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Your submission at Articles for creation: George Kent Ltd (November 29)
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SL93 (talk) 00:49, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

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"Barbarians (2021 film)" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Barbarians (2021 film). The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 12 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Narky Blert (talk) 08:37, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks so very much for the courtesy of this notification. I've replied - it's no biggie, so if this gets deleted it's all OK. Chumpih. (talk) 10:48, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

January 2021: Aberystwyth
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Aberystwyth, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I am not sure what you are trying to achieve here. The content is, of course, poor, but this information requires secondary sourcing. There is nothing "robust" about the link. You can discuss that all you like, but in the meantime we should not have improperly verified material in here. Your standard for inclusion seems to be "if it's mentioned it's OK", but that is impossible. Imagine applying that rule to Wales, and including every single mention of it. Please stop this silliness, and please see the Manual of Style on how to do section headings: see MOS:SECTIONS. Drmies (talk) 01:49, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your contribution. I've reverted as per reasons stated in the history.  To clear up "what [I'm] trying to achieve here": I'm not the first user who has come across this reference - see  Talk:Aberystwyth for another user who would have benefited from the content that you're attempting to delete. Consequently, it's arguably a valid inclusion.  You state "There is nothing 'robust' about the link", please can you explain why you think this is the case?  Verification is easy, as per the original citation, and indeed the additional citation in the edit history. I totally agree WP:V is beyond dispute, and I thank you for previously stating that.  Primary sources are acceptable according to WP:PRIMARY, and to elucidate: there's no interpretation going on here, just a factual transliteration.  Thanks also for your comments re. MOS:SECTIONS - I'll consider these when relevant.  But overall User:Drmies, may I be so bold as to suggest such deleterious, purgatory intents may be directed towards the words on "Meaning of Liff" and "A String in the Harp"? Chumpih (talk) 21:16, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * This is beyond stupid. I don't know if it's out of ignorance or obstinacy, but you keep on violating the MOS in these silly reverts, which are just POINTy. The MOS is always relevant. Drmies (talk) 21:32, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your comments. Are there any specific areas for improvement you can suggest?  Agree: WP:MOS is the authoritative and binding, and for sure I need to study more.  Thanks again.  Chumpih (talk) 21:46, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The links for the MOS on section titles was given above. The first letter is a capital, the rest is not, unless there's a proper name. But I have started a talk page discussion on that material of yours. Goodbye. Drmies (talk) 21:55, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Most appreciated. Thank you.Chumpih (talk) 22:51, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Export control
I explained why I undid it. WP:BRD does not mean that you restore a contested edit, open a discussion somewhere else under a misleading header, and suggest that I need to follow BRD by participating.

I commented there. Your 3RR warning is completed inappropriate. I have not broken 3RR, it was not in a 24 hour period, I justified my edits, and I restored a contested edit ot the staus quo while it is under discussion. Meters (talk) 20:11, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Reply over at Talk:Meters Chumpih. (talk) 20:32, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Third opinion
Thank you for providing a third opinion on the discussion of Paradise, AZ. This is an obscure topic, so only two editors were involved; having your opion added was valuable. I will follow your advice and search for a supporting secondary source. 16:19, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You are totally welcome. I genuinely hoped the opinion was useful, but do please treat it in the spirit intended - it's just opinion and by no means binding.  By the way, I had no idea such ghost towns were a thing, so I thank you for that.  All the best! Chumpih. (talk) 16:28, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Marc Canham (Musician) (April 22)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Marc Canham (Musician) (April 23)
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AfC notification: Draft:Marc Canham (composer) has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Marc Canham (composer). Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 00:25, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Reverted, I'm sorry to say. Chumpih. (talk) 00:54, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

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May 2021
Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Idiocracy, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. hulmem (talk) 23:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * There's no synthesis or OR there, and it's in accordance with WP:Primary. But WP:BRD, so we can continue on Talk:Idiocracy Chumpih. (talk) 05:24, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

MOS for album titles and song titles
Greetings, Chumpih. About this, the Wikipedia Manual of Style says to put album titles in italics and song titles in quotation marks. You can see that at MOS:TITLE. No biggie though. Edited to add: If you look at other articles about musicians, you'll see that this convention is generally followed. — Mudwater (Talk) 10:39, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Tweaked accordingly.  Chumpih. (talk) 10:56, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Jimmy Jewell
Hi Chumpih, per WP:INTDABLINK, intentional links to disambiguation should use the "(disambiguation)" link, even if that's a redirect. That is why I changed James Jewell to James Jewell (disambiguation). I haven't reverted your edit because I don't want to get into an edit war. Leschnei (talk) 01:16, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks  for the explanation here.  I'll restore.  Chumpih. (talk) 05:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Leschnei (talk) 12:11, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Village or not
If you are really worried, a former ambassador of USA to Turkmenistan—who won an award for mapping Turkmenistan and went on to serve as the chairperson of the OSM Foundation BoD—has noted the place to be a village (under Magtymguly etraby, Balkan welayaty) based on ground-level imagery and site visit in 2018. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:39, 22 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Very nice. Chumpih. (talk) 18:49, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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Tricky RfDs and relisting
Hi! Given that you participated in the page's recent RfD, I'm inviting you to comment in a proposal on its talk page: Talk:Communist holocaust.

