User talk:Chrisjnelson/Archive 32

Pat White
Hey whats up? I didnt get to watch the game. But what happened to Pat White? I heard he got a helmet to helmet hit. Was it that bad? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stealthninja545 (talk • contribs) 23:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Jake Long GA
Thanks for your involvement in the development of Jake Long which has become a WP:GA in recent months.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

FAs
I don't know which team is more of a blank slate, looking at their rosters now: STL or KC. If KC trades Bowe and/or Dorsey, I think they'll take the cake, although at least they have a QB.  Pats 1  T / C  00:43, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Haha.

Also, you have my sympathies on Wes Welker and his torn vagina. Good thing he's the most replaceable player in football.► Chris Nelson Holla! 00:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * We haven't talked about him in a while, but somehow I knew you were going to say that.  Pats 1  T / C  00:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Serves the cocky little bitch right. Miami has three receivers that can do what he does in New England (obviously Ginn not being one of them). Mike Furrey's done what he does. Julian Edelman, a rookie college QB, can do what he does. The love for him is ridiculous. It's David Eckstein syndrome - the media and fan obsession with scrappy, little, trie-hard white guys.► Chris Nelson Holla! 00:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * There's some truth there. Some media members around here feel the same way. Others gush. Never like to see an injury like that though...  Pats 1  T / C  02:55, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * What are you guys doing at OLB this offseason?  Pats 1  T / C  03:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? What do I think Miami does? I think Anderson and Wake (especially Wake) obviously stick as situation pass-rushers. I believe Porter could be cut due to high salary, age and one-dimensional play (sucks against run). JT was very good in all facets and I'd love another one-year deal similar to this one, and I don't see why Miami wouldn't do it. We obviously need another young guy to develop if Wake's not going to be well-rounded enough to start full time (sucks in coverage) so I'd expect an OLB in the draft within first three rounds.► Chris Nelson Holla! 04:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Pats will also focus on that. Thomas will be out the door ASAP, and Burgess and Woods probably won't be back. They extended TBC and Ninkovich; TBC will start at OLB, but they still need another guy, or even two, at OLB. Sounds like they may trade for someone, or draft someone early. WR was a need before this weekend (Galloway flopped, so they had no #3 WR), and it will obviously be a bigger need now. Someone also said the Pats like Spiller, but it would be tough to get him. They'll probably do some tweaking at RB - Maroney may be gone.  Pats 1  T / C  16:33, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Spiller is more of a luxury pick than a RB solution. I could see a team like the Giants or Steelers getting him - a team without a big list of glaring needs. Spiller might end up being Reggie Bush 2.0 - good receiver, returner, situational back, but not a feature guy.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Giants and Steelers are not really in to splashy guys, there too old school. Run/pass block, harding runing and not comiting stupid plays.  Osi  tadinma  21:55, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The Giants have 5 RBs so I'm not so sure they'd get another one.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 21:58, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * My point was just that the Giants don't have many glaring weaknesses and are pretty sound at every position (despite their recent troubles).


 * Also, the Giants may have five backs (like most teams do in the offseason) but only two are worth anything right now and one of those guys (Jacobs) had a very sub-par year.► Chris Nelson Holla! 22:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * That may be all the Pats need though. Not that they have anything special at RB, but once you mix in Morris and Taylor, you have a nice group there. Faulk too.  Pats 1  T / C  23:08, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, probably one of the worst groups in the league. Not a legit starter in the bunch. Though neither is Spiller. Morris is better suited as a backup, and so is Taylor at this point in his career (which I'm sure won't last much longer as RBs in his position fade FAST). Not saying it can't work that way, with just a bunch of decent guys that can do different things, but just saying the Pats don't have a legit No. 1.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:10, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Most teams don't. RB by committee seems to be the trend now.  Pats 1  T / C  00:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * There's a difference between Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams or DeAngelo Williams/Jonathan Stewart. All four of those guys are legit No. 1 backs if needed. The Pats don't have any of guys on that level. You have a handful of No. 2's and third-down backs.► Chris Nelson Holla! 01:04, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Who needs a RB when you got Tom Brady. The Dolphins have Chad "hurt shoulder" Pennington and the Panthers have Jake "no good, Tommy John" Delhomme. They need RB's.  Osi  tadinma  01:20, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * That was horribly unfunny and strangely bitter for a Giants fan. Obviously the Patriots can get away without a star back because they have a great line, QB, Randy Moss and head coach. I was just pointing out the lack of a stud No. 1 back. Never said it was vital.


