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Nomination of Soft mouth for deletion
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Nomination of Canis lupus dingo for deletion
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"Canis aquaticus" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Canis aquaticus. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 15 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. TheAwesome Hwyh  18:42, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi
Sup? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.148.202 (talk) 18:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Galidiinae
Malagasy Mongoose; actual mongoose or mistake? Malagasy Carnivore

UPLOAD FILE practice
Image courtesy of themandus.org Copyright: themandus.org Neanderthal reconstruction courtesy of themandus.org

When is a wolf not a wolf?
Answer: when it's a dog. When is a dog not a dog? A: When it's a dingo. When is a dingo not a dingo? A:When it's an Asian dingo. When does a dingo become just a dog? A:No exact place.

Dog News~
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v464/n7290/full/nature08837.html

examples

 * 1) Hyenas are the animals of the family Hyaenidae
 * 2) Hyenas (Hyaenidae), are a family of carnivores.

Indian_pariah_dog article
Hi Chris,

I have edited the Indian pariah dog article, tried to clean it up. But the clean up message in the heading still seems to be there... any suggestions?

Dog Synonyms
Accepted by MSW3:

(Linnaeus, 1758)
 * Canis aegyptius Peruvian Hairless
 * Canis aquaticus Poodles and other waterdogs
 * Canis domesticus The common farm dog
 * Canis familiaris Common feral streetdogs, assumed to be the pool from which all others were bred
 * Canis fricatrix No idea. The word means "lesbian dog." Bizzare.
 * Canis graius Wolfhounds
 * Canis mastinus Molossers
 * Canis melitaeus Lapdogs of the European nobility
 * Canis mustelinus Badger dogs
 * Canis sagax Hounds

(Gmelin, 1792)
 * Canis americanus Native American Dogs
 * Canis anglicus Old English Bulldogs
 * Canis antarcticus Dusicyon australis.  Very confusing term, as it also meant Dingo at another point in time (1792, Robert Kerr).
 * Canis aprinus Catch dogs
 * Canis aquatilis Poodles and other waterdogs
 * Canis avicularis Pointers
 * Canis brevipilis English spaniels
 * Canis cursorius Grayhounds bred for racing
 * Canis extrarius Continental spaniels
 * Canis fricator Pugs and such
 * Canis fuillus German boar hunting dogs
 * Canis gallicus Means "French dogs", but which?
 * Canis grajus continental hunting grayhounds
 * Canis hibernicus Irish wolfhounds, Scottish deerhounds, and such
 * Canis hirsutus heavily furred slavic wolfkillers
 * Canis hybridus The Roquet
 * Canis islandicus Islandic dogs, Greenland dogs, and such
 * Canis italicus Small Italian Grayhound bred to follow you and stay out of trouble
 * Canis laniarius Lurchers
 * Canis leoninus Lowchens
 * Canis major No clue
 * Canis melitacus Mediterranian upperclass lapdogs
 * Canis minor Small waterdogs
 * Canis molossus Molossers
 * Canis obesus Name means "the fat dog"  No clue
 * Canis orientalis Perisan Grayhounds
 * Canis plancus means "howling dogs" Bay dogs?
 * Canis pomeranus Keeshounds, Chows and such
 * Canis scoticus Scottish Grayhounds
 * Canis sibiricus Huskies and such
 * Canis turcicus No clue.  Name means "Turkish dog" and was supposedly pug-nosed
 * Canis variegatus Harlequin Dogs
 * Canis venaticus Middle Eastern Sighthounds
 * Canis vertegus Turnspits

(C. E. H. Smith, 1839)
 * Canis alco New World feral dogs
 * Canis borealis Eskimo dogs
 * Canis ferus Old world feral dogs
 * Canis glaucus "The Great Cur of Eastern Europe" WTF???
 * Canis haitensis Feral dogs from Hispaniola
 * Canis leporarius Ancient Middle Eastern sighthounds
 * Canis pacificus "The Poi Dog, the Uri-Mahoi of Tahiti and Ilio of the Sandwich Islands"
 * Canis sagaces Scenthounds, or hounds in general
 * Canis sanguinarius A breed of agressive mantracking scenthounds, maybe bloodhound-types
 * Canis suillus Suilot Dogs and other pig catchers
 * Canis terraenovae Retrievers?
 * Canis terrarius Terriers
 * Canis urcani Mollosers

(Krumbiegel, 1950)
 * Canis hagenbecki or Chrysocyon hagenbecki Never existed. Humilliating mistake or hoax or some such.  Was supposed to be a new species but he'd only been sold an old sheepdog skin from a shyster who convinced him it was a mysterious "Andian Wolf".  Everyone would like to just forget it ever happened.

