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Italian Esperanto Federation moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Italian Esperanto Federation, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Italian Esperanto Federation
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Your draft article, Draft:Italian Esperanto Federation


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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! CptViraj (talk) 17:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Italian Esperanto Federation (November 27)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Italian Esperanto Federation (November 28)
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 LJF2019    talk   10:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Italian Esperanto Federation has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Italian Esperanto Federation. Thanks! Salimfadhley (talk) 10:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Esperanto
Ciao, ti scrivo qui perché secondo me il problema generale della bozza è un altro: la voce non parla minimamente della società, ma solo delle sue attività e, messa così, sembra più un volantino pubblicitario. Inoltre, c'è un grosso problema: l'unica fonte del DPR sembra essere il sito stesso, nemmeno in Gazzetta ufficiale trovo qualche riscontro su quel DPR.-- Mannivu (talk) 11:46, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

1) la società è l'insieme dei suoi organi, soci e delle sue attività. Non credo che la sua struttura gerarchica sia né interessante né enciclopedico e men che meno il suo elenco soci. Cosa rimane?

2) un volantino pubblicitario è scritto esattamente al contrario: non elenca le attività della società ma elenca le sue "qualità" senza dati oggettivi.

3) la fonte del DPR è unica: la gazzetta ufficiale. Io che ho fatto la ricerca sul motore della gazzetta per la prima volta nella mia vita per controllare questo documento l'ho trovata al primo colpo. Non so che dire.

--Ciampix (talk) 12:00, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

June 2022 - Italian Esperanto Federation
I've seen you on the IRC channel #wikipedia-en-help and had posted some comments there, but it's unclear if you'll see them.

Earlier, you were in the channel asking about Draft:Italian Esperanto Federation and I see that it is still awaiting another review. Lately, you've been joining the channel, but not asking any questions.

On Wikipedia, we kind of outsource the determination of whether an organization merits an article to independent reporters (WP:NOTABILITY). Unless they write about a subject, we consider it impossible for there to be an article about that subject. Nearly all of the links and sources cited by your draft don't meet the criteria of independent and in-depth. After the draft has received a couple of reviews stating this deficiency, reviewers start to be reluctant to decline saying the same thing again. It then starts to feel to you like your draft is being ignored.

If you are still interested in an article about the FEI, it may be necessary for you to go back to the beginning, abandoning the text you've currently written until you can find some of these independent, in-depth sources. Start over on the draft by summarizing what only these sources say. All the other things you clearly want to say about the organization should wait and can perhaps be added, with sources, after you have an accepted article.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 04:30, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Italian Esperanto Federation (August 1)
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Theroadislong (talk) 16:59, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

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