User talk:Chrismd00

April 2023
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Fenugreek, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. The journal Phytotherapy Research is not a reliable source for biomedical content; see WP:MEDRS. Zefr (talk) 04:32, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I was citing meta-analysis sources, which is the highest level of medical evidence. The information on Fenugreek posted in this article, saying there is not evidence for therapeutic benefit is outdated at least as of 2016. Seven years later, there is much more evidence and this outdated article needs to be updated Chrismd00 (talk) 05:25, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Fenugreek, you may be blocked from editing. Slow down and read WP:MEDRS - that defines the quality of sourcing needed. Zefr (talk) 05:17, 23 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Meta-analysis published in the National Library of Medicine showing statistically high powered data that Fenugreek extract raises total serum testosterone in males. Anahita Mansoori et al. 2020 Chrismd00 (talk) 05:29, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Meta analysis published in a well respected scientific journal that reviews 11 other studies and pools the data for increased statistical power with results in the 95 percent confidence interval is the best medical evidence we have. This article is outdated and misleading Chrismd00 (talk) 05:33, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * 1. This source is not published by the US National Library of Medicine (PubMed is only a listing service) but by Wiley in the journal, Phytotherapy Research; 2. high-quality clinical research would not be published in Phytotherapy Research, a low-ranking journal which typically does not publish good studies from human clinical trials. See WP:MEDASSESS for how to discern sources pertaining to human health and disease treatment. No reputable clinical organization or government regulatory agency recommends use of fenugreek for anything.
 * The article is up to date and accurate for current encyclopedic content on human health. Zefr (talk) 14:45, 23 April 2023 (UTC)