User talk:Christineasbda

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Speedy deletion nomination of American Small Business Development Association


A tag has been placed on American Small Business Development Association, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Hello, I need to add an article for a non-profit company called ASBDA. However it got deleted. First I posted one it under my personal account called onechristine that got deleted for being too promotional. I therefore changed it to be only informational and then I created this account christineasbda as an account for the new company that I am working for. I tried to update it to be not promotional, but it got deleted regardless. I have done my best update again to make the article informational only and not promotional. Can you please delete any sentences that seem promotional and post the article. I promised that I would have it up this week. Secondly, ASBDA re-directs to a school band article, so can you please fix it to give users a choice of what they want to read? Thank you and here is what I wrote:

ASBDA stands for American Small Business Development Association.

COMPANY OVERVIEW - Founded in 2008, ASBDA is a membership based non-profit organization for individuals, families, and the small business community.

The ASBDA's goal is to protect and improve the business, health, and lifestyles of the small business community through providing its members with advice and savings on products and services that is typically used by the small business community.

HOW IT WORKS Similar to AARP or AAA memberships, the members of ASBDA receive discounts because they are part of a large group of thousands rather than purchasing products and services as individuals or small companies. The main focus of ASBDA is to advise members and help them cut costs on benefit packages that are typically more expensive working for a small company or as an independent contractor such as Retirement Plans, Health Insurance, Dental, Vision, Taxes, etc.

The ASBDA offers over 150 other benefits and resources to help their members including Legal Documents, Office Supplies, Travel, Dining, Shopping, Entertainment, Automotive, Groceries, Roadside Assistance, etc.

Currently the ASBDA supports the small business community in Michigan only, but it has plans to eventually go nationwide.

External Links --

OFFICIAL WEBSITE: http://asbda.org/

FACEBOOK: http://facebook.com/asbda.org

YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOqBOwtvdX-6ppObEAbf9XQ

GOOGLE: https://plus.google.com/114293092579770130255/about

Christineasbda (talk) 14:26, 13 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Christine. First off, please note that using multiple accounts is not permitted - I strongly suggest you stop using this account (since the username could be construed as a violation of the username policy) and place a note on its userpage linking to User:Onechristine, which you should use instead. Whichever account name you choose, you should stop using the other account entirely to avoid being blocked. You should also be aware that you seem to have a conflict of interest issue ("I promised that I would have it up this week" suggests that you have some sort of connection to the organisation, which you should disclose), which means that you should probably not be the person to create this article at all.
 * As to your article, the principle issue, quite aside from the promotional nature of the article and your conflict of interest, is the complete lack of reliable, independent sources. Wikipedia only hosts articles that meet our notability requirements; that is to say, they have been written about in sources that are independent of the subject, and these sources are reliably published (such as books, newspapers and scholarly journals). The organisations own website, facebook page and Youtube channel are not appropriate, and indeed, violate our policy on external links.
 * I suggest you do one of two things; either abandon the idea of creating the page yourself and list it at requested articles for an uninvolved editor to write, or start a draft at articles for creation, where your submission can be reviewed before it goes live. Most important of all, resolve the issue of your multiple accounts ASAP. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  15:16, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I started to write a reply, but Yunshui has covered pretty well what I was going to say. I would only add that:
 * we don't have company accounts, accounts are only for individual volunteers who are here to help build an encyclopedia,
 * Wikipedia is not a "notice-board" site like Myspace for people to write about themselves and their organizations. I think this ought to be explained to new users before they register, but it isn't; as a result, I have this conversation so often that I have written User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard to explain some of the background,
 * You may find the WP:FAQ/Organizations helpful, too.
 * Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:49, 13 December 2012 (UTC)