User talk:Chucboy

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Hello, Chucboy, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! Richard New Forest (talk) 11:51, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
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Ba-Shar
Hi Chuckboy. I've been watching your new article, and you've made quite a good start. I've tidied it a bit, and I thought I'd mention a few points which I hope you'll find helpful:
 * References. It needs some!  The two external links you listed won't do, I'm afraid: they have to be proper books or much more authoritative web pages.  See WP:Identifying reliable sources.
 * Refs should be linked in-line, not just stuffed in at the end.
 * Other than for refs, external links should generally be limited to pages of material which for some reason cannot be put in the article itself: see WP:EL. (They should also be done with bullet points, and should be headed "External links".)
 * I've converted the measurements units: WP needs to accommodate readers who use both imperial and metric. Have a look at Template:Convert for more.  Doesn't matter which goes first, but each article should be consistent.
 * Article titles and headings follow sentence case: capital initials are only used for the first word, and for proper nouns and their derivatives.
 * See my "clarification" query in the article (open the section for editing to read my hidden comment).
 * If you get spelling or grammar wrong, someone else has to correct it. If you're not sure how to spell "legitimate" or when to use "it's", look it up, don't just slap it down any-old-how.
 * Don't forget the "preview" button. If you save every small edit it can be difficult for other editors to keep track of your changes.

A more serious point is notability. WP article subjects must be shown to be notable, so we don't end up with millions of articles on "Fluffy my hamster" and so on. In the case of Ba-Shar that means there must be some independent reliable source which recognises this hybrid as more than just a name for an occasional accident.

I put a "prod" (quick deletion) tag on to raise this issue. You (I presume) removed it, which is fine, and the prod cannot be replaced: an article can only be prodded once.

However, I or anyone else can make a more formal proposal for deletion, an "AFD" (article for deletion). There will then be a discussion on the AFD page, and if notability cannot be shown, the article will be deleted. It would be a shame for you to spend a lot of time on the article if that was going to be the outcome, so I recommend that you start by finding good evidence for notability. Meanwhile I'll hold off a bit before proposing deletion...

Good luck! Richard New Forest (talk) 11:51, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Ba-Shar for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ba-Shar is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Ba-Shar until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. &mdash; anndelion    &#8251;   21:14, 8 April 2011 (UTC)