taxonmic synonyms for Homo sapiens
taxon = Homo sapiens authority = Linnaeus, 1758 subdivision_ranks = Subspecies subdivision = Homo sapiens idaltu Homo sapiens sapiens Species synonymy |aethiopicus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 |americanus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 | arabicus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 |australasicus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 | cafer Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 | columbicus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 | hottentotus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 | hyperboreus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 |indicus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 |japeticus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 |melaninus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 | neptunianus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 | patagonus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 | scythicus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825 |sinicus Bory de St. Vincent, 1825
 * synonyms =

|aurignacensis Klaatsch & Hauser, 1910

|capensis Broom, 1917

|cro-magnonensis Gregory, 1921 |grimaldiensis Gregory, 1921

|drennani Kleinschmidt, 1931

|eurafricanus (Sergi, 1911)

|grimaldii Lapouge, 1906 |priscus Lapouge, 1899

| monstrosus Linnaeus, 1758

|palestinus McCown & Keith, 1932

|proto-aethiopicus Giuffrida-Ruggeri, 1915

|spelaeus Lapouge, 1899 | troglodytes Linnaeus, 1758 |wadjakensis Dubois, 1921 | bory de vincent's list

Carl_Linnaeus#Views_on_mankind
Europaeus albus

Americanus rubescens

Asiaticus fuscus

Africanus niger

Basenji usurps the New Guinea Singing Dog as most ancient breed.
Superlatives attributed to the NGSD are unfounded. The closest dog to the wolf is the Basenji, according to this tree:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v464/n7290/fig_tab/nature08837_F1.html

Envision the dog family tree: herding dogs, and the sighthounds; There are very few breeds which do not share this common ancestor, other than very ancient dogs.
 * 1) Having to start somewhere, let’s start with my Spaniel, Casey.
 * 2) His family twig on the tree, we know, is traceable back to Obo II,
 * 3) Obo's parents cleave with the English Cocker Spaniel, cocker spaniel in general,
 * 4) Which cleaves with the Springer Spaniel branch, something like a Welsh Spaniel, which is intermediate between springer and cocker.
 * 5) Which shared a common ancestor with the common ancestor of the other hunting spaniels,
 * 6) Which shared a common ancestor with lap dog King Charles Spaniel
 * 7) Which meets the water spaniel branch sometime before that split
 * 8) And then meets the shared common ancestor of the Spaniels and the Britney, (which also lent DNA to the German Shorthair Pointer)
 * 9) Before meeting the common ancestor of the spaniels and the scenthounds
 * 10) Which shared a common ancestor with the poodles,
 * 11) Going further back in time, we meet the common ancestor of all these hunting dogs with the main branch of Lap dogs,
 * 12) Which share a common ancestor with the pincher/schnauzer / Portuguese water dog branch,
 * 13) Next we meet another large main branch of dogs, including molossers, terriers, Retreivers,
 * 1) We next meet the common ancestor of the Ibizan hound and the Kuvasz,
 * 2) Then that shared a common ancestor with the Saluki/Afghan Hound
 * 3) Then we meet the common ancestor of some of Casey’s most distant relations alive today, including the New Guinea singing dog, Dingo, East Asian breeds such as the Chow Chow and Shar Pei and the Japanese Inus, and circumpolar sled dogs.
 * 4) Finally, we meet the dog that shares the most ancient common ancestor with Casey or any other living dog: The Basenji.

According to this, http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v464/n7290/fig_tab/nature08837_F1.html, the dog that shares the most ancient common ancestor with any other dog in the world is not the Dingo, not the NGSD, not the Inus, ancient Chinese dogs such as the Chow Chow, Nureongi, nothing.

Any further back in time, there is no living dog which is not a wolf.

Superlatives attributed to the NGSD are unfounded. The closest dog to the wolf is the Basenji, or rather the Basenji shares no common ancestor with any other dog alive on the planet.

The common ancestor of the Basenji and all other living dogs, may not have been a dog, it could have been a wolf. Or at least, there is no known living dog which proves this is was not the case.

Edible dogs
Edible dog breeds have resulted from the practice of breeding dogs for their meat. They are rarely formally recognized as dog breeds by interentional kennel clubs, but have been as products of some American Indian, east Asian and Pacific peoples during periods of their history when dogs were farmed for food.

List of Edible dog breeds
Edible dogs breeds include:
 * The Chinese edible dog, now known as the Chow-chow. The first English-language reports of a Chinese dog with black lips, mouth, and tongue reported that it was often kept in small enclosures and fattened with grain until being slaughtered and eaten while still young, and their pelts were kept to trim garments.  When shown publicly for the first time in 1870, it was called "The Chinese edible dog".