Incidentally, while compiling a list of editors to notify, I noticed that you had participated in the discussion with an explicit recommendation, and some time later you relisted it. That was evidently done in good faith, but it may be worth it to know that as a general rule of thumb, it's strongly advised that people don't take administrative actions on discussions in which they have already taken part (WP:INVOLVED). This includes relisting (you can have a look at Relist bias for how the thinking goes). – Uanfala (talk) 01:21, 3 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks, a fair point, and thanks again. Chumpih  t 08:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Checking for copyvio
Hi! I've just deleted International E-Waste Day, which you accepted from draft, because essentially every word of it was copied from its own or other websites. If you ran it through Earwig before accepting it you should have seen that – did you perhaps forget that crucial step? Anyway, please make sure that you do it as a matter of course before accepting any further drafts, and also – if you would kindly? – recheck all drafts you've already accepted in the same way. If you run into any problems I'm happy to help clean them up in one way or another (just ping me here). Thanks for your work at AfC, btw. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:19, 5 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up.  I've done as you suggested, and all other pages I've accepted appear 'Unlikely' according to Earwig.   Chumpih  t 15:24, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, thank you, much appreciated. The trick with Earwig is to not pay too much attention to that overall evaluation, but instead look at what text is highlighted in red in the left panel – if it's just job titles, proper names of places or institutions, or titles of publications there can be a quite high "probability" but no cause for alarm; if it's running text, even a little, we should remove or rewrite it. I've made some changes to Elio Villafranca, partly for that reason. If you'll allow me to give another bit of completely unsolicited advice: if a page has been draftified by an experienced reviewer, it may be best to leave it for another such reviewer to evaluate. As I'm sure you know, properly-disclosed COI – and even paid – editing is tolerated in draft space (please don't ask me why!), but undisclosed paid editing is not allowed anywhere, ever; sadly, not every editor in draft space can be trusted to tell the truth either. Thanks for your good work, regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * These insights are much appreciated. I didn't see much beyond coincidence with the matching phrases in Elio Villafranca, but for sure a reduction in risk is worthwhile. I'll also keep an eye out for WP:COI in future also.  Thanks again.  Chumpih  t 21:48, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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New Indian Express
You describe this as an unreliable source at Draft:Vijay Varadharaj. It is not listed at WP:RSP. It is mentioned at WP:NPPSG but not as clearly unreliable. ~Kvng (talk) 23:09, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Indeed, the comment at the time was "NIE doesn't appear to be a reliable source", and the request made was for better sources to support the notability of the subject. Chumpih  t 05:19, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Charles Ernest Riddiford (Cartographer)


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Dates on Lapsus$
Hey. I'm confused why you've twice now reverted the date unification I've done. On the article was tagged with the maintenance template use dmy dates, which per the template documentation is designed to promote a consistent date format within the article. The only alternative template is use mdy dates, there is no "use ymd dates" or "use iso 8601 dates". This is in line with MOS:DATEFORMAT which quite clearly excludes general use of YMD dates in articles. Per MOS:DATEUNIFY any dates in citations should primarily be in the format used for publication dates in the article, which in this case is the DMY format, and that they should all be consistent, i.e. all access and archive dates should be in the same format. After your undo of the date unification, there are three distinct date formats in use in the citations, with some citations having different date formats for their access, publication, and archive dates.

You also said in your edit summary that The ISO 8601 date style for access dates is the accepted citation style for the article. Can you please point out where that consensus was determined? I've checked the article's talk page, where there has only ever been a single discussion which was not on the date format to use. The article was quite clearly tagged shortly after its creation with the use dmy dates template, which indicates that DMY dates are the accepted citation style for the article. Sideswipe9th (talk) 21:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Of the 31 citations in the article:
 * 13 use exclusively DMY dates
 * 1 use exclusively MDY dates
 * 4 use exclusively ISO 8601 dates
 * 12 use DMY and ISO 8601 dates
 * 1 use MDY and ISO 8601 dates
 * Sideswipe9th (talk) 21:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I take your point. It would be reasonable to harmonise, and as you state, the tag is already in place for DMY.  Re. 'accepted', 8601 was there for the original retrieval dates, and despite the tag, was not altered (until recently).  So perhaps it's no longer accepted.  If you wish to harmonise the dates, I'll not revert.  Thanks for the message here, and apologies for my clumsy revisions.  Chumpih  t 04:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

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 * Most appreciated. Thanks ever so.  Chumpih  t 23:32, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

November 2022
Hello. Your recent edit to List of hacker groups appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. ''There is an explicit edit message in this article saying that all entries must have a Wikipedia article. WP:WTAF'' Meters (talk) 00:17, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hmm, notability for Opera1er is likely. WP:WTAF is just an essay, q.v. WP:CSC.  But you're right, there is a note on the page.  Chumpih  t 00:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

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