 * Also, Pennington isn't Miami's quarterback. Future Pro Bowler Chad Henne is.► Chris Nelson Holla! 04:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Bitter, I think we have a hell of a QB and two good RB when healthy (Which none of them were this year). And I think Henne will never be a pro bowler since 1) Miami runs a more unorthodox offense and 2) Manning, Brady, Rivers, heck even Schaub are still around. Who do you want to set out of the Pro Bowl every year so Henne can get in?  Osi  tadinma  04:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Did you even watch a Dolphins game this year? They aired it out on numerous occasions. Henne had a few 50+ attempt games.► Chris Nelson Holla! 14:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Not all of us Giants fans are bitter, some of us choose to blame the defensive coordinator and apparently some of us choose to blame quarterbacks who we never faced this year. Also, while I haven't watched many Dolphins games the few plays I've seen of Henne show me that he could become a top quarterback within a few years.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 21:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that is why I said unorthodox, most teams don't pass the ball 50+ times, including the Giants. Then you get in trouble with that.  Osi  tadinma  20:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Why don't you stick to talking about what you know...whenever you find out what that is.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

AF1 players
Hey I'd be willing to help out updating the articles for players currently on an AF1 roster if you need it. Cheers,-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 20:18, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * That'd be good. The league is releasing daily transaction logs here, so the rosters I've made so far are based on team sites that have 2010 rosters listed, plus the league transactions. Don't be fooled by some team sites rosters - some say 2009 and some are from when they were part of af2 or another arena league.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

well yea...
Yea because mostly when I edit, Its when Im about to fall asleep and stuff. I dont have a lot of time during the day because of homework. So Im mostly not paying attention. Sorry If I do. Im human. GO DOLPHINS. Stealthninja545 (talk) 21:11, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

LaRod Stephens-Howling
I'm not sure why the article needs a link to his Twitter account, nor what the edit summary "dumb" is supposed to mean. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:49, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Because the presence of such a link is obviously useful to his encyclopedia entry. Hence, the decision to remove it was dumb.► Chris Nelson Holla! 05:03, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't see how a link to his Twitter account is useful, even if it is his official account. Twitter is not the best place to get encyclopedic information about a person. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:12, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Check out the TfD nomination from 2009, the outcome showed that Twitter was an apporopiate link.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 20:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I did see that TfD. IMO, the reason it was not deleted is that there are a few instances (not always) when a Twitter link is appropriate, and that template should be used in those cases. That the TfD was closed as a keep is not prima facie evidence that Twitter links are acceptable in all bios. If Chris (or anybody else) can explain to me how Stephens-Howling's Twitter is necessary, I will be happy to let the issue go. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * It's almost like an official website for NFL players. Some NFL players have official websites, others have Twitters.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  20:27, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I think we should hold off putting that account on his page until Twitter verifies that it is official.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  20:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I've removed it because it appears there's some "talk" about it being a fake. Until confirmation (which I doubt twitter'll do, guess you could ask Beanie Wells or Fitzgerald) please don't re-add.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 21:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


 * LaQuinn Stephens (his brother) said that the account is fake.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  21:31, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Height/weight
Why did you re add the height and weight for retired players? I dont see the point of having the weight they played with their final year, It most likely changed since the beginning of their career, so what makes the final weight any more special than the first weight.--Yankees10 00:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Any listed weight from their career is good, it gives the reader an idea what kind of player they were. Why do you think Pro Football Reference lists them? It's good info. It's worth knowing right off that bat that Dan Marino was 6-4, 220 as opposed to Doug Flutie-size.► Chris Nelson Holla! 15:04, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Gonzalez
Have you ever thought new town, new name? Originally the Orioles listed him as Mike, then Michael. Now why would they do that? Is it immoral for him to call himself Michael?  Osi  tadinma  01:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * No, but it doesn't apply fit WP:COMMONNAME.► Chris Nelson Holla! 15:03, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

FAs
Thanks for picking up my slack there. I've been lazy and/or busy.  Pats 1  T / C  04:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


 * No, problem, little homie.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:42, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

How "wiki" works
Yes I do, do you know who Dshibshm is? The user that posts everything false. I would need a secondary source to confirm the edits for him. If you could confirm the edits or find a secondary source that would be awesome.

P.S. Do you hate me? Cuz I hate you :)  Osi  tadinma  01:40, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jerry Babb


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Heads up
User:Beast from da East has been removing practice squad teams and CFL teams and any team besides NFL teams that they played for in Infoboxes. Like he discussed here (but no consensus was ever reached). I have reverted several of his edits, but there appears to be alot of them. Keep an eye out. RF23 (talk) 03:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ridiculous. Revert him.► Chris Nelson Holla! 04:58, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Pats
Any reason you reverted my changes to the Patriots templates? The change was discussed here and here. ~ Richmond 96   t  •  c   05:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Not every team has silver as an accent color. The Pats do, and thus using the silver makes it more "Patriots-colored."► Chris Nelson Holla!
 * You're right it does give it a more "Patriots-look", but all other team templates in the entire league have white as the font color. I think that should continue here. ~ Richmond 96   t  •  c   15:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * There's no basis for that.► Chris Nelson Holla! 16:18, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, silver is fine. ~ Richmond 96   t  •  c   17:00, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Foley
So he is a LB or DE? He's on the roster twice now.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  17:49, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * LB.-- Giants 27  ( Contribs  |  WP:CFL ) 19:07, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

