User talk:Chuchunezumi/Archive 1

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I appreciate your invitation to work with you on improving the articles relating to York County, South Carolina, and really hate to pass up the opportunity to work with a curmudgeon. However, the only edit I made on the York County page was to fix a disambiguous link; I don't have any knowledge of York County at all. Best of luck! Chidom 12:51, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

;>) !   By all means, if you've got info on the guy, write away. Otherwise, he'll probably get his stubby little page deleted in the near future. Maybe he visited York County once upon a day? (Hey, kill as many birds as you can with the least amount of ammo.)--Chidom 18:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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Vandalism warnings (to other user)
You said: "I just issued a 4th level warning for vandalism to User:68.4.18.69. While the user only had two previous vandalism warning tags, other users had left warnings in their own words, so I figured despite the lack of a tag, those should count.  Furthermore (this is the reason I'm writing you specifically), you yourself already temporarily banned this user for blatant copyright violations.  Do warnings need to be the official tags to count?  Should I have delivered a 3rd level warning in this case?  I just want to make sure I was doing this according to protocol.  Thanks so much for your help!"
 * No, hand-written warnings definitely count. Furthermore, even without hand-written warnings, you are allowed to skip the templates (e.g. go from test-n to test3-n) if the vandalism is bad.  --Yamla 20:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Greetings
Thank you for your greeting! I'm located next to York County, over in Cherokee County. The York County article looks great compared to what little I have been able to get done so far to Cherokee County. I look forward to working with you as well! Carolinian 00:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Fred Phelps
Regarding your source for the info, I'm looking at the date on it and it's dated after Wikipedia started disseminating that information. Is it not possible Wikipedia is the source for that article's content, and that it is not a reliable source? I'm not going to blind revert, but I think it's a point we need to consider here. Steve block Talk 21:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Good eye! I was trying to find something quickly, and I should have paid closer attention. I'm going to remove that part again and see if I can't find a more credible source. If the passage is correct, I should be able to find it on some fringe websites. Time to highten my security levels, eh? --Chuchunezumi 22:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Removing my comments
No worries about removing my comments on the anonymous user's discussion page. You said it much better than I could. --Yamla 19:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

RE: Flaafy
It wasn't me, it was someone who vandalized the info box, it was User:Garisonn, he vandalized a template, Pokémon species. The diff is found [here, cheers &mdash;[[User:Minun/PCP/Entrance| M ]] in un  Spiderman 19:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

User page
Hey there,

No idea how I came across your page now (must have clicked a signature somewhere!), but noticed the text on your user box doesn't wrap properly in my browser: the user boxes overlap the text as far as I can see. I'd be happy to fix it (it'll only take 5 minutes) for you, but otherwise thought you'd like to know about it!

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 16:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I think it's fixed now. It wasn't as simple as I first thought, so you may want to check it and perhaps revert it if necessary, but I tested it with NetScape, Opera, Internet Explorer and Firefox and it seemed to work fine.

If you want the monotype font back, (e.g. monotype font here), just ask, it's pretty simple to do! EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 18:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I got it as close as I could, but if you're still not happy I'll have another look! EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME 20:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Cannabis
Far from vandalising I was trying to fix the vandalism of an anon, take care before making false accusations as I will take care that my web browser doesnt mess up my vandalism fixes by checking the diffs afterwards.. Thanks. TVGH (formerly TV Genius) 16:06, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I am still baffled how the mistake occurred though clearly someone else had already fixed it and I hadnt realised and tried to fix it myself with disastrous consequences. Very irritating when you are trying to do the right thing and end up appearing to do what you hate. While my views on spam may be different from thje mainstream wikipedia view I would never knowingly vandalsie this project and was horrified to see your message this morning. TVGH (formerly TV Genius) 19:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk Page
Hi, they are already archived in the page history anyway for anyone to read if they want, so do I really have to create a archive page for a purpose already achieved. Roy Brumback 21:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Helpme question
After expanding Jacob Riis from a stub, I've discovered a reliable source that contradicts a fact from another reliable source, specifically Riis's first wife's maiden name. The first source is an article published in a British photographic magazine, and the other is written by the New York Public Library as the official guide to their Jacob Riis Notes collection, which is original documents and correspondence by (or to) Jacob Riis. I've searched for a third source but found nothing. I'm tempted to change the article to reflect the information from the New York Public Library, who, to me, seems the more reliable source. Ideas? Also, since this is one of the first few articles to which I've been doing major revisions, I wouldn't mind if someone took a glance and let me know how it is looking...I don't want a peer review, just a "don't worry, you aren't making a mess" (there are no co-contributors...the page was a stub for a long time before I started). Thanks for your attention! Cheers! --Chuchunezumi 23:22, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you can list both names in the article and state that two separate sources list separate information in a reference by using and adding a references/footnote section to state the fact that there is contradictory information. The closest that you can get to an official source is if you found the marriage license for the muckraker. Ryūlóng 23:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

