops). -- Chris 11:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Anything that makes it easier and quicker to do our work is welcome!. This particular vandal was very active last night, if he comes back I'm going to semi-protect the articles he's attacking. Dougweller (talk) 13:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

OTDB deleted a talk page to an article that exists
Talk:Ed Dickson was deleted today, the article has existed for over a week. So why was it deleted? tedder (talk) 01:56, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Um, you need to stop the bot. I looked through the trial log and it seems to be widespread- not all, but perhaps over 50%. tedder (talk) 01:58, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * FYI, out of 19 pages the bot deleted today, 79% of them were bad. tedder (talk) 05:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Please see this post. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:59, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Responded on ANI. -- Chris 06:31, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Chris! tedder (talk) 13:39, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I was surprised when talk:Slash distribution was deleted. Fortunately someone restored it. Is there some reason why this is happening? Michael Hardy (talk) 23:19, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Michael Hardy, see McMcBride's post to ANI. Basically, Chris G's bot was seeing bad data and making the decision based on that bad data. Here's ChrisG's response to the ANI thread: the bot is shut off. tedder (talk) 01:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I think this is still a problem. The talk page to Lucius Manlius Torquatus was deleted and though it may be a disgraceful undeserving article, it exists. --15lsoucy (talk) 05:46, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Check the deletion date - 'July 12'. That page is from the same batch of incorrectly deleted pages mentioned above. -- Chris 08:56, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

feature request
When your bot updates User:Orphaned talkpage deletion bot/Trial, can you have it also put in a link to the article name? It's a nice doublecheck that the article itself is a redlink. Thanks! tedder (talk) 11:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Chris 11:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm really concerned with the amount of time it takes you to respond. 7 minutes for a response and code changes? :-) (a teasing way of saying "thank you very much") tedder (talk) 11:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Following up- I see the bot updated the trial page, and all the articles are redlinks. So much faster than having to click and verify- thanks. tedder (talk) 00:17, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Steamship Atlantic
hi there,

I just noticed that Talk:Steamship Atlantic was deleted by this bot. I had some web addresses there that I hoped to use as references for a future article, which I had not bookmarked anywhere else. Is it possible to recover the text from the deleted page? Mike McGregor (Can) (talk) 00:01, 16 July 2009 (UTC) -- Chris 01:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * http://www.shipwreckcentral.com/vessel_detail.php?rid=567
 * http://www.shipwreckworld.com/weblink/the-atlantic-shipwreck-story-lake-erie-shipwreck.aspx
 * http://www.treasurenet.com/forum/shipwrecks/messages/1002578.shtml
 * http://www.norwayheritage.com/articles/templates/great-disasters.asp?articleid=33&zoneid=1
 * http://www.kwic.com/~pagodavista/atlantic.html
 * http://www.aptvs.org/catalog.nsf/0/26AFCA64E400B98085256928005861A5?OpenDocument

Great, Thanks! Mike McGregor (Can) (talk) 05:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

you can use the Nazareth Flag I created it and I'll even thank u of u will put it in other pages of Nazareth in wikipedia you can also use the better photos that I putted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anan Maalouf (talk • contribs) 13:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Bot help
Chris - Please help. I'm trying to write a bot for a non-wikimedia wiki site. I sent you an email via Wikipedia if you could take a look when you get a moment. I'd really appreciate any help. v/r---TParis00ap (talk) 13:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied. -- Chris 08:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Bot has Malfunctioned
This bot has malfunctioned and there is no button on the user page I can click to stop the bot. The bot left a message on my talk page saying that the image I uploaded on the Didymochlaena truncatula page violates copyright. It doesn't though. I took the picture myself at a botanical garden and released it into the public domain as is clearly stated on the info page associated with the picture. Please correct this mistake.Chhe (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Um you added the PD tag after the bot tagged it for deletion. There is no malfunction here, this is how the bot is meant to work. -- Chris 04:47, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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function categorymembers
Should the first parameter take the form of "Category:Name of the category" or just "Name of the category"? &mdash;harej (talk) (cool!) 16:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It takes the form "Category:Name of the category". -- Chris 10:49, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Please explain my block
Chris, please explain here. Brangifer (talk) 00:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd actually appreciate some further discussion of the block in the ANI thread. Unless I am missing an aspect of the situation, which certainly is quite possible, I'm not immediately seeing a solid basis for this block. (Needless to say, I'm commenting as just one editor here, not in any other kind of capacity whatsoever.) Thanks, Newyorkbrad (talk) 03:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm with the others on this one, a more detailed explanation is warranted. Thanks, Nathan  T 13:57, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Responded on ANI. -- Chris 10:49, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Chris. I have replied on my talk page. Brangifer (talk) 04:04, 31 July 2009 (UTC)