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KTX ridership
Thank you again for your note on the KTDB data. I wanted to look at the raw data myself. Unfortunately, registration is not possible without a Korean ID number, so I hope you can help me.

First, can you tell me more about the raw data?
 * One data for each month (Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, etc.) or each quartal (Jan-Mar, Apr-Jun etc.)?
 * Are data given only station-to-station, or are there aggregates according to rail line or train service?
 * Is, for example, the "Gyeongjeon KTX" number 118,744 for 2010 you gave a sum of rides on KTX to and from Jinyeong, Changwonjungang, Changwon and Masan; or is it the sum of rides on Gyeongjeon KTX trains (including those passengers who got on and off the trains between Seoul and Miryang)?
 * How far back into the past is the data available? (Does it go back to the launch of KTX in 2004?)
 * Can you download the data in .csv or .xls format, ar at least as text?

Second, if KTDB has more precise and detailed numbers than the previous sources I used, I would like to use it to redo the entire KTX ridership diagram, not just the years 2009-2011 (and maybe with quartal or month rather than year resolution). Hence, if there is a simple way to do it, I would like to ask you to download a table with the ridership numbers for each KTX line and for each month. If that is possible, you could upload it to Google Docs or some similar place. --11:41, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


 * You also offered to give data for each station if requested. The one that I think is of particular interest is Gwangmyeong Station (see what is there currently in the Operation section). --Rontombontom (talk) 11:52, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


 * One data for each month.
 * There are some styles of raw datas, but they have station-to-station datas by rail line and train service basically. Like this(of course written in Korean):
 * {| class="wikitable"

! Rail line !! Train service !! Departure !! Arrival !! Ridership
 * Gyeongbu Line || KTX || Seoul || Yeongdeungpo || 10
 * Gyeongbu Line || KTX || Seoul || Suwon || 1014
 * Gyeongbu Line || KTX || Seoul || Daejeon || 150924
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * Gyeongbu Line || Mugunghwa || Suwon || Daejeon || 22021
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * Gyeongjeon Line || KTX || Seoul || Dongdaegu || 8681
 * Gyeongjeon Line || KTX || Seoul || Miryang || 3118
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * Gyeongjeon Line || KTX || Daejeon || Changwonjungang || 2374
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * }
 * I ask just to be absolutely certain: so when there is "Gyeongjeon Line" in the first column, it means the train service; that is, there are separate numbers for trips on Gyeongbu KTX and Gyeongjeon KTX trains like below? --Rontombontom (talk) 10:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * {| class="wikitable"
 * Gyeongjeon Line || KTX || Seoul || Miryang || 3118
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * Gyeongjeon Line || KTX || Daejeon || Changwonjungang || 2374
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * }
 * I ask just to be absolutely certain: so when there is "Gyeongjeon Line" in the first column, it means the train service; that is, there are separate numbers for trips on Gyeongbu KTX and Gyeongjeon KTX trains like below? --Rontombontom (talk) 10:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * {| class="wikitable"
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * }
 * I ask just to be absolutely certain: so when there is "Gyeongjeon Line" in the first column, it means the train service; that is, there are separate numbers for trips on Gyeongbu KTX and Gyeongjeon KTX trains like below? --Rontombontom (talk) 10:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * {| class="wikitable"
 * {| class="wikitable"

! Rail line !! Train service !! Departure !! Arrival !! Ridership
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * Gyeongbu Line || KTX || Seoul || Dongdaegu || 109787
 * Gyeongjeon Line || KTX || Seoul || Dongdaegu || 8681
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * Gyeongbu Line || KTX || Seoul || Miryang || 46113
 * Gyeongjeon Line || KTX || Seoul || Miryang || 3118
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * }
 * That's it. Like this, for example, "Gwangmyeong - Cheonan·Asan" are seperated as Gyeongbu Line KTX and Honam Line KTX. - Chugun (talk) 12:44, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Gyeongbu Line || KTX || Seoul || Miryang || 46113
 * Gyeongjeon Line || KTX || Seoul || Miryang || 3118
 * colspan="5" | ...
 * }
 * That's it. Like this, for example, "Gwangmyeong - Cheonan·Asan" are seperated as Gyeongbu Line KTX and Honam Line KTX. - Chugun (talk) 12:44, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * }
 * That's it. Like this, for example, "Gwangmyeong - Cheonan·Asan" are seperated as Gyeongbu Line KTX and Honam Line KTX. - Chugun (talk) 12:44, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That's it. Like this, for example, "Gwangmyeong - Cheonan·Asan" are seperated as Gyeongbu Line KTX and Honam Line KTX. - Chugun (talk) 12:44, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Like this↑. As I mentioned I calculated from this.
 * from 2001. But the style of raw datas seems different. For example, raw datas in 2004/4, there are only station code, not name, but raw datas in 2007/4, there are only station name.
 * I have .xls datas but I can't upload raw datas(not processed ridership info) to Google Docs because they are too big.


 * OK, I will make the ridership numbers for each KTX lines, each months, and each stations. If I finish, I will contact to you :-) - Chugun (talk) 14:57, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Huh, sounds like a lot of work – I am very grateful that you are willing to do it! Thank you in advance! --Rontombontom (talk) 10:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

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