However, since then, the name was later changed to the "Chinese black-mouthed dog" when it was learned that the breed had many other uses in Chinese culture as well, including watch dog, livestock guardian dog, hunting dog and pulling carts and sleds. As the breed gained breeders and fanciers, the English name was changed to "Chow-chow" and finally "chow".


 * The Korean edible dog

Also known as the Nureongi, this edible dog breed exists in possibly large numbers generally only in Korea. Because this medium-sized yellowish Spitz-type dog is preferred by people who eat dogmeat in Korean culture, it continues to exist in probably large numbers despite other types of dogs may be found among the Nureongi in Korean dog farms and dining tables.


 * The Philippians edible dog.

The dog farmers of Igorot tribe of northern Luzon produced a dog that bred to type which looked somewhat like a very short-coated terrier which produced the best dogmeat according to the local culture. Although dog farming and eating was banned in the 1998, it remains unclear that neither the practice of dog-farming and -eating nor the edible dog breed no longer exist. It is also known a "the Korean native dog".


 * The Batak dog of Sumatra.

Dogmeat is not a feature of most cultures in Sumatra, or Indonesia but Batak tribe are an exception. Batek dogs, also known as the Batak spitze, have a uniform and distinct short and stocky spitz-type shape and curly tails, but come in many colors. While the Batek people have given up many of the beliefs and cultural practices of the hunter-gatherer ancestors, they have been slow to surrender their practice of eating Batak dogs.


 * The Kurī dog of the Maori of New Zealand was bred primarily for human consumption.

Also known as the guri, Mauri dog, or New Zealand native dog, dogmeat was one of the primary uses for which the dogs were bred. They


 * The Poi dog of Native Hawaiian cultures.

Along with the practice of dog meat consumption in Hawaiian cultures, this formerly common dog now seems to be extinct. While children played with the dogs and they were used in ceremonies, breeding motivated by meat production left a short, fat, docile dog that could subsist on starches and breadfruit.


 * The Large Indian dog.

Reports of this dog being bred for dogmeat by Native Caribbean and North American culture date back to the first historical records.

In an area of what is now north-west modern day Mexico, ceramic figures associated with the colima people were found of a dog similar to the Mexican Hairless but much fatter with much shorter legs. Experts believe that the dog was breed primarily for its meat.
 * The Colima dog


 * The Izcuintlipotzotli

Itzcuintlipotzotli


 * The Techichi


 * The Xoloitzcuintli


 * The Miniature Xoloitzcuintli


 * The Peruvian hairless dog


 * The Peruvian Inca Orchid


 * The Peruvian pug-nosed dog


 * The Khala, from Bolivia

Human evolution
Hi,i was thinking about the missing link in human evolution and why it has not been found,when i went to the time of the apes living happily in African jungles to the time when they could make tools and make rafts to leave Africa,would have to use "necessity is mother of invention" cliche, let us start with what could have been the beginning i think,firstly they must had to! it can not be from mainland Africa,so it must be from an island near Africa,so this is what i think happened,on some island in the jungle with many species,there was a fire through lightening,burnt their habitat,there were survivors but no food,so eventually they had to start foraging in burnt jungle and started eating burnt-half burnt or in some cases perfectly cooked (as we know now) food which enhanced their intellect enough to invent fire and then rafts and start moving away from the island, my logic is i can not imagine the apes,even over a period,decided to start eating cooked food,unfortunately we still nurture,i say unfortunately will be explained in my next article if anybody is interested in as this is the first stage as there are two more,we are in stage four now and it is a disaster,only good news is we can still can go back to stage three and hopefully have something to show for. P.S I only had to start learning IT to do shopping,emails,booking etc.,so no good at research or much else really.|||| — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gobindghar8 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Category:Catch dog breeds has been nominated for renaming
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MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WEATHERMAN
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A kitten for you, Chris, and boo!
Chris, kittens are prolly another word, I would guess without looking Germanic? which spread across the kiddies of many felids, though large felids borrow from their cousins like Bears and Dogs in some English words for their kids. ..

Chris, you were the last message to me before my 7 year hiatus from W. You thanked me for adding the Rabbit clan to the bottom of your list of Animal Articles about animals whose English names were not clade-tight nor derived from donor languages. So now I am of course making my thank you for your thank you my first message on a brief revisit to W, though I may not be very active this phase. Thank you, Chris!

Here's hoping you're well, have had a satisfying 7 years and will have many to come.

Pandelver (talk) 04:54, 23 December 2022 (UTC) 

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Minor planet articles that might pass NASTRO
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