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South Carolina stuff
Howdy, I've been fooling around with wikipedia for a while and have been working on a Lake Murray page recently and because of that, I have gotten more interested in the wiki community. I noticed the wikiproject page on South Carolina and just thought I'd see what I could do to get more involved with actual contributors on here. Look forward to hearing from you... grey ghost 02:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Fantastic to hear from you! I've seen little interest in any collaborative efforts with South Carolina pages except one other user whom I recently met, and have been unable to get down to business per se, both because of work in real life and my desire to complete a couple of pages I'd started and had practically finished on paper, but needed to be realized in cyberland.  I am quite aware of the need to expand several South Carolina-related articles, particularly for our Congressional delegation. What I would like to see is the three of us actually take over the blank shell that is WikiProject South Carolina and actually formulate a plan of action.  The page hasn't been seriously edited, save for my tiny contribution, in months.  Want to help plan this and then set out to tackle articles? Cheers! Chuchunezumi 03:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure! However, I must warn you, I have a demanding work life. More and more, this seems to be my meathod of unwinding. I like to think about home I suppose. Any help I can offer, I certainly will. -grey ghost 03:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar awarded!
Thanks mate! &mdash; RJH (talk) 14:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Tila Nguyen
This article was removed from the good articles list. --TheM62Manchester 16:39, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Why on earth are you telling me this? My suggestion is that you go the talk page and explain yourself, since I'm sure that the editors will care, whereas I do not.  This is not an appropriate place to make this announcement, and I am not the appropriate person to be notifying.  Cheers!  Chuchunezumi 17:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Apologies. --TheM62Manchester 20:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Helpme question
Is it considered in poor judgment to chanllenge the actions of an administrator? I reported someone for having what appears to be a vandalism only account, and the admin who responded said "no recent vandalism" despite the fact it had occurred on the same day and the day before. The account, from what I can see in the history, has never made a constructive edit (after a dozen or so, I stopped checking, but the trend was the same: most edits were to wrestlers' pages adding graphic sexual nonsense). Or does the childish personal attack that they made count as a constructive edit? The administrator's solution was to leave yet another warning (the IP's talk page is nothing but warnings and blocks). Is there some way I can ask that this IP be blocked indefinately? I thought that that administrators were supposed to do that to vandalism only accounts. Chuchunezumi 15:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * No, administrators should not be considered a 'class above' other editors. They are simply normal editors who have been given extra responsibilities and powers. Perhaps show a link to the edits where the vandalism occured? &mdash; D a  niel  (‽) 15:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Your thoughts on WikiProject LGBT studies
When you've got a few minutes, I was wondering if you'd take a look at my ideas regarding increasing participation in WikiProject LGBT studies? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Failing my Boton Doro article
I am really offended that you prematurely failed my Boton Doro article. You gave me a hold window of seven days, which would have finished tomorrow. I just spent a considerable amount of time updating the article as you requested, and when I logged onto the discussion page to announce the changes I discovered that you had already failed it.

Why did you establish a deadline you had no intention of keeping? They are ususally established for a reason, and people stick to them for a reason. I budgeted my time over the last week, collecting my sources and giving myself today to update the article in time for the deadline tomorrow.

In the future, if you establish a deadline with someone, stick to it. Don't jump the gun a day early for any reason whatsoever. MightyAtom 05:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * You can be offended all you'd like, but I really couldn't care less. After six days you hadn't made a single change.  Seven days is the maximum hold period, not an extension for you personally.  When did you budget the time for your article to be reread and critiqued?  Or was that not important?  Should I have simply failed you outright?  Furthermore, you don't get a rebuttal to a pass or fail.  If you had put the article up in proper form to be a good article, it would have passed.  Do the work next time and it won't be a problem, but don't pester me on my user page because an article fell short.  Wikipedia is a collaborative project, and if you had a timeline, you should have been keeping everyone on Wikipedia informed.  This is not YOUR article, you are just a major contributor.  You may refrain from telling me what I will and will not do in the future, and it is my suggestion you sit back and chill out a bit; if you had a question, you should have responded in good faith, not in a tantrum.  For goodness sake, all you have to do is relist the article!  Was behaving like this really necessary when you've lost absolutely nothing?  Chuchunezumi 17:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I apologize for the personal attack. It was inappropriate, made out of frustration, and had no business being included in my comments.  Definitely a lesson learned about wikipedia conduct.


 * I do hope that you can acknowledge your own inappropriate behavior as well. As a reviewer, you established two measurable criteria, a set of actions to be resolved by a certain calendar date. You did not mention seeing progress by a certain date, or any other criteria.


 * I accepted and maintained the established measure of success. I delivered the desired results by the established calendar day.  This should be a case where there were no problems whatsoever, a true win-win situation.


 * However, when you failed the article a day early, you broke faith with the agreement that you yourself had established.


 * If a professor at school had failed my project a day before the established deadline, or if my boss fired me a day before the established deadline on a project, then it would be considered their error and I would have recourse to go over their head or at least enter into a dialog of discussing the issue and hopefully reaching a mutually satisfactory agreement.


 * However, in an environment of "you don't get a rebuttal to a pass or fail" the editorial team is entirely at the capricious whims of the reviewer.


 * Obviously, this issue is just lost, with both of us acting poorly. However, in the future, I respectfully request that when you establish a guideline you keep it.  In return, I will pledge to cool down.


 * I do hope that you can acknowledge your own inappropriate behavior as well. As a reviewer, you established two measureable criteria, a set of actions to be resolved by a certain calendar date. You did not mention seeing progress by a certain date, or any other criteria.


 * Obviously, this issue is just lost, with both of us acting poorly. However, in the future, I respectfully request that when you establish a guideline you keep it.  In return, I will pledge to cool down.

MightyAtom 00:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The Abbeville Horror
Check out The Abbeville Horror and let me know what you think (it's not quite finished). BobbyLee 06:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Helpme question
When another user writes an uncivil, insulting comment about another user as User:MightyAtom did about me on Talk:Botan Doro, how does one go about getting it removed? Chuchunezumi 17:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind! Thanks to the kind editor who did it for me! Chuchunezumi 17:58, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've removed the attack part and left a warning for the user in question. Usually the best thing to do is ignore minor attacks as making a big deal of them often just makes things worse, however you can report personal attacks at WP:PAIN --pgk( talk ) 17:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)