3RR
Please see my comment at WP:AN3. Thanks TigerShark (talk) 23:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

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Bodden
Here you removed Charles Grant from the Saints roster even though Schefter said that they were going to release him the following day. Is there a double standard now?  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


 * There were reports at the time it had happened. The reports on Bodden have been contradicted by saying it certainly has not happened yet, which is why we go with that.► Chris Nelson Holla! 03:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Darius Raynaud
Where did you find his new number? It's not on the official site. RevanFan (talk) 15:23, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

► Chris Nelson Holla! 15:27, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Ironically
Your friend removed my comment about personal attacks. Dloh  cierekim  21:54, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

RE: Edwards
I really do need to work on not being so stupidly stubborn. I wanted to wait and see what the Panthers listed him at- but since they list him as a WR (not a WR/QB like Isiah Staanback for the pats) He's a WR. You were correct, i was stupid. RF23 (talk) 23:58, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry I was harsh, you just have to know the situation. Obviously with Moore, Clausen, Cantwell (and later, Pike) the Panthers weren't picking up Edwards to be a QB.► Chris Nelson Holla! 01:08, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Tank Daniels
I understand the whole deal with Tank Daniels now. I'm sorry I didn't get it before. RevanFan (talk) 04:19, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Roethlisberger
Yikes, BLP applies everywhere.  Grsz 11  20:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me.► Chris Nelson Holla! 21:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I figured that much.  Grsz 11  21:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Please don't do that in edit summaries. And FYI: Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents.--Chaser (talk) 22:30, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

A. J. Edds
You got so mad when they gave him #54, but were happy when they gave him #49. What's the deal with you, the Dolphins, and #54? RevanFan (talk) 21:59, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Maybe you've heard of him?► Chris Nelson Holla! 22:00, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah. He was on Dallas for a year. I don't see what the big deal is. His # isn't retired, or anything. I know he was great for Miami, but his # isn't retired. Yet, anyway. RevanFan (talk) 22:03, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * The point is it will be, and he will be in the Hall of Fame one day, so the number should never be issued in the mean time. It'd be like the Cowboys issuing 8 or 22. They aren't retired, but you still don't do it.► Chris Nelson Holla! 22:08, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * They issue 20, 33, 54, 70, 74 (for preseason only) and 88. RevanFan (talk) 22:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Okay...► Chris Nelson Holla! 04:21, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

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Template policy discussion
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Baseball stubbing
Do you know anyone who likes to stub out baseball articles? I am experimenting with All-American articles and have created 1991 College Baseball All-America Team. I am trying to figure out if there is anyone who likes to stub out redlinks if I start creating these.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Francisco Rodríguez (baseball, born 1982)
Please weigh in -- Y not? 15:03, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

NFL roster templates
Why the heck would we put Mc before Ma? I thought we were going in alphabetical order? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RevanFan (talk • contribs) 20:28, 27 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Alphabetically, Mc comes before Ma because Mc is technically short for "Mac".► Chris Nelson Holla! 21:00, 27 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Mc is not short for Mac. They are completely different. RevanFan (talk) 01:05, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You're wrong. Look it up.► Chris Nelson Holla! 01:06, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I have started a discussion at WP:MOS regarding this dispute here if you are interested.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  01:29, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

This has got to be the lamest edit war I've ever seen
Please tell me you've seen worse, I can't believe my own eyes: Talk:JaMarcus Russell

I think I've lost some faith in society as a whole. This is a new low. RF23 (talk) 00:41, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Mac vs. Mc
Read all posts in this link and state your decision. RevanFan (talk) 02:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#.22Mac_vs._Mc.22_Discussion_again RevanFan (talk) 02:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

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James Williams (cornerback)
Hi Chris, I was looking through articles that use the college football template and found James Williams (cornerback), which you created last year. Do you have any information on where he went? I found, which is another cornerback named James Williams that we don't seem to have an article on (the latter was drafted in 2001) but I can't find anything about the James Williams cornerback that is the subject of this article. --B (talk) 05:03, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah it looks like he didn't make it. The article can probably be deleted.► Chris Nelson Holla! 13:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

That was a valid point about Rainn Wilson (confirmed with a quote by him)...help me to understand why you deleted it.
I understand the concern about living people, but you are not his publicist.

I guess I'll go over to Mel Gibson's page and see if he gets the same deference--if so,I've made my last donation.

tenmilekyle (talk) 02:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


 * It's just not relevant to his life. Wikipedia isn't for every little detail.► Chris Nelson Holla! 03:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Just leave me alone
Title says it all. RevanFan (talk) 02:47, 20 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Waaaaaaaaaaaaah.► Chris Nelson Holla! 04:11, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Forget I said anything. I just needed to calm down. RevanFan (talk) 04:43, 20 August 2010 (UTC)